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A man that stays at home as some sort of nanny and full time housewife as his wife provides for him and the family is a straight b#%* who isn't worthy to be respected as a man.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a guy staying home and taking care of the kids. Actually I think it’s kinda dope that he’s not pushing gender roles and thinking more about his family. Like here’s an example: you and your wife would rather your children not go to daycare and would rather they stay home until preschool or kindergarten (it’s disgusting how many horror stories I hear about daycares, but that’s another topic). You guys ultimately decide that as parents you’d feel more comfortable if one of you took care of the kids instead. So then the discussion is who can afford to quit their job? If the woman has a much better salary to the point that she could carry the household expenses, and the man stay home with the kids, does his worth as a man diminish? Definitely not.
I believe in good daycares. I don't believe a person's life must come to a complete stop just because thry have kids. Daycare are fun for kids and helps them develop socially and grow smarter being around many kids to experiment with.
Oh there are definitely good daycares, and i wouldn’t dispute that. It’s the ones where teachers are abusing children or allowing fights between kids to break out on their watch that begin giving daycare a bad name. Unless there are cameras, some parents have no idea what happens to their children and would prefer to avoid that experience altogether. And even if it weren’t daycares getting a bad name, childcare can be very expensive, especially for more than one child. A couple may decide that the best way to save money and/or have peace of mind, one of them needs to make the sacrifice and stay home.
Studies show that most stay-at-home fathers don't even act as a nanny or househusband, and that the wife still does the majority of the housework and childcare on top of working full-time. So most (not all of them) are not even househusbands, but leeches.It seems that most men need a boss holding them accountable in order to get things done.
@mistixs that’s a great point to add, because there are definitely those father’s that are zero help, letting their wives struggle and are complete leeches.
'Does that make him any less' A male is in general lesser than female.
You living without a man will automatically put you in the leadership role. Who's going to lead you and the household? The kids. 😂
Even if i lived with the dude, i like to be the boss 🤷♀️ Like i dont want a wimp but i wanna be the boss outside the bedroom
@DizzyDesiiThat doesn’t quite make sense. I don’t think it’s a matter of wanting to show you can step up, I think for you it’s a matter of wanting your way. You even mentioned you don’t want to be a wimp.I’ve heard you mention you’re a Christian on here before. What do you say about this:“Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.”Ephesians 5:22 KJV Before you answer, I can show you a lot of scriptures similar or the same us that one. That’s not the only place in the Bible this is said. If that’s what God’s word says how can it be disregarded, ignored or disobeyed by someone who calls themself a Christian? Now if you no longer follow God so be it. If you do, I’d carefully re-examine your theology on this matter.
@Exterminatore a lot of christians even have premarital sex when they shouldn't be. So im not going to go into the details of picking and choosing what i want to follow or not. Just know i said what i said but thanks for the input
This doesn't apply to single moms. And a woman can make more money than her husband, so what? Money is just paper to make ends meet and pay bills. The man's voice should be number one regardless.
"And a woman can make more money than her husband, so what? Money is just paper to make ends meet and pay bills. The man's voice should be number one regardless."The person who makes the money is the person who's financially responsible for the decisions of the household, and that's why they're given more authority.
@mistixs: No. People like to bring damn money into everything. There doesn't need to be money scenario who makes more or less. The husband leads. Period.
And if you're talking about heathens, then that's the damn heathen problems.
Male leadership doesn't make sense if the woman is the one who's responsible for the family's decisions. The man decides what to do & the woman pays for all of it? How does that seem fair to you?
Your belief in male leadership presumably comes from the bible but the bible has a very specific context: the man had more authority because he had more responsibility. If you rip the male's role as the primary provider out of the equation, then the male leadership role no longer makes sense.
@mistixs: Yes, the man is the one who has the final say in the decisions, but you're trying to make it about money which shouldn't be. When Adam and Eve were alive money didn't exist yet God already had it established that the man is the head of the woman. And you're wrong. The Bible doesn't say men have the authority because he has more responsibility. You made that up or heard it through human stupid philosophy. The man has the authority because God designed for men to be the leaders. Its a structure God set up to be that way.
Adam was the one who was working the land.
@mistixs: And Eve was sitting around all day looking at the sun? God created Eve to help Adam as God's word says not to be Adam's personal maid or sit around doing nothing.
Genesis 3 "17 And unto Adam he said, 'Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, 'Thou shalt not eat of it:' cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life"Why did God say this to Adam specifically?
@mistixs: You are talking about God punishment of Adam. God's original plan for Adam and Eve was for them to have dominion of the earth, reproduce children and keep the garden.
