Now Schiff admits that Hunter Biden's Burisma deal looks questionable, which he doesn't realize is a tacit admission that Trump's actions were within his Article 2 authority.
You're ignorant. That's all I can say. Trump IS actually doing what a Soviet style republic DOES... you dolt !!!
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Does this mean that if a Democrat president withheld military aid to an ally that Congress had approved to pressure that ally into smearing a Republican opponent, you would be okay with it?
@4mazing You clearly did not follow the timeline, nor the statements from the Ukrainians. Joe Biden talking about threatening to withhold $1B in aid to force the firing of the prosecutor who just happned to be looking into Burisma, and thus Burisma Board members Hunter Biden and Romney aid Cofer Black. This is what triggered the request to look at it.www.realclearpolitics.com/.../...f_prosecutor.html
Blah blah blah... Since when have liberals cares about law. Just stop.
It's not about him being innocent or guilty, it's all up to what the congress decides and he wasn't gonna get impeached with GOP having more seats in the senate.
From what I have heard, he wasn't actually looking into Burisma. I'm not saying it's great that his son got a cushy job on Burisma's board with few apparent qualifications, but my impression is that the Bidens are being smeared.
@4mazing "from what I heard" is hearsay, which is exactly what the impeachment was based upon.
@JesseTheMan Except the intent was for "treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors." There was proposal to allow it for any reason, which was rejected because the Founders did not want a quasi-parliamentary system. If the current members of Congress had actually bothered reading the debates and the Federalist papers this joke impeachment would have never happened.
The congress can just say that he is guilty and that would be the case.
It isn't hearsay - it's corroborated testimony from multiple witnesses.
@4mazing You might want to surrender your Cracker Jack Box J. D. Third and fourth person hearsay is still hearsay. The only direct testimony was from the Ukrainian P. M. who said there was no pressure.
I don't believe it is realistic for me to convince you otherwise, but to my mind it is obvious that Trump and Giuliani were up to no good, and I also think it has been thoroughly corroborated by the investigation into it. But it is my impression that loyalty to Trump trumps a fair reading of events, and somehow he gets to do stuff others would not have gotten away with. I think it's a shame for America, and for the world, really, because America was arguably the birthplace of modern democracy.
Whether that’s true or not remains to be seen. What’s remarkable is that you apparently think that just by saying those things, makes it true. None of that is accepted fact. All of it is speculation, and not based on an6 real facts, otherwise you’d state the facts. All you’re doing is showing how gullible you are. 😂🤣😅
And words absolutely matter. Especially when they’re grouped in an assortment of various other non truths, because they reflect directly on the person speaking or writing them.
Lol this was so funny
@Girther10 Oh? You might want to check the current US Supreme Court docket for this term. If you know anything about SCOTUS precedents, then you'd know how they are going to rule... and that's not going to be good for Citizen Trump.
I stand by my original statement. All speculation at this point, scotus or not, nothing is as you claimed. Why should I check the docket- you made the statement, not me.
@Girther10OK so since you are due diligence impaired, I will:1) Trump v. Vance2) Trump v. Mazar 3) Trump v. Deutsche Bank AGand, for historical purposes which I can ut you some slack since this is before your birth but well in my memory, the unanimous...4) United States v. Nixon(more)
Trump v. Mazars(Mazars USA LLP is Trump's Accounting Firm)www.scotusblog.com/.../Issue: Whether the Committee on Oversight and Reform of the U. S. House of Representatives has the constitutional and statutory authority to issue a subpoena to the accountant for President Trump and several of his business entities demanding private financial records belonging to the president.Argument: 31 MAR 2020
Trump v. Deutsche Bank AG(Deutsche Bank AG is the bank from whom Trump gets loans; it is is "lender of last resort")www.scotusblog.com/.../Issue: Whether the Committee on Financial Services and the Intelligence Committee of the U. S. House of Representatives have the constitutional and statutory authority to issue a subpoena to creditors for President Donald Trump and several of his business entities demanding private financial records belonging to the president.Argument: 31 MAR 2020
Trump v. Vance(Cyrus Vance Jr. is New York's Attorney General.)www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/trump-v-vance/Issue: Whether a grand-jury subpoena served on a custodian of the president’s personal records, demanding production of nearly 10 years’ worth of the president’s financial papers and his tax returns, violates Article II and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution.Argument: 31 MAR 2020
United States v. NixonDecided 24 JUL 1974Nixon attempted to assert Executive Privilege regarding the White House tape recordings which were subpoenaed by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/418/683cdn.loc.gov/.../usrep418683.pdfFrom the Opinion of the Court... We conclude that, when the ground for asserting privilege as to subpoenaed materials sought for use in a criminal trial is based only on the generalized interest in confidentiality, it cannot prevail over the fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of criminal justice. The generalized assertion of privilege must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial.--- After Nixon unanimously lost this case, he resigned soon after.
