"Isn't Fox News considered mainstream media though? "Yes, and it's a very small minority. Not ALL media is liberal, just the large majority.
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Nope, i tried the brainwashed argument before a few times to get the people to see what was going on. Lost it every single time i tried because the rebuttal is just a you can't look in my mind. Its a terrible debating tactic and i moved since to try and get to then by other means. Debating policy is far more effective than calling someone brainwashed.
Don't fall for the fox trap watch independent media as well like Tim Pool and we are change. Fox while one of the least bad is still catering to corporate interests.
Don't worry, I watch all of Tim's channels. I'm just saying that Fox ain't bad. I think Tim is better than the MSM, but Tucker is the best the MSM has to offer.
I'd agree, tucker is a bit of an outlier in that sense but i'm glad that as is not uncommon with trump voters you consume a wide variety :D
As per update... Yes, all TV news networks should be considered to be MSM
Quite the opposite, do you follow media and people from all sides? Trump supporters have a tendency to.
@sawno No they don't. trump supporters live in an alternate reality of lies and delusions promoted by propaganda networks and conspiracy theories on social media.
How about the russia conspiracy? How about the mailbox conspiracy? How about the 'mostly peaceful protests' riots? How about the people getting unjustly called far right? How about the slandering of nationalists as nazi's?Its not like the corporate media doesn't have a clear agenda and flatout lies at times. That is the problem with people seeking the voice of authority. They listen and trust blindly in what people in authority say. Which is a terrible idea if you value liberty.So i highly recommend not exclusively listening to authority figures. Consume media like Tim Pool, America Uncovered and WeAreChange.
@sawno how about russia? the mueller report and the senate intel report documented corridination between the trump campaign and russia. but concluded they were they were too stupid to conspire and too inept to collude.mailbox consipray? you mean trump sabotaging the post office? yes this is happening. has tim cast been lying to you about this?the protests are mostly peaceful. most people are not rioting.tim pool is a propagandist. this guy lies all the time like all reich wing media.it's unfortunate you can't see the irony that you've been brainwashed by right wing fake news into thinking legitimate journalists are fake news.
The mailbox removal is a fact, but that was because they are underused as part of a routine. There is no evidence Trump is behind it and they even stopped doing it. So yes, it is merely a conspiracy theory that Tim has debunked as such. Which automatically means i know both sides to that narrative, its not like I was kept from the truth.What conclusive evidence did Muller find? None as far as i know, otherwise we'd have known given how hard they tried to find something concrete.Corporate media are fake news, it is just a fact. Take the news channel in my own country for example, they claimed there are 250.000 anti lockdown protesters in berlin's protest. While in reality it was closer to a million. They lied about it being far right, while the march clearly had a broad political protesters including hare krishna's and left wing hippies of all people. Marching together with common folk and i am sure right wingers to.The media lied about you not being allowed to read wikileaks, they lied about the severity of corona. If you truly begin to fact check them they lie about a lot. Not realizing that and refusing to see it is the result of brainwashing. Believing the corporate media caters to corporate interests and is not truthful can be observed. And its not like they always lie, they tell the truth to. Its just an incredibly unreliable news source.
@sawno trump appoints a donor to the position of postmaster general who then starts removing sorting machines and mail boxes during an election that will have mass mail in ballots which trump has come out against.you don't think that alone is the least bit suspicious? oh but a propagandist lied to you about it and you believed his bullshit. so never mind.muller and the senate intel report showed coordination between the trump campaign and russia. there was collusion. but collusion isn't a crime. conspiracy is. there wasn't enough evidence to charge conspiracy because the trump campaign was too stupid to conspire.you're not even American? why the fuck are you even discussing US politics and listening to American propagandists? i'm not talking about german news.again the irony, of a victim of riech wing brainwashing discussing brainwashing by legitimate journalists.
That is the problem, they are not legitimate journalists and do not do legitimate journalism. If they did I would not be complaining. It is just a paper convincing you of corporate interests. But I don't think either of us is going to convince the other if we both do not like each others sources. I just hope anyone reading this is smart enough to consume independent journalism from a variety of sources.
@sawno Who has exposed all of trump's corruption over the past 3.5 years?who exposed his attempted extortion of ukraine for dirt on joe biden which was confirmed as true by his the phone call transcript trump released?who exposed the bounties russia put on US troops which was confirmed as true by the white house and wasn't denied by trump? He just lied and said it never reached his desk. (yeah right)it was credible journalists for the places like the NY times, the washington post, the associated press, etc.what's the hard hitting exposes right wing propagandists like tim cast have exposed? nothing but lying for trump, fear mongering and demonizing opponents.
Alright lets take the transcript then and settle this once and for all given i heard the transcript cleared him. Show me the transcript proofs he pressured ukrine and did not help them research bidens corrupt actions to investigate criminal behavior.
@sawno by the way, i went to timcast's youtube channel to see what bombshell news he's uncovered through his hard hitting investigative journalism, lol 🙄.How are you even going to call this news or journalism? every video i saw just selectively discusses a story he found on some other website that fits his narrative or agenda.every video is just his bullshit commentary on a story. that's not news, it's bias punditry at best, propaganda at worst.
He doesn't do newscasting anymore but independent pundatry is the point. This guy reads the news all day and thus has a view of what is going on and what the lies are. This means i also see corporate articles but at the same time his perspective so i can form my own opinion on both.Of course Tim has his flaws, he is still as accurate as his sources after all but he actually fact checks these stories so that has more value to me than reading outlets directly given he uses a variety of sources to contrast the same story and pokes trough blatent propaganda and lies.But regarding the ukraine transcript challenge i assume i'm right and you found no evidence trump did anything illegal?
@sawno he chooses articles to discuss that fit his right wing agenda. he chooses them from uncredible sources too like breitbart. he's not unbias. he's right wing hack with a political agenda.regarding the Ukraine scandal, see the impeachment and testimony from witnesses who confirmed under oath he extorted Ukraine for details.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Donald_Trump
Tim Pool is a Tulsi Gabbard supporter, he isn't right wing and uses all kinds of sources certified by NewsGuard. So your claim is unjust, and i never said Tim Pool is unbiased. But he is transparent in his own opinion in bias which makes it genuine.But I still have the same challenge, where in the transcript does Trump pressure Ukraine to get dirt on biden? Because from what I read he was merely trying to discover corruption and asking Ukraine's assistance in clarifying up some rumors.