I agree with what you're saying. About the dating standards, I wouldn't focus on the women who are particular about men (like wanting a certain height). They're likely not what you want anyway (the exception is tall women).The lack of communication and different communication styles? A big one that is completely important. It's interesting to see these different "pressures" that men feel---some I would never have thought about. Thanks!
No problem. I agree that communication is a big one. Also, people need to learn to compromise, that they will not always get everything they want and that not getting what you want does not always mean a relationship is failing. I believe both men and women are guilty of this.
That’s great! But studies show that single parent households are detrimental to a child’s development. The reasons why single fathers are marginally better is because they are likely to have more income and have a live in partner that resembles a two parent household.Still I understand. Thanks!
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It's so much pressure that in many species, males go as far as to kill each other just for a chance to mate. Humans aren't that different from other beasts, unfortunately.
If I win by miraculous odds I hump girl leg and pee on their face. This is a very unlikely scenario though.
I understand what he did and some women are okay with it. For me, I would defend myself but if he doesn’t back me up, then to me he’s worthless. What if something or someone threatened our family (that I’m not going to have but still...)? I can’t respect a man (or anyone really) that doesn’t fight for the one he loves. If he doesn’t fight for her, to me it means he doesn’t care for her as much as he does for himself. He shouldn’t be in a relationship (and this works conversely as well).
Dude, if you got killed and then your bitch gets raped, you are not the winner. You lost everything. You can't lose any more than that.
@OfDeath From my standpoint, my sense of right and wrong isn't always tied to the outcome. It's more internal, factoring in the decisions we could make. And it's not always wise. If you tie it to outcome though, abandoning her at that moment probably maximizes the likelihood of the worst possible outcome for her. A wiser approach might be to call the police, or call the police and then intervene. I'm a bit headstrong in these circumstances though. I get an adrenaline rush and then the choices boil down to black and white: try to help or flee, right vs. wrong, and it's difficult for me to pause and think of grey areas -- sometimes the wisest -- in that rush of adrenaline.>> For me, I would defend myself but if he doesn’t back me up, then to me he’s worthless.On the general question, I think it's right to protect and provide for those we care about. I would hope a woman does that for her child at least, for example. It is not necessarily a gender issue for me. Ideally, we all build up the capability (mentally above all else) to protect and provide for those we care about when the circumstances call for it.
Lol. What are these unrealistic standards? Most women would want an attractive man with a great personality who is doing something with his life. It doesn’t mean six figures or him being a model.Where are you guys getting any information like that?
Me personally haven't seen those unrealistic standards myself. However my intuition tells me that if a man is rich, then women start raining his direction 🤔🤔I heard some girls classifying "a man, who doesn't cheat" as seemingly something, that's too much to ask from us men and for me it's something that i already tick 😀😆 Nothing wrong with wanting a kind, faithful, attractive man, who's making his own living.On the contrary i see guys, who are racist college dropouts and are vaping getting a girlfriend 3 years ago and I'm still here like "really girls? 😂" 🤔🤔🤔
I've only dipped my toes into statistics, but I am interested in the idea that information about averages cannot logically be applied to the individual.In ergonomics, some call this the "jaggedness principle." Design a plane cockpit that is perfect for the average person, and everyone who tries it will have a problem, as they are not average in every proportion.
You're such a sad small person
Nah. I am a big, big man, son. Don’t be jealous. Just figure out how to become big too.
I'm 11 years younger than you and from past posts I'm assuming more masculine and at peace with myself. So... I'm a big boy.
@ronaldo75 No, you are not at peace with yourself. You are mad at the world because you are a failure.Find out how to become a winner dude. Your issues are not my fault. I don't know you from a turd.
You don't know me from a turd but you know I'm a failure who hates himself. Jesus fucking Christ you're entertaining...
@ronaldo75 Right, I am here to "entertain" you. I don't look for you. I don't know you. But you know me. And when I post, it seems to be pretty important to you. So that means you are a fake. . . and a loser. You know it and I know it.
aww damn I'm so jelly! I hope I can be so lucky someday...
I don’t agree about the latter.
WOmen say society pressures them but I just don't see it. I see the media and society telling women every two seconds that you're "Amazing, queens, warriors, unstoppable, can do anything, better than boys, girl power, powerful boss goddesses"... We're now even telling fat women that's they're healthy and beautiful and whoever doesn't agree is just a sexist little boy.
I wonder if that stems from the evolutionary perspective when our society was hunter/gatherers and men's roles were that of protection.
That Doesn’t necessarily mean she expects you to protect her could mean she trusts you won’t rape her.. that is what I mean when I say I feel safe. I mean I feel like he won’t harm me. Not that he will prevent outside harm. Just that he won’t be a source of it. Not will I. It’s equal.
A couple include large muscles that are no longer needed to protect in 1st world society, financial support that women are capable of providing for themselves
I disagree with the financial support because it is difficult to live on a single income in a two person household unless if you have a great wage. So financial compatibility is still something that is necessary.Large muscles I do agree with.
Aww... lolSome of your answers make me think of that insecure boy who was really upset that he couldn’t get a date because he didn’t have a high school diploma and worked at McDonalds (or he used it as an example).Anyway, what kind of pressures do you feel if you feel comfortable sharing? I promise I’ll refrain from deconstructing and invalidating it (I have an issue with this).
