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Chinese Army is just a Paper Army like a clay lion ! Let alone India even Japan or South Korea can beat China !Chinese tried to copy western defense weapons and equipment... but they are Not reliable at all.
And you don't know, Indian missiles are more Accurate then Chinese, I am not saying this but World media say this ! Google it.
japan is a self defense Force wouldn't enter a war with china over India who has sided with Russia and china over the past 50 years South Korea wouldn't enter it for fear of a conflict on the northern border. Plus China is a Paper Army but even more so India is this isn't China vs America this is China vs India. As for their Equipment sucking that also may be true yet again they can produce it much faster and as of now has twice as much as India. I study war scenario's for the U. S Navy I know a little about the subject.
Indian can hit more target but China can put 10 times more in the air and as of now has twice the amount of jets and 5x the tanks
No brother, I hope we don't fight to that extent... You don't know history of India... it's far better than Chinese, Chinese were killed like dogs in all wars in last 200 years... Chinese are Physically weak and very coward, Chinese only rely on technology like US Army... India can destroy China with Nuclear weapons with Agni 5 missiles
Yes Chinese are not that strong fighters I agree. They are better fighting themselves not outsiders lol. I am Americanized anyway so I just talking randomly.
Yet, China has more number of military, tanks, jets and copters. China has more firepower
lol what sample size you think a sample size using sticks and stone is a proper and real example. India can't even control Kasmir.
@grif429 It shows the lack of tactics on the Chinese does it not? I've seen their ships; it's not that impressive.
that's one thin china seems to lack in is experience. why no matter how many aircraft carrier they think they can put out at sea American Carriers will far out class theirs so experience will play a giant role in the end game.
@grif429 Aircraft carriers are not big issue for India because India have world's fastest cruise missile Brahmos, Brahmos is very fast and very Accurate missile.
I know that I was using it as a example. Brahmos is useless against sub which India have very few of versus China and the missile has very little range doesn't it at about 600km it may destroy a small ship and cripple a larger one but yes its hard to shoot down and has great speed, But I wouldn't under undercut the YJ-12 and YJ-18. I spent 22 years on US Submarines studying tactics and at Fleet Anti-Submarine Warfare Training Center in San Diego and @ sea so I have a little exp. when comes to knowing Russian/China's weapon systems
@grif429 then US and Japan shall block China in Indian Ocean...
US and Japan is not coming to India's aid not going to happen sorry not in the plans. 1st off Japan has to change its laws to do so which only allows a defensive force and would require a larger buildup 2nd the US is just finishing 20 years in Afganistan and Iraq no stomach for it and with covid virus no funds after Stimulus package and another larger one on the way. I myself would love to see the US side with India and become allies in the future i think it would be great for both of us and the other nations in indo--china and countries around the South China Sea buth this would have to be the worst time in history for a war,
@grif429 Were you enlisted or officer side?
@grif429 What was your rating?
@grif429 When and where did you get to learn about air tactics Senior?
Now working for DoD as a contractor and logistics and stuff is part of my job so I learn a a lot of things. Plus I am a big fan of the subject of war and tactics.
@grif429 Are you trying to get a civil servant job?
No want one but is one needed? that's the true question China has refused to heed the warnings of bordering nations around them over the south China sea with India over about Trade putting Muslims in camps over Covid and so much more their military build up expansion into the ocean which is to control open sea's and trade sooner or later a war will be need and it will effect all.
India has a lot more reserve wouldn't mean much because the amount of time it would take to drain down the manpower of the huge main armies of the two. But India has about 1 million extra reserve. then again who knows about the amount of police that can be called into action.
Talk about warm between militaries of the two countries, it will be China unless India is supported by any other country.
Chinese are Coward people in entire world history... Indian can cut in peices and send them to Europe
How come those coward people invade India's border and kill 20 militants?
@asker explain colonialisation by the British then... if you came here to push a pro india agenda fine but dont hide behind a simple question on who might have more military might... also it should be noted that indian and chinese diplomats are in talks at the moment to try to de escalate the current tensions over a border that was scribbled down by a British general some 70 years ago
@wankiam those long houred numerous talks between the diplomats of the two countries didn't do shit. China is still heated and invaded and Indian P. M still doesn't want to admit. He denies the fact that the Chinese invaded in the first place.
@itsthenephilim @wankiam, India can destroy China... our missile are most accurate in entire World ( didn't you hear about ISRO )
the talks i mentioned are ongoing but it really doesn't alter the fact that this whole shitstorm is the result of a British major who basically said , ''fuck it''. and it would be better to find a peacefull solution rather than the askers attitude which seems to be lets go to war during a major pandemic
Of course. And the Chinese will be throwing shoes and stones at India.
