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AOC wants to take our money and spend on what she wants. But then she gets a $300 haircut? Liberals are such hypocrites
@Rissyanne Cat got your tongues when it comes to Trump?
@SoterisIts called hypocrisy. Her luxury lifestyle is made possible by Capitalism. She wants to tax the rich yet wants to continue her lavish lifestyle. Others are also entitled to their hard earned income.
@Oram52 what the fuck are you talking about
@Oram52 She is advocating for a mixed economy which also includes capitalism. Where is the hypocrisy?
No she wants socialism. She wants the redistribution of wealth... except for herself.
@Rissyanne No. Just no.
You don’t know what you’re talking about any way. You’re not American
@Rissyanne Exactly, I am Swedish and unlike USA which is Capitalistic we have a mixed economy which means I am far more qualified on mixed economies than you will ever be according to your own stupid logic.
"I'm Swedish."That explains a lot, lmao.
Honestly that reply says a lot more about you than it does about me.
It is not hard to comprehend that different nations have different definitions of different political labels. Is it? Regardless, someone who spends so much money on hair, something that should only be like 50 bucks at most, while telling people like me I should pay for everyone else's way (foreign invaders included,) is just asinine. She appeals to nothing but emotion. Not logic, but emotion. This is why she's far left.
You know Greta Thunberg or whatever the hell her name is? Or how about Leonardo Dicaprio?Why do they preach climate change but fly around on private jets, use yachts, etc? Why can't we use those things but they, the elite in their minds, can?
Actually its very difficult to believe that different countries have different definitions of political labels simply because political ideologies are based in very rigidly defined philosophies.As for your beliefs in hypocrisy.. well you are simply wrong. AOC might have a lot of opinions about how to spend public money but she says nothing about how you use your private money. You could blow it all on bubblegum for all she cares.As for Greta Thunberg using various forms of transportation, not only is there a cost/benefit calculation to be done here but greenhouse gas emissions from private vehicles and airplanes is not the foundational problem here and is just a bonus if we can solve it.
Did you know there's actually liberals in America, calling themselves "progressives," who believe conservatives are liberal? Half the people in this country are borderline retarded and shouldn't be voting, lol. "It's not about private money it's about public money." May be so. But if you tax the crap out of everyone regardless of income, it's theft. Excessive taxation is theft. Our government wastes a ton of money as is, ESPECIALLY in my state, Illinois. What we need is less taxes and less spending. As for the transportation thing; one trip in a private jet uses what, thousands of gallons of gasoline? Just guessing. They should use the public airlines just as everyone else if they care so much about emissions. Should also attack India and China more as they do much more damage than America or Europe.
I have to go to work now, but look forward to seeing your response later m8.
She wants socialism. That means taxing heavily.
Of course people attempt to misuse labels all the time, but that is just the thing.. its misuse because it means something else. Saying its simply "different in America" is wrong.Taxation can also never be theft. It can be cruel and evil but never theft. In essence the country has the right to take whatever it wants from you as everything you own you only own through being allowed to by the country. The country has the ultimate ownership and if your house is in the way of a road or something they will make you very well aware of that. Of course the government usually gives adequate compensation when forcefully taking something from you but its worth remembering that it is by no means required.As for private flight it uses about 247 gallons per hour of jet fuel which results in 2.3 tonnes of CO2. During this hour the private jet would travel 527 miles. Its not ideal but its not the end of the world either, especially if you offset the impact by doing something else kind of like if you cut down a tree you contribute to deforestation but on the other side you planted two new trees so the net result is you contributed an extra tree instead. Many airports have these projects going to offset the carbon dioxide they release and considering Greta Thunberg is actively working to fight climate change she is doing more then enough to justify flying.Lastly China is actually doing a lot to combat climate change. Dont get me wrong this has nothing to do with saving the planet but their national interests to capitalize on the new energy market which is why basically all solar panels are made and used in China. They are planning to get even richer out of climate change.
@Rissyanne No it does not. Learn some political philosophy will you.
@Rissyanne Yes playing so innocent. I mean exactly what I said. Where is your hypocrisy when it comes to ignorant person like Trump?
She is going way beyond what Sweden has. Her spending actually amounts to $40 trillion while even with super heavy taxes she can only account for $2 trillion, leaving deficit of $38 trillion.
@Oram52 you’re just an idiot
"Taxation can *never* be theft"I can't say I agree. If you're taxed for 100% of your earnings (unrealistic I know,) that's not theft? You'd just give up everything you've earned because the government tells you to? I'm not a fan of big government. I'm not a fan of higher taxes. I don't make a whole lotta money, but the government of my state taxes me as if I do, it's frigging ridiculous. Absolutely asinine. "The country has ultimate ownership," Uhhhh...… no, lol. I own my guitar, car, guns, etc. The government has absolutely no right to come and take any of those things from me, ever. Also, didn't know China was making changes. Not surprised they are if there's money to be made. I don't like China, but if there's one thing they're good at it's business. Still, that leaves India, I don't know the stats but I know for a fact they do more than 5 times the damage we could do even if we actively tried in the same amount of time.