Slight correction: Vance is the Manhattan District Attorney, not NYS AG.
“Due diligence impaired”? Who do you think you are? I actually dgaf tjwhat you think is important in your life, I’m different , I’m not hoping against all hope that one of those is going to affect Trump like you seem to be giddy about, calm down before you shit. by the way, I was 7 years old when you were born, so I remember more than you think as I was fully aware of and observed the Nixon proceedings myself. You were prob barely coming of age.
Also, you claim Trump will be imprisoned, I guess you’re clairvoyant and know the outcomes of all of that, even though it’s unlikely he will even have to appear. That’s long after his second term, which is imminent. I just have a hard time with negative people like you that seem to get pleasure from seeing a president hounded and derided and hassled non stop just because “orange man bad”, I don’t know anything about you, other than you apparently want to impress me with all this... I stand corrected, ok? But only on the part where I said it’s all speculation on your part. But again, you made the claim, so you can’t expect me to look up your claims when I’m basically indifferent to the whole topic. 😎
Also you said he will die in prison, such a macabre notion, as if you’re fixated on Trumps death, hopefully in prison if you have your way. What the hell could he have done to make you so personally hateful of him? It’s like you’re obsessed,,, not healthy , in my humble opinion.
I don’t personally know Trump. He was not my first choice in 2016- but I voted against Clinton, which meant Trump got my vote, a side effect of voting against Clinton. I find myself defending him only because I like arguing with the airheads on here that are so full of themselves and uninformed, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. Also, I have a mild dislike for the democrats at al, bc they are hell bent on destroying this once great nation. Also I’m looking forward to seeing all the rogue members of our law rnforcement agencies that are about to be held accountable for their dastardly deeds before, during, and after Trump began his campaign. All the things, that Clinton and hr minions did to cheat in the election, all of which is still just coming out, and after all that, she STILL LOST! 😳😳 Talk about looking forward to seeing justice achieved, I’ll be watching with my popcorn, and feeding crow to many members of this community too...😎 lol
@Girther101) I want to be clear that I do not hate him. 2) I've been watching Donald Trump for 47 years since he and his father were sued by the Federal Government for racist housing practices in 1973.3) Like all New Yorkers, we've come to discover that he is really just an immature selfish narcissistic unreliable manchild whose failures are as numerous as his successes.We can tolerate that to a point.But when he is actively destroying the very foundations of Western Civilization to forward his personal interests and misogynistic racist beliefs, then it is our duty as Americans to speak up and take action. What was the last straw for me was giving the Medal of Freedom to Satan's Lover, Limbaugh, on live TV during the State of the Union address. Limbaugh... I would hate him, but God got fed up with him before I did, thus Limbaugh will be gone soon just like Hitler and Lee Atwater. I love when God steps in to vanquish Evil in such a public way... as will happen to Trump.
You just laid out the best description of absolute hate for Trump, as I have ever heard. All of it is subjective, and boils down to an irrelevant partisan rant, as useless as tits on fish.
And proves the level of dishonesty that you are just fine with, but again , no one cares, especially not me...
@Girther10 I think hate, by definition, is subjective.His is earned by many people with that Limbaugh medal.I could tolerate Trump and even if I was a Senator possibly not vote to remove from office.But what he did at the State of the Union was actually tasteless.He will be prison... or assassinated.
