As an, what makes it different from regular feminism
regular feminism only targets on women's issues, intersectional feminism targets on different issues besides women's related issues
What kind of issues?
ok, basically when society looks at a person everything contributes to their views on that person: race, age, ethnicity, sexuality, education, gender identity, what language they speak, ability, class, culture. Intersectional tend to focus on the prejudice and stereotypes that contributes in discrimination towards those people.
Ah okay, thanks for explaining
the other definition you got is a little... optimisticwatch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJwUBzjNXL4
Yeah no I don’t trust PragerU to make anything that is not severely biased. I’m not going to let them define things for me.
rejecting a source because it is "biased" is inherently unintellectual. everyone has a bias, we don't devalue an opinion because of a bias because there is nothing wrong with being biased. we only reject opinions for untruth
Eh, no. Using a source as authoritative in a particular matter whilst it is severely biased is inherently unintellectual. I don’t really give a crap whether or not their opinions are biased, I truly don’t care either way. But using biased opinions as definitions is just inherently unintellectual.
all sources are biased, there is no such thing as a non biased source. to say otherwise is ignorant
Sure. But one as severely biased as pragerU? That’s just silly.If I were looking for a proper definition, I’d look in academia instead of some silly youtube channel with their opinions
i wouldn't recommend trusting academia for anything. they are people who never need to implement ideas in the real world so they frequently don't understand how an idea works in real life.also my video contains direct video of intersectional feminists talking. its not possible for them to be twisting her words you see the full clip of her talkingpragerU is an accurate source. find me a lie in the video
Eh, many fields do incorporate reality in research. Theoretical economics often doesn’t, but that’s a different matter. Academia tends to be far far more accurate in providing definitions on topics with required nuance and scientific methodology than an obviously politically-biased video on youtube.Like I said, the opinion of Ben Shapiro or pragerU is not even relevant for whether or not it provides a proper definition. You can think all you want about e. g. the merits of neoclassical economics and say it’s crazy nonsense (basically like Shapiro is doing), but that is not a proper, rigorous definition of neoclassical economics.Oh, and it’s certainly possible to twist people’s words if you use their video. Ever heard of editing?
that's ALL academia does... provide useless deifiniitions. they are obsessed with definitionsreally understanding something has nothing to do with being able to define it
Well, they'll include you as long as you parrot their own beliefs. Many women who speak in opposition to intersectionalists get doxxed, harassed online, and even blacklisted in their own industries. Not q very inclusive group, if being included means foregoing your own opinions and beliefs
its not, here is a breakdown of intersectional beliefs and how harmful they are to society https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJwUBzjNXL4
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Well i mean i dont take people here serious anyway since a lot of them are biased about pretty much everything
by the way the people who downvoted you are probably women-hating men with fragile ego
Maybe. Guess I can't say for certain.
i downvoted him because he literally didn't answer the question lol
@007kingifrit he has a point tho
no he doesn't. he just insulted people... that's not a point. only someone desperate to find agreement would mistake that for a point
@007kingifrit you said it yourself just because I don't agree with you
@007kingifrit You again? Oh bro. I like you. You're special.
sounds a lot like you lack sympathy for actual victims just because you don't understand their perspective
and that's the arrogant last argument of all feminists and far left extremists "you don't agree therefore you must not understand"we understand you just fine. we just DON'T AGREE. and you can't fathom thatyour intersectionalism does harm. it encourages people to glorify victimhood and SEEK victimhood. respond to this line or don't bother because i'm not going to sit here and bother with some arrogant femnazi who pulls the "you just don't get it" argument
you obviously don't but alright. Funny how most anti feminist people are men
actually only about 1/3 of women identify as feminist and that number is dropping every year www.ipsos.com/en-us/american-women-and-feminismenjoy your dying cult. you still couldn't get past the "you just don't understand" argument
can you get past the "I understand" argument tho. And it's not a cult but ok
what is the "i understand" argument? you're just reversing my words like a child
Well you said you get it but you just don’t agree with it, but so far you have proven that you don’t actually get it, you just simply don’t agree without actually having to understand the problem here
specifically quote the exact spot where i was factually incorrect about intersectionalism. if you can't do this or you accidentally quote an opinion instead of a fact this will indicate you are talking out your ass and claiming i don't understand when in reality i don't agreei do understand. you can't demonstrate otherwise. we can tell because you never get specific
maybe it is but in the real world it just doesn't work the way they think or want. here watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJwUBzjNXL4
May I kindly ask you to expand your opinion?