@Rissyanne "you’re just an idiot "Compared to your Messiah Trump I'm a genius!!Even a chimp has higher IQ than Trump.
@Oram52 you’re no genius. You are an idiot
@WewladdyIt is quite important to remember that the only reason you have private property is that the government protects your right to own it, in this case through the law. This is ownership that the government hands you and if someone questions your ownership of it they ask the government who then decides. This is because the government is actually the official owner of basically everything inside the country. Private ownership is just a way for it to maintain the economy for its own benefit but nothing says they can't just take everything at any given time.Taxes is one of those cases where they exercise their right of true ownership. As such they can't steal something that was theirs all along and continue to be theirs afterwards. 100% taxes is actually less crazy than it seams, Communism for example was sort of built on this idea. Obviously 100% taxes within what you consider "normal capitalism" would not work as well but that is because its not used in a context that takes it into consideration. Technically speaking a company taxes your work 100% and then gives you a wage out of the money you have earned for the company, a government could easily do the same.As for India they have a lot more people than the US and is very early in their development. Strictly speaking they can't afford to lower pollution in the same way as USA can and USA is also pollution more per person last I checked.
I have a deed with my name on it. It says I own 45 acres.
@SoterisI don't think you really grasp what communist dictatorship was like or collapse of communism and financial state of it. Government does NOT own our property that's why its called PRIVATE property. That's why state exists to begin with, to protect Life, Liberty and Property. State does NOT own it, its arbitrary. State does NOT have the right to tax 100%, that's why people rebel. When kings tried to extort too many taxes tax collectors were hanged. Taxes are private property. Government does NOT own our wages, government doesn't pay those wages. People earn them, and are fully entitled to them. With taxes government is NOT exercises true ownership, otherwise private property would not exist. People need police force for example and judiciary. People then agree to hand over taxes so they can be protected and their is rule of law. If government had such right we'd call it fascism.
@Rissyanne That deed is guaranteed by the US government. If the US government does not support your claim its just a worthless piece of paper and the whims of a government is flighty.
@Oram52 You are just plain wrong. You should look into the philosophy behind ownership.
Oh yeah then why am I selling it and getting the money for it? You’re just jealous because your socialist country won’t allow you to own land. You’re probably to ignorant to own it.!
@Rissyanne You are pretty retarded aren't you? The US dollar is a fiat currency, very similar to your deed. Do you think that dollar would be worth anything if USA came out and flat out said they are no longer guaranteeing the value of the dollar?
You are the retarded one. I’m selling my land and getting a good price. You’re just jealous because you are a lazy piece of shit that lives off the government
@Rissyanne Do you ever become embarrassed for being so uneducated?
I have looked at the philosophy of ownership. That's why commies wanted to dismantle it. You have provided no counter arguments. Capitalism in some form has always existed, exchanging goods for goods, paying with salt or gold, then currency. Laws have always existed to protected property rights. Modern democracies exist exactly on this premise that at primary level state exists to protect life, liberty and property. Otherwise there would be no need for state. that's why it was called necessary evil.
@Oram52 "Destroy" eh? That is the completely wrong way to see it for the simple reason that while capitalism exists it is only a bandaid over the actual status-quo, a film of civility of you so wish. It only works so long as the government agrees it will work, there is nothing inherently compulsory about it.The idea of ownership also does not extend beyond your country either. Your country is the source of your ownership and to move something from one country to another you need to export the right of that item to the other country which in turn means they own it now.But again, this charade only continues for as long as the country plays along, because that is what it is.. playing along. When the government does not want to play along anymore this happens:en.wikipedia.org/.../Internment_of_Japanese_AmericansOr any other historical example of the government using its actual power and influence over people and everything they own. You are living a sweet dream right now and very comfortable with your ideas of what is right and wrong but there is a world outside your dreams and its far more cold and unforgiving.Also Capitalism is by no means the end-all-be-all of economic systems. There has been uncountable ones before it and there will be uncountable ones after it. There is nothing particularly special about capitalism itself, its simply one of the most prominent ones today.
And which system has prosperity brought by capitalism? Socialism was catastrophic failure, that's why countries including Sweden moved to Social Democracies, where so called welfare state is embedded and dependent on "CAPITALIST" system. Capitalism brought 400 million people out of poverty in China. At the moment there is only ONE functioning economical system - Capitalism, and that's how it always will be. Capitalism is the only system that allows an individual to pursue their own goals. Communism collapsed miserably. Government is necessary evil I just mentioned that. State is there to protect life, liberty and property. If it wasn't the case we could simply do without any state, but without it there is chaos. Even before states emerged there were tribal system to ensure private property in not trampled on. So state/government is necessary evil. State doesn't determine property, individuals do. State is merely there to ensure individual rights are respected. That's why we have police and judiciary.What happened to Japanese Americans was reprehensible no one denies that, and it is condemned. That's what happens when you violate individual rights. Now compared that to evil of communism, half of Europe was under evil dictatorships, every communist regime is a dictatorship. Millions killed by Pol Pot, Mao and Stalin. Where exactly was this utopia?All this progress you see today, new inventions, ingenuity is because of Capitalism. Sweden progressed because of Capitalism. Name one country in the world which thrived on completely socialist system? Free Market Capitalism is the only way, as that is the only system that empowers the individual to pursue their economic goals. No matter what system no matter what shape capitalism takes - successful economical systems will always be capitalists with minimum government intervention. Those are the only systems that will empower the individual.