@Girther10 Level of dishonesty that I am fine with?Not sure what you mean.Anyway, frankly, I just care anymore.Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord and he will get taken out just like like Limbaugh and just like Atwater and just like Nicolae Ceaușescu...I am muting this thread, so don't bother. I am busy streaming a National Lacrosse League game and don't want to be disturbed.Enjoy!https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YqKDEvaVANGV
Don’t you think if it was that easy it would have been done a long time ago? That’s a fantasy of many others besides you. The people you want to pass laws for are the people who pass the laws..., duh! 😂🤣😅
Are you kidding me? Nancy could barely keep her teeth in her mouth. She made a fool out of herself
@MarketRet- Having the majority in the senate does not mean all republicans are “in his pocket”, that’s not how politics actually works, except in your own cartoon like mind. It looked to me like he didn’t see her hand being out to shake, he turned and turned his head. She looked like a nervous wreck throughout the speech, the facial expressions were distracting, she looked totally triggered from the start. She knew she was an epic failure, and it showed in her behaviour.
And most of America gave Pelosi the collective finger. 🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
I mean, most of America collectively gave pelosi the universal “hi” sign. 🖕🏼🖕🏼
She cries about Trump and the constitution, while she and others of her ilk shreds the constitution every single day.
Congratulations!!! Your comment is the most ignorant comment I have ever read on this site. I am a Trump supporter and I assure you I am more intelligent and educated than you are.
@Paige90 you must belong in a special ed class for the dumbest girls in the world.
Some one needs soothing cream for his inflamed asshole. Hurts to be a butt raped liberal, doesn't it😂🤣😅😂🤣😅😂🤣😂
@KrakenAttackin you must be a queer christian who worships a fake god
I would rather be the conservative "top" than the liberal "bottom".
@KrakenAttackin is that what you tell your boyfriend Jesus?
Wow, you are an angry little boy. What happened, did the barista misspell your name on your cup or some other huge travesty?
@KrakenAttackin typical homo response
So you hate homosexuals?
@KrakenAttackin you admit your a homo.
Come on over, I will throw you over the hood of my car and show you what it is to be a woman.
@KrakenAttackin is that what gay jesus says?
i'm saying that it's his supporters who keep getting fucked.
No one? What would the right thing have been, considering Trump did illegally withhold allocated funds in order to get something of value to his re-election? Ignore it?
@goaded We know what would have been the right thing. Show the documents you were too afraid to show. Let those who wanted to speak who hadn't already, speak. Subpoena those who didn't want to speak, and arrest them if they didn't, just like you or I would be arrested if we disregarded a subpoena. But that wasn't going to happen, and it was known that the cowards with their noses up the potus' butt would disregard anything short of a confession. EVEN THEN, they would probably have voted to acquit - that's how fucked up the McConnell & company clan has become. It was a disgraceful mockery of what government is supposed to be.
Like, maybe he knows things that you don’t know... ya think? But that’s not saying much, I’m not the president and even I know things you’ll never know, so there’s that...🤣>>
@Girther10 Well I know thngs you don't know so... we'll see if AIDS gets eradicated. That's a big ask.
I thought aids was done for? at least they got a handle on its rate of spread?
@Girther10 That's not the defintion of eradication.
www.foxnews.com/.../judge-andrew-napolitano-despite-his-impeachment-trial-acquittal-trump-clearly-guilty-of-a-high-crimeJudge Andrew Napolitano: Despite his impeachment trial acquittal, Trump clearly guilty of a high crime
@goaded done and over though. World turns im afraid.
Well, it's in the past, yes, but it's simply not true to say either that "Nothing happened", or that there was "no evidence". And people, like you, are still telling those lies today, so a response is warranted.
LOL... funny. People who dedicated their lives to serve under 4 different presidents just all got together and "made shit up" ! LOL Yeah... what's REALLY mind blowing is that trumpers actually "believe", he's never, ever, EVER told... one, single, solitary lie, be it a spin or a complete fabrication. Now THAT... is truly MIND BLOWING ! LOL
@loveslongnails - Unglue yourself from CNN and MSNBC - there's whole 'nother bright world out there to explore. What is mind-blowing is how dumb liberals are. And yes, THEY MADE IT ALL UP - including the fake whistle-blower. You'll see soon enough. It has nothing to do with trump lying or spinning - that's not what's at stake, and that's not what the impeachment was or was about. So cunfuzzled.