Sure, feminism at its core has always been about hating men. It’s loudest voices and most idolized members have always been hateful. Solanas, dworkin, greer, steinem, etc.The biggest feminist groups like NOW, WAR. Have done multiple things to prevent men from having equal rights to their children and other things. Feminism will do anything in his power to silence, shame, attack anybody who stands up against them. They will literally destroy a man’s life to stop him from pointing out their true actions. Feminist claim they want equality, but do not care about the many male issue there are like suicide, homelessness, etc. They actually will often mock these issues and silence them when males try to talk a out them. The only want to talk about their fabricated victim narratives like “wage gap” and “rape culture” which are all easily proven fabrications when looked at realistically and without bias.They also have no issue with any of the endless privileges women have that men do not, like 100% parental rights, endless female only clubs, groups, housing, funding, protection, etc. They whine about shit like “free the nipple” not because they want to walk around topless, but because they want to bitch and have nothing real to bitch about. If they did want this, then women would be topless in all the places where it is legal (which is most western societies)... but they don’tNo feminist group EVER actually goes to places in the world where women are actually oppressed, they simply use them as a scapegoat to pretend western women are oppressed by proxy.
I can go on.
Would you like to enlighten me with your souces on debunking rape culture, wage gap, and situations where real feminists invalidate other problems besides those listed? Also i am talking about intersectional feminism which means they also talk about men's problems among other problems. And i believe you have been exposed to pretty toxic people ngl bless you man
Yeah I would. It’s literally any crime statistic outside the feminist echo chamber, but here's one to start you off.The bureau of justice statistics which is the gold star in crime statistics with a 98% accuracy. Which shows that rape is less than a 1/1000 occurrence, as opposed to the mary koss fabricated 1/4 nonsense.see page 3 table 1 https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv17.pdfIn regards to wage gap... it has been debunked by ever valid economist and is easily shown false when all other variables are taken into account Feminist take all jobs of men and all jobs of women and do an average to get their nonsense 75% to the dollar. Totally discounting the fact that men work jobs that kill and therefore get paid more. Men take less time off, men work longer hours on average, and many other variables depending on jobs. When all these variables are looked at and it is the exact same job women actually make more than men due to bonuses and quotas.time.com/3222543/wage-pay-gap-myth-feminism/Here’s an example of 3 times NOW shut down the rights of men.
THIS:" feminism at its core has always been about hating men "What a bunch of immature and inexperienced horseshit.Spend a few more decades in the real world before uttering such garbage and stop imagining giving Trump a blowjob.I'll give you this: At least you had the balls to not go anonymous with that opinion, so I applaud you for that! Bravo!
@abc3643 If all you took from my post was that one sentence... you need to read more. I have backed up my statement.Shaming tactics won’t work with me. I am not inexperienced, I am actually very educated on the subject and if you read the rest of the comments you would see that.
You really need to live more and get out there.Are you married?Have any daughters?Mother still alive?Have you showed this post or told any of them about your views?Those are rhetorical questions...
@abc3643 None of those things are relevant to the truth of the statements. Thats why I posted those links to VALID sources. Like the Bureau of justice statistics.If it need to know though, I do have a wife, a very beautiful wife and I have a daughter. And I cherish them both, But I also have a son, and I know that both my daughter and wife are protected by society and the likelihood of bad things happening to them is far less likely than to my son. The women in my life know the truth and they see the facts behind them. They aren’t sheep and they don’t drink the koolaid just because the media pushes it.my daughter will have 100% parental rights, my son will not.If my daughter calls the cops on a partner, they will take him (even if she is lying)If my son calls the cops on a partner, they will take HIM. If his partner calls the cops and lies, they will believe HER.The school system is geared towards how GIRLS learn and is ran by feminist (who will push the bullshit agenda and mark boys harder) the family courts will side with the female in majority of cases and believe accusations from the mother without proof. (These are statistically verifiable)There are endless housing, scholarships, shelters, clubs, groups, funding, gyms, etc for my daughterthere are few if any of those for my son.my son is more likely to die at work, more likely to be homeless, more likely to commit suicide, more likely to drop out of school, has to worry about paternity fraud, false accusations destroying his life, more likely to be attacked on the street, more likely to go to jail with or without committing a crime, etc.So when you ask a “rhetorical” question about the females in my life and ignore all the males, you are simply being sexist yourself and using typical silencing tactics I have heard time and time again. They do NOT invalidate the truth.
so i guess it means you would preferred to be born a woman instead? You know, since you believe that women have it better
100%... if I could have chosen before birth, I would have been a female for sure.
