Not sure if it was Obama's unwillingness to work with Congress or Congress's unwillingness to work with Obama?
@EnglundUberAlles A bit of both, actually.However, under Reagan he got the bulk of his agenda through a Congress where the House was controlled by Democrats for all 8 years of his presidency and also the Senate for his final two years. Yet he remains only behind Johnson - who had a Democrat controlled Congress for the whole of his presidency - among post-FDR presidents in terms of his ability to get legislation through Congress. (It being also notable that Johnson was forced to withdraw for re-election while Reagan left office after 8 years (two terms) even more popular than when he came in. )The point being that Obama lacked the capacity to forge a consensus behind his agenda. Indeed, he could not even get his central objective - a national health care system - through a Democrat Congress. Being forced to compromise on Obamacare and not get the "public option" he wanted. (The program remaining unpopular until the mandate was abolished.) Bottom line, the man must be judged - indeed any President - by what he could attain and his capacity for leadership and compromise. Obama, by that standard, was a relatively inconsequential figure. (As were Clinton and Bush II.) Indeed, he basically, during his 8 years in office, within the constraints of the consensus that Reagan established in the 80s.
Obama was also faced with increased polarization; the inability ot two parties to work together for the common good.
@EnglundUberAlles What President has not been faced with polarization? Do recall that Mr. Reagan comes into office after a succession of 5 failed presidencies. Recall the turmoils, race riots, campus radicalism and social tumults of the 60s and 70s. The record high peacetime double digit inflation (14.5%) and rising unemployment that would peek at the highest level since the Great Depression (10.8%), not to mention rising Cold War tensions.It really is the myopia and self-absorption of the current generation that makes it believe that the recent turmoils are unprecedented and that there has not been cultural and political polarization before. Believe me. Mr. Reagan faced as much political conflict as anything that Mr. Obama endured - he was just more effective at doing so.
@EnglundUberAlles Really? And you don't think the world's more divided now? I'd say Obama had a much better working environment than Trump.
@meesegoMoo A lot of Trump's problems are of his own making. He refuses to work with Congress, even to the point of preventing them from doing their job as mandated by the constitution.
What did Obama do? Fast and furious? The Iran deal? The slowest economic recovery in U. S. history?
@meesegoMoo Fast and Furious, another Fox News nothingburger. Just a tale from Grampa Rush and other right wing talkshow hosts to get rednecks and chuds riled up. The Iran Deal was good, actually. I know that right wingers don't appreciate multilateral diplomacy, but believe me, it makes the world a much better place. Obama did great things for the economy, I don't know what you're talking about. He looks even better compared to Bush and Trump.
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That wasn't the question, and also no shit. It's not that big an achievement.
So is Trump. Trump just lies more often and shows his mistakes himself by constantly contradicting himself. It's easier to trust him to some people just because Obama was much better at lying.
@meesegoMoo actually, the national agenda is set in stone. it doesn't matter what party is in charge. when you learn U. S. government you'll realize how little your vote matters
Not fully. You get people like Tom Cotton filling up space and the situation can improve a bit. It IS hard to get those people elected admittedly.I would say votes only count meagerly but money and actions do speak. Especially when the action is a form of blackmail.
@meesegoMoo nothing will change. it should. but if we stay focused on a party war then when we can't agree it's not a unison vote. so that's why the election still stands. imagine all of us under hitler rule.