This can't be real (googled it), OK it's kinda real but the bill hasn't passed and most likely will not pass, but it's very possible due to Alabama's average IQ (IT'S A JOKE).
People are bringing up Alabama's abortion laws. I have my own opinion on abortion but a vasectomy and an abortion are different. One is an operation that prevents pregnancies in the future and the other is the termination of an already living being after the pregnancy (that's what abortion is, prove me otherwise). If men are going to be forced to have vasectomies should women be forced to have their tubes tied? That would be the real equivalent, you can't compare it to abortion because (in most cases) nobody forced you to bump and grind and get impregnated in the first place.
Here's what I'm wondering though
What 50 year old men are getting girls pregnant? A lot of men past their 50s can't even get their dick hard anymore and you're going to chop their balls off (exaggerating). Most of the pregnancies that this bill wants to eliminate are mostly coming from lower class people in their 20s and 30s, I don't see where 50 year old men come in.
Who's going to pay for these surgeries? Are they going to have to pay it themselves? Is grandpa going to have to add vasectomy payments to his retirement plans? Are the tax payers going to pay for them? I sure as fuck don't want my money going towards chopping old men's balls off without his consent.
What happens if he refuses? Is the swat team going to bust down Grandpa's door, hold him down in a spread out position for some guy to take the chain cutters to his nads?
Great I hope it gets through and becomes law, and then Alabama turns into a ghost town. I find it quite interesting to see how they are going to be able to maintain the laws when men start leaving and no men start moving in, when companies leave because the men are leaving and there's a massive increase in unemployed women because there aren't any jobs.
I also wonder how they are going to try to enforce it given that it's state mandate to try to cause damage to a human, that they think it's then ok to remove bodily autonomy to enforce infertility in a whole section of the population as a way to counteract a previous law.
A law that was passed by women and men, I wonder how they are going to do it and enforce it when they will be violating so many fundamental human rights.
I see Alabama going the way of the dodo bird but if they are going to insist on having the law then great have at it, just accept that they were warned they'll give men to leave and those men being in large part business owners will also make a lot of women unemployed and it won't affect men because men will also be forced to leave or forced to undergo the operation. So they will also leave.
🙄 well to simply matters, We could just force mass sterilization like the Nazis did after getting the idea from the United States. Oh so wait we have done this before..
If history is any indicator, Legal policing of humans private body, really needs to be stomped out. It opens the door to some deeply dark gruesome places, once there you can’t get out of without huge sacrifice that could have been avoided if people took the threat more seriously in the first place.
We should he moving forward not backwards. Even if this was meant as ghattucs it’s dangerous that it was even humored.
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Once again radical liberals prove that their ideology is full of hypocritical contradictions.
It was at 50 or after 3 children. It's a salty way to fight the anti abortion laws in the state I find it to be a childish way to deal with the problem. It will actually do more harm than good in changing the laws for women. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/483065-alabama-lawmaker-proposes-law-forcing-men-to-get-a-vasectomy-at-50-in
HAHAHAHA What a waste of taxpayer resources.
https://www.bamapolitics.com/alabama/alabama-government-officials/profiles/rolanda-hollis/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolanda_Hollis
> The Northwest Florida Daily News reported that Hollis was arrested for domestic violence at the Inn on Destin Harbor in Destin, Florida on September 22, 2019.
It's preposterous, and this brainless legislator is making the case for her pro life opponents. Equating abortion to another unnatural, completely interventionist surgical procedure done against a person's will? Sounds like an abortion to me. Sure should have introduced a bill banning vasectomies. That's the equivalent. Here's the thing: be pro choice if you want, but don't try to force this silly "reproductive rights" argument. It's not persuading anyone, it leads to goofy stunts like this one, and it just makes women look helpless and selfish. Just say you're ok with killing fetuses and move on.
honestly i kind of support that.
okay okay.
BUT HEAR ME OUT.
so the main point is that as men get older, their genetic material gets more and more flaws. Mostly chromosome flaws. Those are dangerous. Thats how down syndrome people are born. Right now the numbers of down syndrome people and other chromosome problems are skyrocketing. Why? Because people choose to have kids when theyre old.
This doesn't only go for males. Women over 40 aren't able to have children anyway. So why not make it 45 for both genders?
