Capitalism lines directly with human nature though?
No it does not.
Yes it does, because human nature is inherently selfish, arrogant and seeks social status, riches and prestige in society.
If it was truly the case we would never have a society in the first place. Its inherently against selfishness by your definition.
@errorgoodnameunfound Bleh. Assholes united support group for assholes.
I was referring the hispanic cool guy. I can sort of tell he's probably one of those thousands of people who have probably read into ayn rand a bit too much. Now, whether he's one of those people that read ayn rand but also ironically refuse to give up any religion/faith which Rand would mock them/tear them apart for is yet to be seen...
@errorgoodnameunfound Oh I am well aware it was not for me. I just despise her and everyone who likes her pseudo philosophy.
Well, I do get SOME of her points, but from what I know she was a huge hypocrite on many things, but her followers are worse considering just how much of what she says/stands for is ignored-embraces train travel-hates religion-when she means gov't ruins things, she may by hypocritical but fans are worse. -no, she wasn't a feminist, unless of course, when it benefited her-she ended up alone with no friends, and likely, its how her biggest followers will end up, and whine about it tooIt's astonishingly ironic seeing a gas guzzler SUV (usually a GM model, a company that got a bailout, aka, socialism) with both a "who is jon galt" sticker right next to a sticker of Jesus/a cross.It's just like the current irony of tik tok being mainly trump fans, yet the platform is most hated by trump himself. I get they feel "bullied" on other social media but to take to a foreign controlled platform, ESPECIALLY one from COMMUNIST China is utterly ridiculous and I'd like to see some of them finally have a spine and say something different than Trump. Not that I'd agree, as I LOVE that Trump is anti China and in my opinion, he should zero in on it and work harder at uniting people around it rather than the same old base mongering. Basic logic.
@errorgoodnameunfound I disagree completely with her philosophy. First of all she calls it "Objectivism" as if it is founded in some kind of objective reality and reason. Its not. Reality is subjective and this is enforced by both reason and universal laws. Reality is filtered through your perception and reason to give it meaning such as colors, good or bad, right or wrong etc.. Without you there to observe it is meaningless and your observation is unique to you.Likewise logic and reason is not objective either. Even something as "objective" as mathematics has its limits. Things like how pi has infinite decimal places for example comes to mind but in reality such concepts makes no sense. It is not how the world functions.Lastly her fundamental idea also does not make sense. She recognize that if we only have one life then we should life that life to its fullest but she makes a false logical jump in thinking that the best life comes from selfishness.
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Communism is inherently evil. To deprive someone ownership of their sweat, blood and tears is evil.
your reply has little to do with the CONCEPT of communisim, which CONCEPT of capitolism is the topic, but almost everything to do with what the corruption within the actual practice of Communism brings... as well as the corruption within capitolism... corruption is the bad part of either concept
Do you believe in government regulations at least somewhat in markets?
Only with regard to preventing monopolies and cartels.
My man! Virtual fistbump! :)
Why you think its bad?
The system also screws over a lot of people who are genuinely trying to improve themselves and their living situation. A of people born into poverty won't get out of it even if they are trying to find a good job.
Equally it has caused the most amount of suffering and poverty. It is powerful no doubt.
@Soteris Bullshit. That title belongs to communism.
No it does not. Capitalism is far more widespread and simply has a longer history. Communism as bad as it is can't compete.
@Soteris you’re an idiot. Read a fucking history book.
Dude, Communism was a response to Capitalism. One pre-dates the other by necessity.
@Soteris Communism has killed 65,000,000 people. And easily 10x that in misery. Read a book.
Bwahahaha! You think that holds a candle to capitalism? It has existed for 400 years. Capitalism only needs to kill 162 500 people a year to equal that which is quite a low bar to overcome considering pretty much every country has contributed to that sum every year.
@Soteris bullshit. I'm done with your garbage. You're flat out wrong
Hahaha! Yeah, because it reminds you of how little you yourself know about history. I mean seriously, 65 million deaths by communism compared to 400 years of slavery, social collapse and brutal regimes? I mean the Dutch killed around 10 million Africans in Kongo alone due to capitalism and that is not to mention the slavery both in Europe and USA.Communism is but an unblemished spring flower compared to the bloodied history of Capitalism.
@Soteris You need a nice helicopter ride.
Hmm, this looks like a fun, friendly conversation of capitalism vs communism. Let me make peace between you two. The better system is obviously allegience to the cult of Cthulhu. While you can sit around all day, arguing whether capitalism or communism is better, Cthulhu's way is far superior than either.How so? Just look at some of the many reasons the way of Cthulhu is the absolute superior.-He’ll remove big money in politics by removing all “Masters of the Universe” from existence.-He will make immigration a thing of the past, but dominating the globe.-He will complete his terraforming project (AKA “Climate Change”) by 2025.-The economy is stronger when large amounts of the population are sacrificed.-Cthulhu will transform education by requiring courses in metaphysics and advanced non-Euclidean geometry as well as readings from unexpurgated and accurately translated copies of Al Azif, Unaussprechlichen Kulten, De Vermis Mysteriis and more-He declared on the world stage that “eldritch rites need human wrights.”-Experts say Cthulhu’s plan to eat Wall Street accountants is the toughest and most bloody of all presidential candidates.-Cthulhu will not monetize your misery.-Cthulhu knows that howling and bloodletting is the best strategy.-He will not hide behind human “firewalls.”A robust human sacrifice program will ensure full employment for America and all its conquered territories.-In today’s partisan environment, the only candidate that can unite all parties and persuasions in the insanity is Cthulhu.-After you are eaten, your effective tax rate will be ZERO. It's time for apocalyptic change! https://cthulhuforamerica.com/https://cthulhuforamerica.com/reasons/
Yup, capitalism and communism don't work at all. Time for anarchy! Welcome to the purge, how may we steal your families dignity? :)
Anarchy seems the worsy
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