Really well stated, you should do a mytake with this. Many self-centered people think it could never happen in their country, it happens elsewhere in the world. They are naive. Anything can happen in a day. I think the hope is that people can 3D print them if their guns are taken away.
@Aislin9 I completely agree.
@Aislin9 "Really well stated, you should do a mytake with this."Good idea. I think I will. Keep an eye out in the next week or two.
You might want to do it soon as they just banned them in Canada. It's a hot topic at the moment. I'm not sure how they're done, cut and paste and add a picture?
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Good for them I guess, but you catch me risking my ass. Just not a sound business decision for WhiteSteve Inc., lmao.
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Since when have you been threatened at gun point to vote for someone, you live in a developed Western nation? I live in the UK and we don't have anybody forcing us at gun point to vote for them, despite how corrupt some politicians can be (expenses scandal a few years back, 'cash for peerages' scandal, etc). We have a perfectly fine working democracy and zero guns involved. Your whole argument on the corruption issue holds absolutely no weight when actually scrutinised with the most basic semblance of logic.
@WalsallGuy90 So forcing propaganda to brainwash kids and saying in plain English "we will take your guns and kill you" which a Democrat said to thunderous applause, but they quickly jumped and erased the video, but not before I heard them say it and saw the democrats cheer. You'd say that because you've succumbed to the government and surrendered to them, this country was created through our people doing the exact opposite and fighting against the same oppressive government that still exists in your country and the only thing keeping it out and allowing us to protect ourselves and the constitution is the second amendment that prevents the government from forcing policies that we disprove of at gun point because we have the ability to fire back, that alone is enough to keep them at bay and the fact that we still have our constitution despite so many corrupt politicians existing proves that. Pretty laughable how you just admitted that there's a massive amount of corruption in your elections and the next thing you said is that your system is working perfectly fine. Sleight of hand techniques don't work on me, sorry
Twisting words, I never said anything about corruption in our elections - our elections work perfectly fine, and there have been the barest minimum of any kind of corruption in them whatsoever (according to the UK Electoral Commission, out of millions of votes cast there were just three cases each in 2018 and 2019 of any kind of fraud, by individual voters). If you read what I said, properly, I pointed out that there are some politicians who CAN be corrupt, not who definitely are, and I pointed out the minor cases where this was known which were both revealed in the press and dealt with at the time. The only large scale case of corruption that I'm aware of in the UK in recent history was the Profumo affair which was all the way back in 1961. Since then corruption hasn't been a major thing here, and according to Transparency International the UK is ranked 12th in the world for being honest in politics, while the USA is lower in the table at 23rd. So we're certainly less corrupt than yourselves.
Regarding this video to do with the Democrats, I've not heard of this before, if it truly exists then I will concede that point, but only in the context of that one person saying it - I'm sure you'll agree that one Democrat saying one thing doesn't mean that all Democrats believe the same thing, just as I wouldn't say that all Republicans believe the same thing when one Republican says it. However, to agree to concede I would need to see this video, so if you don't have a copy of it somewhere to demonstrate your point then there's no evidence to back up your point.Regarding the point about you rebelling, not going to go into a long winded history lesson, but there were massive arguments on both sides and not everyone in the Colonies were in favour of independence. Also, the government structure in the UK was very different in the 1770s to what it is today, particularly as the King then had a lot more involvement in politics whereas now the monarchy is mainly a ceremonial position and great tourism booster. I'll agree that politics back then were awful (ever heard of 'rotten boroughs'? These were political constituencies deliberately drawn to make sure only one or two people had a vote, and they could vote their best friend or themselves into power, giving parties loads of seats in Parliament without fair representation - the method worked well when voting was restricted to landowners and the upper classes, nowadays the system in most countries using the Westminster system is a lot fairer, but you still see elements of the theory in the modern day in the form of 'gerrymandering').I could continue discussing this but to be honest I haven't got the time nor desire to keep debating with someone when it's painfully clear I won't be able to change their mind. Hopefully what I've said above does help you understand my position a bit more, and other than that I'm willing to just agree to disagree and leave it there.Otherwise, thank you, and I hope you have a good day.
@WalsallGuy90 Since when were people arrested or threatened with arrest for peaceable assembly and non-violent exercise of religion? Oh, wait. NOW. Petty tyrants will use any excuse to limit the rights and liberties of others.
Sandy hook wasn't an AR-15 it never left the trunk of the car.
And they have been used for home defense thousands of times.
It's been used for mass murder more than for home defense.
That first link isn't the one I wanted to share.
There is a pie chart on mass shooting a little ways down
Guns kill people. Guns and their mystique, their allure, the attraction they garner kill people. You can kill a person with a spoon but it's just not the same when you carry a spoon on your hip. You don't really feel like John Wayne that way. Guns kill people. It's only gun advocates who say different.
Knifes kill people, bows kill people, hammers kill people, cars kill people, drinking kills people.Should I go on?Guns also save lives!