so you would rather be the biggest target for rape and sexual assault? You also wanna be discriminated and looked down by men in some societies for being a woman? Imagine being homeless or being in extreme poverty and having to deal with periods (pads and tampons are expensive, by the way) and imagine what if you were raped by your uncle or your dad's friend and isn't allowed to have an abortion? Also imagine having to deal your abusive husband and isn't alowed to speak up about it. You know what's the real fun here? Being a woman in Saudi Arabia where you could be raped, beaten, being sold as slave, being treated as if you're an object and being punished for showing other body parts besides your eyes
Rape is not something to be paranoid about, less than 1/1000 is the same rate as a male getting breast cancer. Yeah you should be careful of situations you might get yourself into and use common sense to protect yourself from bad people in general but that entitlement has been taught. My daughter has been taught to make proper decisions and not be entitled. I would be the same as a female.We also live in a gynocentric society where women are constantly propped up and patted on the back simply for existing, while men are treated as disposable. As a female you get constant media and social campaigns telling you that you are great simply for existing, unlike men who are told they are the reason for everything bad in the world.Being homeless or being in poverty as a female is nothing compared to being a male in those situations. Like I said above, women have endless housing, funding, clubs, and shelters which men don’t. Which is why 99% of homeless are men.Women are allowed to have abortions, bible belt areas of the states have idiots argued about because women use it as birth control. But religious nuts will always have something to hate.Can you tell me where in our society a female is not allowed to speak up about abuse? Again, we have endless protection, shelters, etc for this when its women. Unlike men who are victims of women and simply told to “suck it up” and when they end up dead, the female simply lies about being the victim and doesn’t get as harshly punished.Ahhh yes Saudi women. Remember above when I said “ No feminist group EVER actually goes to places in the world where women are actually oppressed, they simply use them as a scapegoat to pretend western women are oppressed by proxy.”This is what I was saying.Women in the middle east NEED feminism but NO feminist group will ever go there and help, they simply use them as examples in arguments for leverage.
this debunks rape culture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0mzqL50I-w this debunks wage gap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQUthis does the same in more detail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcDrE5YvqTs also i see you call sources "biased" because they have opinions. this is not an adult criticism. everyone has a bias, this does not invalidate them as sources. you must argue the information IN a source... not the source itself
you have a point when you talk about men but it makes zero sense when you start talking about women. You don't live in the reality where most women are living in, and you are simply jealous and angry over the fact that women have the kind of attention that you haven't been receiving. And like you just said "All feminism is cancer" but then you admit that middle eastern women need feminism... hmmm
How does what I say about women make zero sense?(also shaming tactics won’t work with me. I am not jealous or angry, I simply don’t see the false victimhood as true because it doesn’t reflect reality)Yeah all feminism is cancer, and yes women in the middle east could actually use a group like feminism claims to be, but “feminist” do nothing for women in the middle east, they simply use them as a scapegoat when they need a victim narrative.Go to the middle east and start a march about equal rights... You won’t because you and all feminist know that unlike here in the west where women can literally do and say anything they want with little to no repercussions, if you did that in the middle east, you will literally die. Which is why I said... women in the east could actually use a group like feminism claims to be.
i think you just answered your question on why most feminist groups won't go to those places that could actually kill them.:). And how do you know those "false victimhood" is false? Any by the way you said you are not jealous or angry but that is exactly how you have been acting, especially the ANGRY part.
I don’t see how anything I said is “angry”... it’s simply truth. Do you not see the irony of having feminism in a place it’s not needed, and saying you wouldn’t have it in a place it is needed because you know it would be resisted violently?It’s like have a bandaid on an area of the body where you don’t have a cut, while bleeding out somewhere else. Hoping that the bandaid will help.
well, I don't see any point in arguing with you based on the fact you just admit you would prefer being a woman and basically just deny every struggle most women would have to go through. I never said feminism should exist in the middle east, what I'm saying is most people aren't willing to be killed just to prove a point to people like you
Well thanks for the conversation anyway.I would love to have been a woman because the struggles western women believe they have are actually not real and I have show that.I didn’t say you should die to prove a point either. But if you want to actually live up to what feminist claim to stand for, the actions should match the definition.Which means not just complaining about stuff easily proven false, but complaining about the endless privileges women also have that men don’t, trying to make things actually equal.But that doesn’t happen, and likely never will.
here watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJwUBzjNXL4
@007kingifrit One of the stupidest things I have ever heard and absolutely insufferable.
yup. intersectional feminism is a pretty extremist ideology and people really don't like it. but the people who do like it... won't shut up about it
sure stay in your safe bubble of lies
yup that's the comment of someone who is definitely not in a cult
@007kingifrit and you are absolutely correct, sir
sarcasm honey... sarcasmif you ever find yourself shouting YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH WAKE UP SHEEP at someone else in any form of the phrase... you're in a cult.you didn't respond to her complaints or concerns at all, you just insulted her