But if Eve was meant to equally provide for the family by working the land, then why wasn't that curse directed at both of them?
@mistixs: It was specific for Adam. The curse of Eve was to suffer pain in child birth and that Adam was going to rule over her, and her desire for was Adam. I'm pretty sure Eve helped her man grow and reap fruits and vegetables or do you think that is evil?I told you a long time ago, a man's primary role is to provide for the family such as substance and protection but that doesn't mean woman can't chip in and help the family with substance as well. The proverbs 31 woman worked and owned a business and provided for her household.Women have always worked in society even in ancient days as maids for the king in his palace, owned businesses like selling clothes etc.
Yes I agree, but the woman helping with providing for the family isn't the same context as the woman being the primary provider yet still having to submit to her husband's leadership.
That’s a healthy foundation right there.
Who the hell is talking about eating?
If she makes her own then that's her business. I won't allow her to spend and mismanaged our collective money women though.
You believe in the man should be the leader of the household?
no absolutely not, i believe that there should be no leader
U got a great head on ur shoulders.
Its a designed structure God set up to be that way. Its a role thing. In a music band all 5 can't be the lead singer. One lead sings, the other plays the piano and the other plays the drums etc.
God didn’t set anything up because he doesn’t exist.
God disagrees.“Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.”Ephesians 5:22 KJV
I don’t really care
@Exterminatore most religions are used for control not to mention those pushing it have already been voided of their beliefs based their own sins.
@BreadNbutterChristianity is all about control. Do not murder. Do not steal. Do not lie. It is good not to do these things right? So the same applies to husbands submitting to wives. The first thing God did was establish order. He established the laws of physics, gravity and many other things at the beginning during creation. He further established order by revealing himself and expecting obedience form us. That’s order. God at the top, man below God. God further established order by creating governments and also putting men as the head of the house. When we do things out of order, and do things in a way God didn’t intend them to work we have chaos. God created men and women for different roles and endowed them with different abilities for those roles. He created Eve as Adams helper, to assist him, not to lead or share the lead with him. The more we step away from a traditional society based on scripture the less happy women are. We have taught the women to act like men. Women have more freedom in America and the west and more privileges than any time or place before. Yet are the least happy now than ever before. Why is this? Because they are being forced or suggested to take up roles against the nature God created them for. One of those is attempting to be the head of the house. We now have an over 50% divorce rate, much of which directly correlates to this subject. In regards to pushing religion and being voided of beliefs based on their own sins, you lost me. Can you please clarify?
@Exterminatore common sense helps smart people to avoid all of those sins. And devoting you’re entirely life to a depicted religion won’t suddenly make things fall into place. If you’re going to study religion study the first religion that is led by the Egyptians. Christianity contradicts itself more than a little bit. One min women are equal the next they must fall behind a man. What if a woman never marries? She isn’t cursed for life. Why can’t we take under consideration a lot of the book was written during times of Great Depressions, people where in the desert most likely deprived of the many resources we have today. Pretty sure it’s easy to imagine a lot of these encounters with the higher being. one exists but if we’re going to break it down entirely god created us in the form of her? Women were supposedly the last thing god created... meaning god is a woman. We see a lot of nature pushing women rule too but you don’t see us trying to make men fall behind
@Exterminatore women literally create life... if anything we must behind you in order persevere our importance. Bet you hate hearing it flipped like that hun? Again this particular religion with others is used to control the masses not to enlighten and help us reach out full potential
@Exterminatore voided as in, you can’t sin at all or you’ll risk being a false prophet. I know for a fact you have sinned... more than once. Heck if I were to take under consideration what the “Bible“ says I can sin as much as I want as long as I genuinely want forgiveness when I feel the need to ask for it. It’s based off of one persons abilities to blindly follow the teachings of another. The min you start to truly meditate and seek answers you’ll begin to understand so many lies being promoted within this world. The combination that we happen to be is rare... not common but rare. We think though our job is to speak when it’s actually just to live without attachments. We perform rituals on a daily basis but can’t understand why the world is in shambles... again blindly following the next person.
