It will be interesting if Trump wins the popular vote and all these blue states are forced to vote for him.
@genuinlysensitive At least he would have been elected by all the people.
You can state that all you want but that doesn't change the fact that a republic is a system of government while a democracy is a form of governing and the two aren't mutually exclusive.
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By the way, I also calculated the maximum possible difference between electoral vote and popular vote. I don't remember the exact number, but I think it was in the 70s % of popular vote, but still lose the election. Realisitically it could never happen because it required such extreme circumstances - like winning the large states by exactly one vote, and getting zero votes in all the other states. Or maybe it was the other way around.
The states that would loose out:All 48 other states other than NY and CA.
It’s stupider to be 37 and not understand we are a representative republic, not a democracy.
@joeldalton And it's downright idiotic at any age not to realize that a republic is a system of government while a democracy is a form of governing and the two aren't mutually exclusive. When the founding fathers dissed democracy, they were talking about direct democracy (people vote on laws), not representative democracy (people vote on politicians who decide laws).
And as such the electoral college is critical. So STFU.
@joeldalton How does that add up?
@joeldalton You must have been born without a butt hole. Since America isn't a democracy but a republic, why are you still here spilling stink from your mouth. Go a be a pet to your representative because you are worthless and don't count.
Haha, you dumb cunt. You whining asses didn’t give two shits about the electoral college till Hillary lost. You’re nothing but sore losers. You didn’t win so you want to change the rules.
@joeldalton Yeah, no one was complaining about it before Hillary lost, all you have to do to make a case for that is to look at the date this video was uploaded.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90RajY2nrgkBut yeah, we want to change the rules because we're "sore losers" just like all those people who wanted to get rid of those literacy tests in the 1950s and 1960s (who were the "real racists" because they thought black people couldn't read). Now go spit some BS about how "the Democrats were against the Civil Rights Act".www.politifact.com/.../
LMAO, you think Adam Conover is insightful political commentary? Lol. I noticed you are getting off on a stupid tangent. So I'll say it again, you lefties didn't want the electoral college gone until Hillary lost.
@joeldalton Yeah, that's why that video was uploaded in 2015.
Give props to him, apparently he's psychic.
Wow, one whole lefty commentator. You convinced me.
Versus your baseless conjecture that nobody cared about it before Trump won. Here's the irony: that people only care about it because Hillary lost is speculation but we can say for certain is that the person the GOP elected to represent them would have been against it if the shoe was on the other foot.
Not at all. I support the electoral college as an American institution critical to our republic. Regardless of who wins. It's called having principles. You should look into it sometime.
@joeldalton And I oppose it under the principal that many countries are federal representative republics that have a head of state elected by popular vote so the idea that it's a "critical institution" is utter BS.
You oppose it only because you know it benefits democrats.
@joeldalton Nope, you're just contriving hypocrisy again.
lmao. So your reason "hrrr well other countries do it" is even stupider. At least have the intellectual honesty with me.
@joeldalton Yeah, because we know that your premise that it's needed to maintain a constitutional representative republic is utter bilge. You just want it to give your side an unfair advantage (a form of authoritarianism); own it.
Yet another fucking stupid statement. