Also even though racist individuals do use the flag, it is improper to assume this is the motovation of every person who displays it. Take a look at HK Edgerton for example.
Read the constitution of the Confederate states. See how much referred to tariffs and how much referred to slavery. In fact, read the succession declarations of the individual states while your at it.
@coffeewithcream I have actually. My point was slavery was the front and center concern of slaveholders but ordinary Southerners supported different causes in mind.
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Exactly. Lincoln actually promised to protect slavery where it existed in an attempt to keep the Union together. He did however oppose slavery’s expansion which is why the South seceded. But the actual onset of the war wasn’t for this reason because Lincoln himself stated that “without them who will pay for the government”. The North’s sole motivation was power and greed. But as the war dragged on and lost popular support the moral justification of ending slavery became more important to distract from the unlawfullness of the conflict they started.
There is another name for the confederate flag. "The symbol of Lost Causes". The confederacy was a failed nation that didn’t even last a generation.
Cringe at the flag? I udually cringe at the jacked up f-350 4x4 with offroad tires in a suburb you typically see one mounted in the bed of than the flag.You ever rode extra stiff jacked suspension with mud tires on the road? Feels like being jackhammered... and they paid extra for it lol
@razelove Yep, that too lol.
I also remember this movie, and their cool car, General Lee
@Tattia in 2020 the General Lee is racist
firstly, in the film General Lee this is a car, it can not be racist. secondly, General Lee is long dead and cannot be a racist in 2028
@Tattia Confederate flag+ southern white people equals racism
this is silly
@Tattia dont forget smokey and the bandit.
They feel its in honor of their forefathers who fought in the war, and maybe because they strongly feel tied too and support the confederacy.
Because it represents freedom from a tyrannical government that abuses its constitutional provisions. Slavery’s eventual extinction was the main concern of secessionists at the time but tariffs were the underlying issue most Southerners were being affected by.
that's historical revisionism, not actually truethe flag never went away
@007kingifrit No, that's a fact. The flag was not popular at all until white people used it in the 50s and 60s to threaten black people. Then it became popular. It was not popular back in the civil war times, they used a different flag back thenen.wikipedia.org/.../...ca_(1861%E2%80%931863).svgthe one you see today is NOT the confederate flag, but the racist one
you're completely wrong, missippi changed their flag to the confederate flag in 1894. that alone debunks your narrative that it wasn't popular until the civil rights movement
“The one you see today is NOT the confederate flag, but the racist one”. How exactly is the one being used today the racist one? It is the battle flag of the Confederate army of Northern Virginia, which was led by General Lee, a man who wrote a letter to his wife in 1858 saying that slavery was a “moral and political evil” that few supported. He spoke for the Southern man. He came from an elite background where he once owned slaves but aligned more with the Southern non-slave holding whites, in the sense that he didn’t care for slavery because all he wanted was peace.
@Jack9949 it’s racist because it was obscure before the 1950s where white supremacist/anti segregationists started flying it to intimidate black people. That’s the only reason a rankle flag of one southern army is even known today
So just because some jackasses misused it means the original meaning behind it changes? I mean the KKK has carried American flags around but does that automatically make our flag a hate symbol because its being used by hateful people?
but i just debunked your false claim by showing you it was popular in 1894
@007kingifrit say when did the other states adopt confederate related imagery? Before the 1950’s as well right?
In their state flags that is
@Jack9949 the whole point is the confederate flag was present in these communities before the civil rights movement... why limit it to just state flagsobvious mississippi is the only state with it as their flag. don't be myopic
@007kingifrit A lot more southern states used to have some version of the "Stars and Bars" in their state flags until a few decades ago. Not super recent, but not a long time ago either. As an example, I know South Carolina changed their flag sometime in the 1990s to remove the Confederate flag from the (left?) corner of their state flag...