Oh boy... it's a "mass conspiracy of trump haters, starting with the whistle blower! Ok, I'll wait for "the truth" to come out. *eyeroll*
@loveslongnails - You'll see. I guarantee it. Consider listing to a man named MARK LEVIN. He's on xm radio - he'll edumacate you some. If you're willing. You've been sold a bill of goods. Yes, LIES. CNN is all lies. They have an agenda, they are the right arm of the democrat party. Whom are all losers. Get ready for FOUR MORE YEARS. And likely a decade or more of republican leadership in this country. The dems are completely lost, and way out of touch with normal americans.
You're unhinged, dude. You've aligned yourself with scum, like McConnell, Nunes, and their ilk. I'm not defending the Dems. There's plenty of bad apples there too, but I know bullshit when I hear it, and I know who's bought and sold. So, we're done please. I've nothing to learn from you, nor you from me.
@loveslongnails - You're silly. You named all the people in charge. Thank god people like yourself are not.
The useful idiots don't care, they will march to the liberal drum beat no matter what.
@KrakenAttackin - They are shockingly ill-informed. Who was it that called them the 'low-information voter'? They really should not be allow to vote - there should be some kind of competency requirement. Now they want to let all the illegals and felons in prison vote as well. And lower the age to 16. The kid's can drive so they can vote? But aren't mature enough buy tobacco or alcohol products, and can't make medical decisions without a parent authorization. Got it. This stuff just blows my mind.
Our public schools have become indoctrination camps for liberal progressive ideology.
@KrakenAttackin - Agreed. What should we do about that? And they want to import as many immigrants as possible to support the progressive agenda.Brilliant Ben Shapiro has been called a nazi for his views. And he's jewish!! People are so dumb.
Who is laughing? Europeans? They should be worried about the rapefugee crisis they created and not worried about how Americans govern our country.
@KrakenAttackin yea we are overrun by muslim rapists but at least it's not our very core that declines.
Yeah actually it is. You lost your soul when you handed the leadership keys to feminist.
@KrakenAttackin that's like saying that you handed the leadership keys to niggers when obama was elected. you sir are retarded and part of the problem. i wonder how red your neck is.
i laugh-trump provides endless amusement when he's in the spot light.
@Sabretooth yeah in the beginning i was shocked but now i can only laugh every time america shows me they can get even more stupid xD
you'll love this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7JvFMpw_ro&t=1s . trump has turned msnc into a comedy show-no offence to them.
@Sabretooth he's basically the bully on the global schoolyard. nobody dares to call him on his bullshit, cause they fear to get hit.
Lawrance has. trump is a coward-watch this: https://youtu.be/9QOTOK2SqHo?t=217 Lawrence castrated everyone who heard or watched this-that's how badly he burned trump.
@Sabretooth everyone know he's a blatant racist. i don't know why everyone even in the news still acts suprised.
something never cease to surprise. point is that Lawrence made trump show his cowardice.
Uh, who are you talking about, exactly? I suspect you're thinking of the wrong side.
@goaded You know who I'm talking about so don't act stupid.
I'm pretty sure I do, but you've got it the wrong way around. The traitors are the ones who decided not to listen to any more evidence, even as they were sitting on 24 e-mails setting out the reason Trump wanted the OMB to withhold the aid to Ukraine (if the e-mails said it was for a good reason, they'd have released them).There's a reason a load of Trump's advisors are convicts.Decent people don't associate with crooks, let alone knowingly vote for them.
@goaded There is no credible evidence. You are just looking to burn innocent people at the stake because your angry that you didn't get your way. You and people like you should be catapulted over the wall and out of the country without a helmet.
Don't be silly, there was plenty of credible evidence, and a wide-open chance to hear or see more, if you thought it was necessary to reach a conclusion.
You mean Jesus, right?
There was zero evidence of a crime from the get go. It was the house if Representatives job to being a solid case for the Senate trial. They failed miserably in their biased one sided attack
@purplepoppy-Trump never committed any crimes though. So your comparison of something for yourself doesn’t apply, 🤪🤪
Or. Maybe when you change itizenship and become our president, you prob will enjoy all your trials without witnesses, because you’re the president, and will have such privileges...🤪🤪🧐
@RavenMaven- well said, how did you get so well spoken at such an early age? Follow me.