I whole heartedly disagree with you.You mention the Christianity contradicts it self. There are different doctrines within the faith. I hold to specific ones. For example Catholicism teaches a works based salvation, most Protestant denominations hold to a salvation by faith through grace doctrine. We ended up with Protestantism because they took exception to certain catholic teachings. If you’re saying there are contradictions between denominations I can except that. I don’t follow any doctrine, teacher or denomination that does not squarely align with scripture. If you’re saying the Bible Contradicts itself please select a specific scripture and show me a 2nd specific scripture that contradicts it. I’m happy to hear you out but I require proof of such claims. I know of no contradictions.Wives are commanded to submit to their husbands. Nowhere are all women commanded to submit to all men. Only wives to husbands.God did not create us in the form of her. God is male. NOT female. Scripture says this:“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”Genesis 1:27 KJVNote it says in his image, not her image. This means he created them to be eternal beings as God himself is. He put an ever living soul into both male and female. No matter how much you want God to be a woman he’s a male. He is spirit. I’m sure he probably doesn’t have genitals but the characteristics of his personality are masculine, so he’s male. Jesus continually referred to God as his father:“Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”John 5:18 KJVFather - male. We have no female fathers. God is a male.However whatever debate one would care to have, that scripture shows Jesus claimed to be equal to God. Jesus was in fact male. Starting with facts and truth will help us have correct conclusions.
You’re Wong about other things.Sinning does not make you a false prophet. It says that nowhere in scripture. Paul the apostles himself said this:“This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.”1 Timothy 1:15 KJV Paul calls himself the chief of sinners and much of the New Testament was written by him. Elsewhere he says this:“For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.”Romans 7:15 KJV Paul here demonstrating his own struggles with sin and its power as he goes on to expound about the law of God and another law he sees working in his body - the law of sin and death. What Paul does say is this:“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”Galatians 1:8-9 KJV What scripture is saying is not you’ve sinned you’re a false prophet but rather if anyone teaches outside the doctrines Paul has taught those are false teachings, taught by false prophets. What scripture does teach is this:“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”1 John 2:4 KJVMeaning whoever claims to follow God and have a relationship with him, yet willfully and openly lives in sin is a liar. Why? Because the general pattern of life of a true Christian is one of obedience.Scripture says this:“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”1 John 1:8 KJV Meaning because someone is born again does not mean they live in sinless perfection from that point on. We all make mistakes. To think one has not sinned in some way since conversion is not true.
Scripture does not say you have a license to sin and then can be forgiven because you want to be. It teaches the exact opposite of that in fact here:“Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.”1 John 3:6 KJV This means whoever has the Holy Spirit in them cannot willfully live in sin. It DOSENT mean they can’t commit it sin as I’ve already established it means they can’t continually live in known sin. Why? Because the Holy Spirt lives in someone whose been born again. The Holy Spirit produces conviction of guilt when one who has the spirit sins. It also produces the desire to repent. One whose been born again cannot openly and willfully live in sin because they have been born again and their new nature is one that desires to obey God, combined with the guidance and urging of the Holy Spirit. One cannot for example claim to be saved, yet be a homosexual. One cannot say: “yes, I know the Bible condemns this but I don’t care and I’m gonna do it anyway and refuse to stop”. Oh, they may utter such words but I assure you one who is really born again would repent. They can’t intentionally live in sin without great internal distress due to the abiding of the Holy Spirit in them. Anyone who can just say: “I’m just gonna have fun sinning and when I’m ready I’ll ask forgiveness” probably isn’t born again, and one must be born again to go to heaven. Paul said this:“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?”Romans 6:1-2 KJVPays is saying: “shall we go on freely sinning so that God can increase grace towards us?” The answer is “God forbid!” Paul then states those born again are dead to sin. Not sure where you’re getting the concept a person can just live however they want and say a prayer and it’s all good, or worse yet pray for salvation then live in perpetual known sin willingly.
Scripture forbids doing such things.Jesus must be your savior, that is pay the penalty and take your punishment for your sin, but also you lord, meaning your master to whom you are obedient to.One who is born again loves the word of God. Those born again want to obey God, they hate sin, though admittedly they do stumble they don’t stay down nor do they desire to rebel against God but intentionally and habitually and willfully sinning. It’s impossible to be born again and do so I assure you.
So now having been exposed to what I taught you I’ll ask you. Where would you like to spend eternity?Scripture teaches if you’ve ever violated God’s moral law you’re guilty before God and subject to eternal punishment. Scripture says:“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.”Exodus 20:7 KJV Have you ever used the name of God as a curse word or in an otherwise common and unholy way? Like saying: OMG! If so you’ve broken Gods law and are subject to the penalty for doing so. Eternal punishment.“Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.”Exodus 20:12 KJV Ever disobeyed you’re parents? Of course! We all have and that alone subjects us to the penalty for doing so, eternal punishment. Have you ever stollen something?“Thou shalt not steal.”Exodus 20:15 KJV Then you’re guilty before God and subject to punishment.“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”Exodus 20:16 KJVEver lied? If so, again guilty before God and subject to punishment.But alas. What shall you do? Well that’s the good news or otherwise known as the gospel. If you know you’re guilty for doing these sins and many others, and you’re sorry and you want God to forgive you, you can be forgiven. All you must do is admit your guilt and ask forgiveness. You must then repent. Meaning stop sinning. Then you must make Jesus your Lord and obey him. There is no other way to heaven. There is no forgiveness otherwise only expectation of Gods judgment.So what will you do with Jesus? Ask his forgiveness and repent and accept his death on the cross as the rightful punishment for your sins? Or will you ignore him? Reject him? Openly and willfully resist him? That’s up to you but you know where to go and what to do now if you want forgiveness and eternal life.
