The Nazis were kind of unique, though, both in invading other countries and wiping out their Jewish populations, and in the industrial way they went about their slaughter. Working people to death and executing them by firing squad is not quite on par with gassing thousands of souls a day in specially-built facilities.
@9nsane I think part of that is just Germany though, they made the first highway system at the same time too, as well as the blitzkrieg, efficient rockets, and efficient genocide.It's sickening applied to killing people though, when I went to Dachau, it was sobering, we were partying and loud everywhere else we went in Germany, there though, everyone was quiet, you could feel the purpose of the place. The cathedrals we went and saw weren't that quiet.Odd place to be, you want to see it because of the history, and at the same time you don't.
I guess that is some of it. There is just something very strange about considering that there were literally people who had this as their job for years, just killing trainloads of men, women, and children, day after day after day. How can you even make sense of something so grotesque? I remember reading a diary excerpt from some SS guy who had been on the Eastern front talking about how far the brains flew when they shot some women after forcing them to dig their own graves. And he just talked about it like it was interesting. WTF is wrong with someone like that?
Also, I think German efficiency is sometimes exaggerated. E. g. part of why they lost the Battle of Britain was the Spitfire's superiority. Their tanks were also worse than the French ones initially. It was only thanks to clever tactics that they won then.
@9nsane I can't find the graph anywhere online, but I saw it once at an engineering school we were competing against, quality vs. quantity. From an engineering point of view you want to be able to produce a high quality product, but not at the cost of quantity, or it is a poor product.Hell, take a look at the Vietnam war, in every way our technology was superior, and we won every battle. We lost the war with our own weapons being turned against us in simple IEDs being produced in huge numbers. We drop a cluster bomb, and not all the bomblets detonate, those get harvested and turned into landmines and grenades.
Interesting. I like the story about the art teacher who divided her class into two groups and asked them to make pots. The next day they would be graded, but one group would be graded on quality and the other would be graded on quantity. It turned out that the group graded on quantity (who churned out as many pots as they could) also won out on quality.
I agree with you about Dachau, I went there decades ago, and it still stays with me.@9nsane "part of why they lost the Battle of Britain was the Spitfire's superiority" I was watching a program the other day, and it said that the ME109 was a far superior fighter, for a couple of reasons: 20mm (?) cannon, rather than (.303?) machine guns, and fuel injection, which allowed them to power through negative-G. What screwed them was incompetent leadership that insisted they fly alongside bombers (at nearly stalling, slow, speeds). And I say that as a proud Brit.
You really think he'd be as villified by Hollywood/MSM if he killed Asians instead? I don't buy it.
Oh yeah, for sure. As someone else pointed out, it's because it's fresh in the minds of Europeans and Americans and is part of that part of the world's history. If you were from the south of Europe or Western Asia, different people would be and are just as villified in the local media and education systems. Leaders throughout Turkish and Russian history, for example.
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True. Hitler isn't seen as big of a deal in Eastern history
As for Europeans killing non Europeans, Leopold II is viewed as a villain now, but not as much coverage. Also was longer ago, there is a time element.
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