You know some of your replies remind me of those girls who like to talk the talk and can't walk the walk. Fortunately for me your criteria doesn't fit have dated many girls with many experiences and own two degrees actually. Not that any of it matters since most people can't complain about how bad women are when they really don't know them because they've never dated them or the fact that most people these days go hey wanna date? Sure. Not hey wanna date? Got a degree? No diploma. Sorry, I only date guys with degrees.But please do keep talking the talking I think you'll find deconstructing and invalidating my sentences pretty difficult when you can't seem to manage common sense yourself. 🤣
Lol. So sad. I was being genuine and wanted to know what pressures YOU felt.You clearly lack common sense (or reading comprehension) especially when I wasn’t insinuating anything about you. I said that your comment made me think of the boy (who admitted he was insecure) who thought he couldn’t get a date since he wasn’t successful enough for the women that he wanted to pursue. I said that he should go after him though he shouldn’t be upset if a more successful woman doesn’t desire him back.Reading your mess of English wasn’t difficult but I find it unfortunate that you have two degrees and can’t seem to type properly.So nothing to offer? That’s what it seems like. Again sad... lol
LOL, I know you were but the important question is why? Oh yes to use against us more than likely I'm not giving you any ammunition and it's none of your business. As if I would tell you our pressure so you know where to break men. lol sure I do because you just randomly comment on opinions about a boy who bears no relevancy to the question at hand your fooling no one. Ironically you say I can't comprehend sentences yet you missed the point entirely. When I stated common sense I was referring to the fact women don't date men based on qualifications nothing to do with who you were referring this story too. I mean reading your illogical delusion of reality wasn't difficult for me but you don't see me complaining about it just pointing out the hypocrisy of it. You're very bold to complain of my English which Grammarly itself has no issue with ROFL when I don't see a single comma in your sentences but please do go on. The classic English insults how original we all know who resorts to those because they've got no comeback game. Please do go on this is making my day. Oh no she blocked me nothing admits defeat better than a block.
Yikes that's some scathing class prejudice right there! There are plenty of redeeming qualities wa woman could see in an uneducated cashier at McDonald's.
Can’t blame women for not wanting to date a loser though. And it works out: those men don’t get into relationships.
So according to you and most other women; any guy who doesn't have a high paying job, a house, a car, a muscular fit body, high social status and can fight off the bad guys is a loser?
Is that what I said? Or is what should have been correctly inferred is that men who don’t stand up for their loved ones out of pure self-preservation/selfishness, who lacks stability in his life (doesn’t know what he wants to do), and essentially offers nothing to the relationship is worthless?He doesn’t have to have a high paying job. He just needs to be making money that is equal to what she’s making. Why wouldn’t he have a car? What woman wants to drive a man around unless if there is a reason he lacks a car? That is part of the stability, self sufficient bit.If he has high social status, he’s likely arrogant, ignorant, and prejudiced. So no. Not for most women I believe.I like muscular guys but many women want him to be NOT FAT. Just like men. Stop nitpicking and comparing yourself to the desires of what some women want.Be what you want. There are women who would want you.
Well when I see a lot of you women who pursue and chase the type of men I described you wonder why i mentioned it. Out in the real world like 9.5/10 times the type of guy i described is never single unless he chooses to be.
True, but I will also bet that plenty of them are with the wrong type of women. Just be who you want. Some women will like you. I just feel that many women choose men compared to the success that the woman has. I remember arguing with this guy on here who said that he wanted women to give him a chance even if he had not high school diploma and worked at McDonalds. The only women who would likely want him are women who have no high school education and work some kind of fast food/retail. Why would college educated women want someone like that?I don’t know if you can get where I’m coming from though.
Yeah I get where you're coming from. I just get frustrated when women seek guys who are clearly out their league (and yes I believe in leagues) obviously men do it too but women do this way more. I see it in real life and online. I always see women posting shit about how some football player likes them but they're some nerdy girl, or how some overweight girl has this tall lean athletic guy who wants them, or some broke girl being pursued by a doctor etc. And I'm sitting shaking my head like wow, must be nice to have quality or attractive people into you. I wish for myself and many men that could happen more but it doesn't.
Well actually what i just posted was men seeking women less accomplished than them but either way I see the opposite all the time.
I can’t argue with what you said. Leagues is subjective to me: I would think that what someone considers cute might be considered ugly to someone else. But I know what you’re saying. I also know that there are hot male chubby chasers and maybe they like that overweight girl or the dorky guy that is with a beautiful woman: maybe she genuinely loves him. Rare? Sure... lol. It’s all opinion though.In a way, I feel like we agree somewhat. Women want men who match them. Men don’t seem to care on the other hand unless if she’s hot.
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I wish. Maybe he wouldn’t be so ignorant towards them if he was.
I think a lot of men feel different pressures but plenty of them are the same
I wonder if this contributes to male depression: the fact that some feel like they aren’t good enough for women not only be side of societal standards but women’s desires.
@Anoniemus... In younger , more hormonally charged , and image conscious guys , yes , I remember that well. I either had a lot of female attention , or lengthy dry spells when younger. Women get consistent validation from both genders and plenty of male attention , which conversely , is often unwanted.