@coffeewithcream That's your editorial, but first you should look up the word advocate, because it has several meanings. One is a person who "publicly" supports a cause. Another doesn't mention the word publicly. Another is to "promote" the interests of a particular group. Another is just to "support" a particular interest, with no mention of how that support is given. So while I do support the right to own a gun, as I do for protection, I don't support the NRA or any other gun groups, either publicly or financially. NOR do I find guns alluring, or their history fascinating, or to possess any mystique whatsoever. I don't shoot for fun, I don't hunt for fun or to thin a herd. My handguns serve one purpose only in my life. And yes, I "could" kill you with a ball point pen or a pencil if I wanted to, but what does that non-sequitur have to do with anything?
Nice song and dance. Who gives a fuck. Have fun owning, carrying and shooting your gun that should be regulated.
Lol, you wish that were true
That's up to you who you date. I wouldn't date you because you feel that way about firearms.
Why would I wish a guy has a small penis? But generally any guy who owns a gun is compensating for something, small or so, lack of confidence, lack of intelligence. Nobody needs a gun. The only exception would be hunters (no need for anything more than a bolt action rifle and a shotgun) and sport shooters (guns stay at range). Otherwise, I stick with my small penis comment.
I have them for self defence and in case of a tyrannical government, just how the founding fathers intended. And mine isn't small lol that has nothing to do with it.
lol if you need a gun to defend yourself you must be living i an a very shitty place.. why don’t you move somewhere better?Founding fathers had old style guns that could shoot one bullet, not these penis substitute automatic guns. They would have banned those immediately.
Lol there were repeating rifles in the 1600's which means it worked like today's lever action. And the musket was the "assault rifle of the day.No matter where you live you may need one to defend yourself.
Ummm no, I lived in Canada for several years in a city bigger than Chicago and nobody needed a gun to defend themselves lol.. only in very shitty places would you think you need a gun to defend yourself, and seriously if you are in that shitty place think about moving
I'm sure those 17 people that were killed though they didn't need one either. Your government made it illegal to use a gun in self defense. And self defense isn't a valid reason to own a firearm. Who are they to decide how you should protect yourself if need be. They can't be there ever second to make sure no crazy causes you harm. That's reality.
17 people killed in Toronto? When?
It was in Nova Scotia www.cnn.com/.../index.html
What’s that have to do with where I was living? That’s like 2000 miles away in a different province with different laws...
So the gun was ate not universal?
No they need stricter gun laws so those shootings don’t happen again
Lol, what if it happens again regardless? Or happens in your province?
Countries with stricter gun rules have this occur less than countries with insane gun rules (like the USA)Anyway, I don't date guys who like guns, none of my girlfriends do, I'll tell them to tell their friends to say no to guys who like guns, and hopefully they won't have kids and there will be less gun users in the future. Please don't reply, gun guys freak me out.
Then you haven't meet the right guys lol.To me what is insane is evertime there is a shooting Anti-Gunners demand more restrictions and more and more every time there is a shooting. Yes it may help but it will never stop it entirely and thinking it will in a word full of evil is insanity.
You say that until home Invaders are kicking in your door. Feminist language won't stop tweekers on a blood rage.
@KrakenAttackin i don't live in a place with home invaders. yeah gun guys are losers, sorry
You may live in an area that has significantly less of it, you can't say it will never happen.
Logic is certainly not you forte.
@berserk945 What makes you think he would want to date you? Why do you assume you have this power over him (or anyone else). This is really conceited of you to think you have a magical vagina.
That's very scientific of you 😆
Ah! You are a Canadian woman, this explains EVERYTHING.
"Founding fathers had old style guns that could shoot one bullet, not these penis substitute automatic guns. They would have banned those immediately."Typical ill-informed leftist garbage. Repeating rifles were invented in the 1600's and before the Constitution was adopted the Cookson repeating rifle was in use in North America.
You missed the point. Guys who like guns have self-confidence issues, probably a small penis, and I would never date them. Nor would any of my friends. Many people consider guns to be surrogate penises, long and hard, and guys like to hold them when they lack confidence down there. A way to feel powerful when they are not. Guns are super lame.
What about women that own guns what you think of them?Guns are for all sexes not just guys.
This also be like a me saying that if you buy and wear makeup your making up for something, either lake of self confidence or you have small breasts and an ugly vagina.
VERY few women like guns, go to a gun show, it's a sausage factory. Most guys who are into guns are huge losers. You don't really see fun, confident men, who are educated, worldly, great guys owning guns do you? It's usually rednecks, overweight men, uneducated, etc. etc...
Have you ever been to one?Also women are the fastest growing part of the 2A community.
Chuck Norris has self-confidence issues? You might want to rethink your thesis.
How many gun shows have you attended?
I would never date a female with your ignorant, sorry attitude. So we are even.
the fact that he felt the need to call himself beserk just screams how much of a badass he is not lol
Your guess is as good as mine.
Because women are fundamentally hypocrites. This is why women were not given any power for centuries.
Glade you realize that the AR isn't the problem but also handguns are way mor regulated over rifles already. What needs done is trying to fix inner city poverty and crime/drug rates. That is were the majority of handgun/gun death happen every year and 60% of those 30,000 gun deaths a year are suicide. Witch shouldn't be counted as a gun death in the first place.
