That's very true that a lot of people end up in foreign prisons for that reason! There have been quite a few movies about that. And I'm sure even more people who went through that in real life. It's very overwhelming to try to learn every law for every country that a person goes to. But it's definitely worth the time to at least try to know as much of it as possible if it could keep someone out of jail!
"Those laws are to apply EQUALLY to everyone and anyone; within a particular geographical area (country, state, province, municipality etc.)For exampleWell, in several cities in the nation it's illegal to spit on the ground in public. But people from the city right next door have no idea because it's an antiquated law. Assuming they get caught and punished, is it fair?Look at any city in the US with some messed up law nobody outside of the city or state knows about, and they get caught doing something that's fully legal when they live, should it really apply to them?In one country you can get Caned for breaking ridiculous laws that nobody in the right mind would think you would get in trouble for. Is that fair?I believe my questions is what she's getting at. Of course my last one, traveling outside of your own country you'd maybe look up a few laws to make sure nothing bad happens to you, but who goes to each city and read each cities laws to make sure they don't break them?
Very good point!
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That's a genius-level idea!
But wouldn't it be dangerous to live in a society that had no rules? There would be much more crime, right?
Probably. But to me “entitlement” starts with the big picture, not all the little stuff people complain about within the microcosm of human society as we know it. We are in no way entitled to health, safety, comfort, happiness, prosperity... that’s all something we’ve created (in my mind, faultily) because we’re uncomfortable and scared of harsh realities of existence on earth. I don’t see any reason why literally every other organism lives under one set of natural rules, but humans should live under their own unnatural ones. The logic isn’t there, that doesn’t add up. We just try to fabricate an existence to stave off those harsh realities because they frighten us or make us uncomfortable, but it’s completely invalid and outside of the boundaries of intended nature. I’m not a believer in the idea that earth is first and foremost the home of humans, and then everything else just lives here. I haven’t seen anything in 40 years of being alive that would substantiate that idea.
Those are interesting ideas. I get what you mean. And personally, I sometimes feel like the only people who suffer from laws are the good people, since they're the only ones that try to follow them. Criminals are only affected by the concept of laws if they happen to get caught and punished. But good people are affected by laws constantly because they stress about trying to follow the thousands of laws that are in place during their day-to-day life.I don't know if you're religious or not, but I'm pretty sure the idea of having laws comes from instructions we received in the bible.
But do you think a person should be fined for something they didn't know about?
Eh. If it truly inconvenienced someone, sure. Otherwise that's what warnings for first time offenses are for.
But do you personally agree with that or think it:s fair? I'm just wondering what people's opinions are about ignorance not being an excuse. Do you think it should be an excuse?
No, it cannot be the law. Otherwise everyone would say that every time. To survive in a civilized society there are certain things that we all have to agree to , and one of those is that we will abide by the rules, or laws. That means you have to know what they are, it’s your implied obligation.