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That case isn't talked about anymore. After people started to realise the guy wasn't a great person. He shouldn't expect not to get shot after grabbing the barrel of a gun...
^ Bro, with that kind of response SMH... you sound like a heartless person who doesn’t have any remorse. You didn’t go into details how he “wasn’t a great person”? I really want to know please! Plus, is it a crime to check on a renovated house? Nobody lived there yet and he was just checking it out. I’m asking this because I was a carpenter before and I always go back to the houses I’ve built to see what it looks like now (proud of my work!). Even when it was getting renovated, I always went to check it... never have I ever experienced something to this extent. I guess people in Australia are more open minded and accepting than Americans🙃
It's well known that people go to unfinished houses and steal tools.He was arrested for stealing a TV in 2017 (it's on YouTube). And had a previous weapons charge...My kind response was probably heartless because I'm a white person saying it. Lol
^ That’s a bunch of bullshit!! Me and my crew never left our tools behind. Same goes with the sparkies, concreters, brickies, tilers and all the other lads we work along with. We always double check each area/rooms of the houses before we leave...Fair enough, stealing is not acceptable but to my understanding he didn’t steal anything from that renovated house. The murderers themselves said that they had thought he “resembled a suspect in a series of local break-ins”. So, they had assumed he was someone else. They should’ve contacted the police (let them do their job) but instead they pursued him and ended up killing him SMH LOL that last sentence = no comment. You said it... not me🤔😂
You seem like a nice person. Sorry for bothering you.I don't need to discuss this case 🤷🏻♂️
Had drug dogs sniff out my camping area while firefighting. They didn't find my fat sack of weed but they sure spent a lot of extra time sniffing my stuff
@TienShenhan The dogs only get praise and treats when they alert to drugs, so most of them learn to alert on everything and the cops never train them different because they WANT to search, the dogs are just a convenient excuse in court. Furthermore, the dogs are trained to alert in two different ways, one is to bark, but the other is to sit down. So basically, no matter what the dog does, it means drugs. Whether the dog is calm or excited, either way the cop now has probable cause to search.
Hello dear that good
it also doesn't help that media is corrupt and only ever highlights the bad things officers do for views, people in the US are either slaves or sheep to media or have woken up and stopped following media and realized the world isn't on fire in regards to ruthless police brutality
If you're in the US, statistically, white people are more likely to be killed by police.www.statista.com/.../
@Guanfei Being that black people only make up about 14% of the US population, the referenced stat doesn't substantiate your conclusion. That being said, there's also no empirical evidence that the percentage of black people killed by police is due to racial motivations, and not due to a higher percentage of crimes being committed in disproportionate numbers. Everyone seems to draw their own conclusions about what those motivations are based on their feelings.
@Guanfei Like @r3or30 Said, your statistic isn't adjusted for percentage of the population. According to your own source, in 2020, 34.8% of police shooting victims were black, despite black individuals only being 12.6% of the U. S. population. Meaning black individuals are extremely disproportionately likely to be a victim of a police shooting. For comparison, 47.2% of police shooting victims were white, despite white individuals making up 72.4% of the U. S. population. Meaning white individuals are disproportionately *un*likely to be a victim of a police shooting.
@ShortCircuit You also disregarded the second part of his comment, which is also statistically proven. That overall black people are more likely to commit a crime in which they can get shot. Homicide, assault, robbery, carjacking, rape... In the end, the reason for it is pretty obvious.
@Guanfei Black people are more likely to be incarcerated after being arrested for such crimes, but are not necessarily more likely to commit them. In fact... 58.5% of those arrested for suspicion of a violent crime are white, while white individuals only make up 32% of the prison population. Whereas, 37.5% of those arrested for suspicion of violent crime are black, while black individuals make up 37% of the prison population. This suggests that an arrest is more likely to result in incarceration for black individuals than white individuals. ucr.fbi.gov/.../table-43en.wikipedia.org/.../Incarceration_in_the_United_States
@ShortCircuit en.wikipedia.org/.../Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States"According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost 8 times higher than Whites""Of the 9,468 murder arrests in the US in 2017, 53.5% were black and 20.8% Hispanic. Of the 822,671 arrests for non-aggravated assault, 31.4% were black and 18.4% Hispanic""According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, robberies with white victims and black offenders were more than 12 times more common than vice versa""In 1978, Michael Hindelang compared data from the National Crime Victimization Survey (then known as the National Crime Survey, or NCS) to data from the Uniform Crime Reports, both from 1974. He found that NCS data generally agreed with UCR data in regards to the percent of perpetrators of rape, robbery, and assault who were black. For instance, Hindelang's analysis found that both the NCS and UCR estimated that 62% of robbery offenders were black in the United States in 1974.:327 A 2004 National Crime Victimization Survey report which analyzed carjacking over 10 years found that carjacking victims identified 56% of offenders as black, 21% as white, and 16% as Native American or Asian"The fact is, black people are overall more likely to commit a crime, and therefore find themselves in a position to be shot by police. And actually denying the fact that they're more likely to commit a crime doesn't help with the situation, because it gives them a reason to think they can break the law, and then try to get away with it by claiming that they were arrested because they're black, and not because they committed a crime.It's also a dangerous bias, to consider that anything bad happening to black people are because they're black, and never for another reason.