You are the one who should be so embarrassed for being so jealous. You will never own land like I do
@Oram52 Its actually the other way around, Sweden used to be a capitalistic country but seeing the limitations and problems of capitalism it decided to combine the best parts of capitalism and socialism into a mixed economy. As such its not capitalism that is supporting socialism in Sweden but socialism that is supporting capitalism and making it work better.Ironically one of the main problems of Capitalism that socialism fixes is the lack of social mobility AKA the inability to "chase your dreams". Also just because a country failed to implement Communism does not mean it can't be done.A final note on Capitalism is that no matter how dysfunctional it already is we are reaching the objective end of capitalism anyways. With the rapid development of automation humans will be replaced in the workforce to such a degree that a large percentage of the population will not be able to find employment. If people do not have jobs then capitalism as a system collapses, there is no solution for this problem within capitalism except for preventing companies from automating in the first place, something which is highly regressive.Back to the question of ownership. If you ask Mexico who owns Rissyanne's land they will say USA. If USA as a state did not exist then Mexico would say "no one owns that land" and rush to take it for their own. Individual property rights does not inherently exist unless Rissyanne can "convince" Mexico to take her claim of ownership seriously.. such as hiring an army.. Having a private army that is a match for a state army is very rare in history however so you can basically give up on the idea of private ownership.After Mexico takes her land they will then hand that out to others to develop and live on in the name of Mexico.
You are... insane
It's her money to spend as she pleases but she shames people for spending their own money on airline flights and cheeseburgers? That's more of that millenial leftist hypocrisy.
@ronaldo75 You're an idiot. Well done.
And yet I'm write. She's put her foot in her mouth on a weekly basis for 9 months now. It's sickening. -She's against gentrification but moved to a High-Rise luxury apartment that's currently in court on accusations of pushing out low income residents-She wants to ban air travel and waste but then plans a luxury trip to Denmark to do NOTHING but meet with local mayors-She wants to ban beef but doesn't hesitate to post pictures of her and her boyfriend eating 20 dollar burgers in a high end restaurant.-She campaigns during the election against high congressional salaries, gets elected, then says her $194k salary isn't enough. -She says she's a fierce warrior bla bla bla and that her age isn't a factor, then gets drunk on livestream and basically says yeah she's young and stupid but she still has 4 years. -She makes a bunch of racist comments against whites and white men, but has history of dating white men and is currently living a beta white male.-Wants to restrict car travel but hires an EIGHT VEHICLE SUV CARAVAN to drive her less than 10 blocks using campaign fundsOn and on...
I'm right*...100% RIGHT buddy. Here in NYC most people hate her.
@ronaldo75 Friend... you aren't "write" about anything. At all. In any way, shape, or form. Sean Hannity isn't a fucking moron and a clown because he wears expensive suits-- he's a fucking moron and a clown because he says things that are stupid and not based in reality or fact. AOC getting expensive haircuts has literally nothing to do with any questions she asks or any legislation she tries to propose. As I already posted earlier, that is an ad hominem logical fallacy-- if you don't know what that is, then click on the link and start reading. Assuming that you can read.
"Sean Hannity isn't a fucking moron and a clown because he wears expensive suits" - Sean Hannity? He has what to do with him? I'm not a fan of his nor did I mention him.
@ronaldo75 You didn't have to-- I'm pointing out that an ad hominem fallacy is an ad hominem fallacy, and that using an ad hominem fallacy is stupid. I picked Sean Hannity because I knew that you would know who he is. The point is that it doesn't matter who it's about. If you're going to criticize someone's ideas, then criticize their ideas. And do so with fact, logic, and actual objective evidence. You aren't doing that, and neither is @Wewladdy. It's stupid. AOC's haircuts don't have anything to do with her assertions that climate change is real, catastrophic, and needs desperate action in order to be stopped. They aren't related in any way, nor is the (incorrect) assertion that she's a "horseface." You're both fucking idiots.
Christ you make no sense...
@ronaldo75 Oh honey. Christ has nothing to do with your ignorance, or this conversation.
Boiling away all the snide insults and bullshit - the point is you ignore AOC's hipocrisy.
My past 3 girlfriends, a Cuban, A Dominican and a Colombian have ALL been prettier than AOC and weren't built like 12 year old boys.
@ronaldo75 ofc ofc Lol
What does this marriage status have to do with anything?
@ronaldo75 Oh, because when I was married and you know like in relationship with women. I paid for trips to the beauty salon.One day you guys will experience it.Maybe. . .
No just hypocrites.
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