@RavenMaven The witnesses should have been called during the impeachment by the House. Also, the dems didn't allow Republicans to have witnesses or to be present during discussions. Trump got zero due process during the impeachment.
100% agree with you on that
But it isn't just feminazis he is making miserable. Scientists too
Scientists are always miserable.
The only people that doesn't get miserable by Trump are his own supporters. After all of his delusional statements I have lost touch with politics and am simply not interested anymore
Make up your mind. Are you miserable, or don't you care? Big difference.
Im not miserable. But im not that interested in politics
@BigDlckAndBallsChad Now you know how Americans felt with 8 years of Obama.
Thats why I can't get into politics. Every politican are always told to be full of shit
@BigDlckAndBallsChad Only the uneducated and fools like him.
You have an interesting interpretation of the word "debunked". There wasn't, as far as I'm aware, anyone who said that Trump didn't do exactly what he was accused of.
I was thinking of something specific i should have mentioned it but as far as his trial i didn't here much proof if any about what he was accused of, all i heard was accusations and emotional manipulation with a hint of orange man bad.
Thanks for admitting nothing was "debunked". Why do you think you didn't hear any more proof during the trial? Who do you think stopped you from hearing any more proof?
And how did Obama’s balls taste
@Rissyanne Barracks or Michelle's?
18 witnesses testified before the House and their testimony was presented.
You said "no witnesses were allowed to testify" which is untrue.
So if it wasn’t a constitutional impeachment inquiry, it’s not an impeachment. If it’s not an impeachment, there’s no trial, right? No trial no acquittal, everything is erased as if it never happened, as it should be.
Are you daft? Ken Starr isn’t the only present day anacgphronism still rolling around in this Congress, you conveniently forgot pelosi, nadler and shifty shiff, ... funny how that hypocrisy works huh? Itsveven in this very comment...
@Girther10 If you were paying attention Starr led the impeachment proceedings against Clinton for getting a blowjob from an intern. Now he says impeachment isn't a legitimate way to remove a President. None of the people you mentioned even come close to matching that level of hypocrisy.
That’s funny, because I haven’t listed a single person about anything at all , especially in terms of hypocrisy, maybe you’re confused- again. Yes clinton committed actual crimes, including lying under oath, perjury. Trump has not been accused af a crime. Big difference to most people who continue to pay attention. It was never about just the blowjob and you know it. Again, your outright dishonesty doesn’t seem to phase you at all.
And Starr didn’t “lead the impeachment against Clinton”, Starr merely completed the mandated investigation into Vlinton that eventually was the basis for his impeachment based on his committing crimes against the people of the United States.
I’m just calling you out on your original statement that was void of any facts. You claimed Trump will go to prison for life and would die in prison. That’s the ridiculousness of you that I’m pointing out.
I can't wait for the next wave of liberal tears, rioting, and cray baby tantrums! Let those liberal fools stroke out from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I figure things was going to happen this way , hell they didn't remove Bill Clinton from office
Just like the impeachment itself was 100% Democrats and zero Republicans but yet they want to call it bipartisan
Romney is a Republican.
That was the trial by the Senate, I was referring to the investigation by the House of Reps
for the misinformed or those who do know about what trump has done and either support it or just don't care-your devotion is about to become far more costly than it already is-his budget plan: www.rawstory.com/.../ i hope you guys have treasure stashed away.
You should write a letter to your congressman 😂😂😂😂
dude you don't need violence or coersion. you just give them money. easy as that.
Really? The first time I saw avatar, I sat spellbound not knowing what would happen next, but after th pot wore off I could easily predict the next things, so I guess it’s an ok analogy... 😅😂🤣 random as it is... lol
@Girther10 Yeah it's quite an old story template! Pocahontas, Dances with wolves, Fern Gully, etc... I mean to be fair its selling point was clearly meant to be in its aesthetics, and recycling a tried-and-true, age-old tale was a smart move as far as optimizing its budget for aesthetics.
I remember thinking that it reminded me of dances with wolves.. well that Sucks! They need to stop using old plot templates then... new movie, new plots, I say...
But as for the predictability of the acquittal, one wonders if pelosi and her minions really thought this thing all the way through? It was a massive risk, yet she took it... what you think will happen now that it’s over?
I use the word “over” rhetorically, as it not actually over over... lol