@Guanfei Ok, now you are shifting the goal posts. You originally referenced all violent crime. Now you are intentionally leaving out all violent crimes except murder. Murder is the only violent crime that black individuals are arrested for at a higher rate than white individuals. For every other violent crime including rape and aggravated assault, white individuals are arrested at a much higher rate. And you are still neglecting the difference between arrests and incarcerations. Not all arrests result in incarcerations. The point I was making is that when a black individual is arrested, he/she is more likely to be found guilty and incarcerated than a white individual who is arrested--which is true. This potentially suggests discrimination by courts. And you know why black individuals disproportionately commit (or are arrested for and wrongfully convicted of) murder? Gang violence. Gang violence caused by the development of black market drug sales. Black market drug sales caused by the war on drugs. End the war on drugs and we end gang violence overnight.
@ShortCircuit No, my post doesn't leave out any other violent crime. It also talks about assault, rape, robbery. In which black people are also on top. That's the thing, you're trying to make it some sort of "race war". Which it isn't. When a part of the population is more likely to commit crime, she's indeed more likely to end up in jail. Simple as that. And trying to find excuses for it won't fix it, it will just give them the feeling that they can do whatever they want and then claim any punishment is racist. Even your last argument is just an excuse. You're now saying we shouldn't punish drug trafficking to end gang violence. Well guess what: it won't work. Why? Because that brings in tons of money. And if drugs doesn't bring money in, they'll find something else to get that money. What will be next? What will you make legal next, thinking this time it will work? Extortion? Kidnapping? Robbery? Murder?It's illegal, they do it, they're punished for it.
@Guanfei This comes directly from the FBI:Rape = 67.5% white, 28.7% blackAssault = 62.1% white, 33.5% blackRobbery = 43.6% white, 54.3% blackYou were right about the last one, robbery, but that wasn't included in my initial claim. It is also still true that if you add up all violent crime, it is 58.5% white, 37.5% black. ucr.fbi.gov/.../table-43"You're now saying we shouldn't punish drug trafficking to end gang violence. Well guess what: it won't work. Why? Because that brings in tons of money. And if drugs doesn't bring money in, they'll find something else to get that money. What will be next? What will you make legal next, thinking this time it will work? Extortion? Kidnapping? Robbery? Murder?It's illegal, they do it, they're punished for it." Oh god, where do I even start? First, punishing drug trafficking clearly doesn't and won't end gang violence to begin with. Ending the war on drugs will end drug trafficking and gang violence because the gangs will be instantly put out of business by regular (safe) retailers. Sure, they will need an alternative source of money. Well, when the drug trafficking ends, and the gang violence ends, property values in the community will rise, and new businesses will move in--which will bring jobs. There, money. And as for the "oh, so why don't we just legalize murder while we're at it!"... "point"--you can't seriously tell me that you don't see the difference between murder and ingesting a plant, right? Please tell me you can.
@ShortCircuit It's exactly the same. Since the reason they do it is money. Remove one way for them to make money, they'll find another. And then another. Thinking it will stop just because you can smoke legally is so naive. Those people don't do that because they care about you being able to smoke, they do it because they get shitloads of money from it. Money they'll get another way if they can't get it that way. You won't remove the problem, you'll just push them to do something else. Probably something worse. Kidnapping for money? Robbing for money? Killing for money? They'll do it, as long as it pays well. And they'll fight each other for the opportunities to get that money.If you think they'll stop because weed is legal, you're delusional. Even more if you think that it will suddenly make the world all pretty and happy.