That would be equality. That would be good for the country.
I see what she’s doing. That shouldn’t be the focus. She should see about legalizing abortion.
Not to mention how many old men are having kids? She should have said 35.
Clearly it’s going to be thrown out and it should but I understand why she wants to do it because abortion is no ones business aside from the woman
Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. But what do you expect from bass-ackwards Alabama Reps. Spend the time, money, energy and influence on education rather than mandating medical procedures on citizens.
Geesh - This is so asinine I had to look it up to make sure this wasn't a hoax! But there it was:
"HB 238, filed by Rep. Rolanda Hollis, D-Birmingham, would require a man to undergo a vasectomy after the birth of his third biological child or within one month of his 50th birthday. The bill also says the procedure would be done at the man’s own expense."
I guess this may stem from a grudge against men. As I looked for the vasectomy cite, I also found THIS! Check this out from a few months ago-
I would would gladely stand side by side with feminists and the women of Alabama and agree to this bill ONLY if the feminists of Alabama agree to the following circumstances regarding the women of Alabama :
1. All women must obey my commands at once and without question.
2. Women must never complain when I sleep with other women.
3. Under no circumstances are fat and ugly women to be within a 5 mile radius of me. Ever.
4. Women must not speak to me unless spoken to. I want to see them not hear them ( unless they are ugly- then I don't want to see them)
5. No women must ever disagree with me.
6. All women must address me as "Lord Big Cock" or " "Sweet Sugar Daddy"
7. On the first of each month they will line up and recieve a spanking.
8. Once the bill is passed all feminists in the State of Alabama must be rounded up and sent to Mars.
If the feminists of Alabama agree to these eight conditions I will drop everything and move to Alabama today.
Vasectomies, like abortions, should be treated the same way. As options people can utilize as needed. Not forced upon people to have to do or not do.
Kind of stupid because what percentage of 50 year olds are getting bitches pregnant anyways? I can't imagine its a high number. Like I get it happens but obviously more younger guys get girls pregnant
I guess why not. Men already don't have protection from genital cutting at birth, so why should they have any bodily autonomy at all?
More seriously, this should have been struck down before immediately. This bill proves the absolute lunacy of our government, and the waste it creates.
The purpose of the bill is to counter the fact that Alabama passed a bill that has the real world effect of a full ban on abortion. It's subsequently been blocked by a Federal judge.
The point - and the sponsors are very clear about this - is to introduce legislation that imposes state control on the male reproductive system. Which is exactly what Alabama's abortion ban does to women.
Speaking for myself while I live far away from Alabama and the US.
Any nation has better chance of colonizing Jupiter than getting anywhere near my genitals with a sharp objects.
Breaking into area 51 is way more doable than breaking into my pants.
With all this abortion talk, I've been wondering where the men are in this equation because it takes two to make a baby. Even if she just wrote this bill to make a point, I applaud that
Anything is possible now days. Why in a world would a law force Males age 50 or older to get Vasectomy's , the next law will force Women age 35 to get their Tubes cut and Tied just crazy laws and the Governor of Alabama talked about passing a law for castration against Males who did sexual crimes against Females of any age and again this Governor of Alabama , Kay Ivey might have early stages of Alzheimer's?
It's nonsense. I understand that it's 'symbol action', that only has as aim to show how ridiculous it is to impose government restrictions on reproductive freedom for women, but it's not a valid 'way' to get me hop on the wagon to help the ladies defending their cause.
The government cannot force medical procedures on people. We would never stand for that.
I think we should all get vasectomies anyway tho.
"Theres too many men, too many people causing too many problems, and there's not much love to go around, can't you see this is the land of confusion"
Phil Collins "Land of confusion"
i had ine when i was 18 thinking i was gonna score more than that team in the super lol but sadly i got burned but i am lucky i had it done while regretting not being able to have kids. i an for it but i had the stupid choice but to force it is like rape but i guess women dont see it like that :/
It's nothing but a political statement and can't be taken seriously. This is super common in politics. It's also a waste of time and money introducing bills that are only for show and have zero chance of passing.
If you look at the Congressional record, you'll see a high percentage of bills that are like this. It's all show, to make a political statement. They never even make it out of committee and were never intended to. Most of the moral issues are like that.
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