@Exterminatore Yikes! You again are blindly following. Because a book tells you it’s so it suddenly true? There’s no proof the creator is male but it does in fact makes more sense it’ll most likely be female. As for the sins comment because you are without sin you’re aren’t able to judge, your religion says you can’t even fixate yourself into the lives of others. Yet here you are doing that. Copying and pasting scriptures and attempting to condemn people for not following behind you. If we were never taught this religion we’d all still be living and aware that it’s wrong to kill, steal, etc and so forth. Awakening is very necessary to becoming spiritually free you sound try it.
@Exterminatore lol I’m not a false prophet for telling others they can choose their own paths and be free from judgement outside of bible thumpers. There is no heaven and hell but humoring you we’d all be in the hot place if these teachings were true. There is though rebirth. The spontaneous reality that life can come from death. God disagrees with you not me.
I would love to see you turn from sin and follow Jesus. Eternity is a long time and the Lake of Fire is hot. I don’t want you to Go there. But you and I and all that have lived and ever will have trespasses against God. We’ve offended him. God is just. He must punish our sins, but in his mercy he’s made provision. Jesus who never sinned was sacrificed to atone for our sins. Believing in this and him, seeking reconciliation with God and obtaining forgiveness, along with repentance and a committed effort to live in obedience to the Lord is the path to heaven. That’s how one becomes born again. When God shows us our sin and we are shown to be guilty before God and we confess and repent and when we believe eternal life is through through Jesus, as he paid our sins, and believe he was who he said then we can have forgiveness for our sins and be reconciled to God. When God calls us and it is his will repent and be saved then we are lead to eternal life.So I ask you humbly, what will you do?
Scripture says God is male. Either we believe what it says or we don’t.Do you feel no conviction regarding what I’ve said? I know the Holy Spirit testifies these things are true. You make many claims about what my religion teaches. I’ve given you direct quotes from scripture and have explained them to you. Where is the evidence for your claims about what my religion teaches? I’ve given you evidence to the contrary.I’m not attempting to condemn anyone. I have no heaven or hell to put you in. I’m simply relaying the message that Hod exists, what his standards are, about salvation and Judgement. I’m not God and didn’t write the Bible. I’m just telling you what it says.If you tell others they can live as they want and that contradicts scripture, and they can still avoid judgement, then yes, you’re a false prophetess.We all are headed to the hot place from birth, some of us will be rerouted, most won’t be.Anyway, I’ll end the conversation here. We have different beliefs. I don’t believe what you do. You reject what I believe. I have no intention to push the issue. I’ll respect your will to believe as you’d like and won’t push the issue.
@Exterminatore who said I’m a sinner? I was raised within the Christian religion and it’s pretty obvious church goers are leeches. I have yet to meet anyone more judgmental and self serving than Bible thumpers. Stop assuming all must be wrong when we don’t side with you, it must be tiring to live in fear of everything you do all day everyday. When I was like you I couldn’t do anything without humoring a sin... what can you watch other than church all day long? Anything too fun was considered a sin. Any opinions that differed from your parents was a sin. Are fat people sinners for being gluttons? Isn’t it wrong to want to look good? You must gouge your own eyes out if you see something lustful and find it arousing... it’s so obvious you have to laugh. Anytime you made a mistake you were condemned... it’s extremely unrealistic and anyone who constantly promotes this is literally lying through their teeth. It’s cool and all if you search for religion in order to get a better understanding of life but if you truly believe that book is without flaw especially knowing its man made reveals how much you really can’t think for yourself. I could manipulate someone like you easily... and simply ask for forgiveness later according to you. Trust me you knowing your version of God wouldn’t stop me from succeeding. Hell I can claim I did it out of survival and as long as it fits the bill with my mentality then I’ll be good. I have yet to touch rape... is that all apart of Gods plan? Turn the other cheek type ish?
Why not? And give specific reasons.