The asker just seems to be a blind nationalist. Indeed when the British departed and left the rest of the decisions to be made by the countries' people had to create conflicts but this is a serious escalation by China. I don't know what really happens at those diplomatic talks. China is currently building a helipad in another controversial area.
indeed and thats why i stepped in... this should not be a place to push nationalist agendas but a place to talk with the rest of the world
@wankiam I mean sure.. Freedom of speech. But there should also be a freedom of not accepting one sided statements.
indeed and i do defend freedom of speech until it becomes just hateful, then i question its usefulness
like is this blue anon really inciting hatred for fellow humans that also had nothing to do with where major tom penciled in a line on a map
Alas! Many can't point their hatefulness out there. They're always 'right'.
India mainstream media sucks these days and some people are just too bigoted to see past bullshit. Extremist nationalism and patriotism is what people are getting conflicted about these days in India.. Not that many care though.
same could be said of china and indeed the west too which is why i prefer it when g@g is used as a place to see what is really going on with the people of different nations... thankfully only a handful come here just to push an agenda, many more have a genuine interest in learning rather than spouting
Correct. But I don't think Chinese people who live in China can access this site. Human rights suck there.. Worse than others however.I agree on the latter though. I just think Trumptards are prevalent on here than other nationalists and supremacists. Only encountered 2 reluctant blind nationalists from India though.
you might be right on their acess to g@g but in reality they are probably better off lolagree on the trumptards but thats American tribalist internal politics for you and one thing i learned here is they, like all populists follow the same pattern met a few indians that worship modi but plenty more that either hate him or dont even care about him or the politics of the country as day to day life can be a struggle in itself.
@wankiam met only one Chinese here. He was decent; didn't talk to him much.'worship Modi' couldn't have said that better.Modi doesn't have much of an influence in South India. I too didn't used to care about politics one bit unless it weren't for Modi and his government. Some major issues are just too concerning and that one sided brainwashing done by media is very conspicuous. Modi is the perfect example of ultimate dictatorship under democracy.
Brother, No body wants to fight when it's not required... Are u fool? Modi will fight against China? He is just a stupid PM ? But Indian Army is far far better than China
i see the asker is an expert on chinese military might now also... would i be right in imagining a situation where its never really been overly publicized in india which would ofcourse raise the obvious question, how would he know anyway?
Indian army is sadly just the puppet of Indian government. Chinese government, I don't know much but they're more speacialized and trained than Indian military. Ofc I wouldn't want my nation to lose but the truth is truth. Also, China has always been doing some nuisance or the other. But hadn't Modi removed the special rights of the controversial lands such as Kashmir, ladakh etc and place Indian order, such escalations wouldn't happen. The blood of soldiers is on him.
yeah, thats the way i read the situation, the way he stormed into kashmir was asking for a fight not only with china...
@wankiam yes but also with the Kashmiris and India Pakistan dispute.. It's a never ending bs.
i know and again all caused by a bit who dodnt give a damn
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@asker how is something that happened almost a century ago relevant to modern warfare? you do realize the total number of people on earth back then was less than live in either china or india today. plus it has nothing to do with the discussion regardless of your one sided view
who said anyone is scared of them. as a people i find them fascinating and as a trading partner i wish trump would get of europes back when we deal with them. he strangely is like modi in that he is a fear monger ofcourse
that was aimed at the asker by the way... i had to remove the comments he left because he started going on about rape
@wankiam it's @Shiney19
In Next 25-30 years, India will be Super power,
maybe it's will be really hard for India to copy China's success and rise. So expert are calling it almost undoable. Market condition will need to be perfect currency conditions the same job conidition around the globe will need to be leaning towards outsourceing towards India which is unlikely if trade improves with China.
@grif429 India is more similar to Singapore than China I think. I don’t know.
Do you have any Answer for Agni 5 ? S-300 😜
Chinese will get killed like Japanese used to slaughter them like carrots ✔️🤷
Uh true, India is powerful too. If India and China go into a war against each other, then welcome to WW3!
So why we are fighting for like 10 km boundary?
I have no idea
What about 1967 ? And what about on 15th June? Did your Communists government tell you that 43 Chinese soilders got killed?Chinese Army is only Strong on Papers, there Military equipment are of Substandard because it's just Copy of Western and Russian !
15th that was sticks and stones pretty much big dif then rockets and bullets.
to call a copy of military equipment substandard because its a copy of western equipment is kinda odd since western equipment is the most exporter in the world the U. S is the top Exporter of Equipment and as of this year China is the 2nd largest exporter
@grif429 Russia is actually the second top exporter in the world. China is fifth.
I meant 1967 and not 62. You're being silly asker. Indian military is the second biggest arms importer in the world. That's because India's defense industry is not yet at capable stage of designing and producing their own weapons. A large part of these import program is done through technology transfer for local licensed production. Indian Air Force's primary jets are SU-30 that was produced in India by HAL industries, by that definition India COPIED SU-30. That's just one example, T-90 of Indian army is also a copy.
Russia was and China was third looking at any given list it changes but latest figures given China has just jumped Russia in 2020
India Equipment isn't complete garbage but a lot of the stuff compare to China's is no match and China is out rebuilding Indian at a faster pace with replacement is what i'm saying i am not talking about tanks or jet but the secondary units apcs and stuff helo's India need to advance their rebuild
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