@Guanfei Well one factor that shouldn't be ignored is that it is a whole lot more difficult to get away with murder, or human trafficking, or whatever else, than it is to get away with passing a bag of weed for some cash--especially with chaotic, disorderly, competing rival gangs rather than a rich, organized crime syndicate. They're more likely to get caught and put away for good, and this time for an offense that they actually deserve to be put away for. And like I said, once their communities improve, many of them will turn away from crime now that they have better opportunities.
@ShortCircuit Again, you're naive. Of course it's harder to commit serious crimes. But it's also more rewarding, since instead of doing an easy job for, let's say, 200$, you do one hard job for 20000$.And they don't do that because they can't find jobs opportunities, they do because of the money they make. Much, much more than they'll make in any regular job. That's why they won't stop. Because, in fact, if their aim was to just have normal jobs, they could already do it. Nothing stops them from it. Gang war isn't a consequence of the lack of jobs or opportunities, it's a consequence of many people not wanting those regular jobs and preferring easy money made from crime. So unless you make everything legal, in the end, you're just pushing them to do something else.No one ever stopped crime since the dawn of humanity, because it's rewarding.
@Guanfei You are speaking in absolute terms. I guarantee you there are many people involved in gangs that would not have been if more opportunities were available to them, which would be the case if their neighborhoods were cleaned up. And my point was not that more serious crimes are harder to *perform*, my point was that they are harder to *get away with*--meaning they are more likely to be caught, at which point they would cease to be a problem.
Like in Harold and Kumar?
Issue is that the media creates hysteria out of a few cases. Which makes people think that the majority of cops are out to get them for no reason.
@7771999 there are lots of issues. That is one to be sure. But law enforcement does tend to attract bullies people with inferiority complexes. Not to mention their job is literally to deal with the absolute worst people the human species has to offer while also being professional and courteous with limited time, training and money. It's sure as fuck not a job I would want, but it is an important job
You're actually pretty smart. Good on you 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@7771999 you are just now figuring that out?
Okay. Don't get so cocky 😂I've made an effort to stay out of your way for the most part. So no
To say that with a straight face you must be blind or completely ignorant of police activity in the USA. Rather than give you hours of cases, I’ll just use the one that bother’s me the most. Tell me officer, is it against the law for an 11 year old boy to play with a toy gun?Then why was 11 year old tamir rice shot dead within 15 seconds of police arriving to investigate claims of a gunman? A little boy with a toy... murdered by the police. That’s only one example. The police in america kill at a higher rate than anywhere else in the world. Right now, the big news in america is an officer who killed an innocent black man, George Floyd, by kneeling on his neck.He was innocent of any crimes, did not resist, and was still murdered. My point is, in America, just because you’re innocent doesn’t mean you’re safe from abuse of authority.
@TacocaT6969 well i'm sorry to hear about that, police from the USA comes here to my country and give some training to our national police, they were always nice.It's really sad to hear about such things happening there, i know that there are a lot of faults committed there, i read the worldwide news and i see what's happening and i'm against these crimes if they were really like what your saying, these cases are not in my hands so i be able to tell you what really had happened, we just see that a police officer did this and that but i don't think that people truly knows the complete atory behind it...One more thing, officers are people and they make mistakes, some are corrupted and should be judged and some are nice...I guess that any investigation that shows that the police officer made a big mistake, he should detained, police officers's mission is to make a better world and not fuel a community of crimes and murders...It's really sad hearing about such stories and no one is above the law, if an officer committed a mistake, he should be judged like everyone else.I hope that they make some efforts in preventing such things to happen again in the USA so that the officers can gain again the trust of citizens...
Since you record every time you get pulled over. Can I as why when recordings start , it is always after the cops are already out of the car and they are next to the "Victim" , and they are screaming at the top of their lungs? Why is there never a copy that is turned over to the media that has the cops still in their car, just getting out? I mean the eye-witnesses always can fill in at least 5 minutes of "Missing footage" but, it never seems to get recorded. Your turn...
Cops always wear a bodycam so you can see all the footage of when there in their car to when there getting out. Also why do you think someone would start recording things? No one has a personal vendetta against cops. We just know it’s not a good thing to be colored and be pulled over by a cop. Did you hear of the story where a black man was just sitting in his car reading and then the police knocked on his window and asked him to get out and the man was being very respectful and complying but before he could even get out of his car the police officer shot him 3 times and murdered him. After he was murdered the police realized there was cameras and tried to act like he wasn’t dead and said “we need to help him I don't know I hat happened”. At this point there is very few police officers that is actually here to protect us.