We don’t have a federally mandated background check for gun shows and indictable sales that would show domestic violence and mental health issues. That’s a law we need.
What do you think the 4473 background check form is for. All vendors at a gun show have to run a background check on you at a gun show. Any one charged domestic violence violence automatically gets rejected a gun sale even mental health issues if you didn't seek help for it willing.We already have the restrictions we need in place. There is no way to prevent at the time a same person from purchasing a gun and down the road they lose it and use that gun they got before to kill people.
@OddBeMe No, no thanks. I have no desire to live in a police state, especially a police state run by liberals.
Who gave you or Biden the right to decide what I need?
Why don't you think anyone needs one? @plate
It just seems a bit excessive. I do believe that you should have the right to own one, but I just don't believe that an ar 15 is something that people truly need to own.
Again who are you or Biden to decide what I need? If you don’t want one then dot buy one but liberals they want to dictate to everyone
I am not deciding what you need. The question asked for my opinion, and I'm simply stating my opinion. You don't have to agree with me, but I was just saying that I PERSONALLY do not see a need for them. However, I do fully support the second amendment and your right to own an ar 15. In my mind, it's like owning a luxury or sports car. Nobody truly needs one, but people should still be able to own one.
Thanks I am pleased with that reply! 👍🏻👊🏻
Thay is true but why only limit yourself to a max range of 25 years with buckshot, 50 yards with a slug, and can't go through level 3 body armor or make pin point shots?👍🏻👊🏻
Because I'm never going to need it for that. The only reason I'd ever need a gun is more than likely for a home invasion and an AR-15 is a shitty choice for that. I highly doubt anymore is going to rob my house wearing kevlar or something. And if they are just shoot them in the head. Why would I need to shoot someone from over 50 years? Sounds like a fantasy that so many people have when they buy an AR. Most shootings aren't stopped by a rifle, they're stopped by a handgun. Most attacks are also done with a handgun, so why would I use something that isn't a easy to react with?
Your right about the body armor, however, the head is a really small target compared to the rest of the person and you have a much higher chance of your shot missing and now inside of your shot being in a downward or horizontal trajectory is in a upward trajectory. Meaning if you miss or you have pellets from a shotgun veir off those pellets are going to travel much farther now.Shot guns are high skill guns, the are very punishing to the user to train and get proficient with, especially pumps and single/double barrel ones. But even semi-automatic ones are hard to control compared to an AR and hard to manage recoil. Not everyone is I big person to absorb the recoil like maybe you are.
I don't know a single person that's gonna just walk off being shot in the face from a buck shot at 20 feet away
That's not what I'm saying what about collateral damage if your aim is of in shooting there had how far are those stray pellets going. Buck shot is effective but if it spreads larger than there head then you have pellets that can hit something you don't want it to hit.
If I miss with an AR it's gonna hit something I don't want it to also. Plus I'm more likely to miss with the AR anyway
How are you more likely to miss with an AR-15? Its going where your sights are it does spread like a shotgun.
Because, in the heat of the moment when you have to act quickly, sighting in with an AR while trying to hit a moving target is going to be a lot more difficult than just firing off a buck shot. There's literally a reason shotguns are recommended over rifles and handguns for home defense
So who cares about the pellets that spread and missed the target and hit someone or something you didn't want it too where the same shot placement with a rifle or handgun would had only hit the target?
You're not being realistic. If someone is invading my house, why on earth would the be standing behind the attacker as I shoot that. That makes absolutely no sense. What if they also have a gun. You can blind fire a buck shot up close from around a corner and have a good chance of hitting them. Try that with an AR
Oh that's really great un aimed negligent discharge great way to shot a firearm! Watch those videos man. Learn something. Again you can't beat buck should it effectiveness at taking targets out. There is an other video I watched I can't remember which but it was James Yeager and he was saying a shotgun is a higher skill weapon. It's why they only have one per squad in a S. W. A. T. team because that person has to now exactly what he is doing and not blindly shot at something he can't see.This isn't ww1 or 2 in the trenches you have to have well aimed fire.
All I'm saying is if you're using an AR for home defense, you're a dumbass
Why would that be?
Because for the simple reason that it's a less practical weapon at close range. Which is why you're giving me all these bizarre hypotheticals to make a case against using a shot gun. If you're shooting at someone in your house, they're at most gonna be 25 feet away. Not 25 yards. I'm talking about getting rid of an intruder, not fighting off a rogue militia
Apparently you have never watched any firearms instructors! They themselves use an AR-15 as their primary home defense.
Who the fuck are you or Biden to decide what I need?
Pay no attention to reptoguys a fucking clown
Answer my question
Actually I agree with @reptocarl2. Who are you to decide what I need to defend myself and my family with?If you don't want to own one that's your choice, you have a right to that. Don't be dictating what I need.
You're way out of line if you have the audacity to tell others what they can and can't use to defend their and their families lives.
To fight against tyranny if need be.
That's fine, you have the right to make that decision and they will be there if you ever change your mind. Unlike if they are made illegal.
Agreed. I just have no use for them personally, but if someone does, then they’re welcome to it as well.
I'm more stating why you need one.
Because I want one.
Good reason too!👍🏻👊🏻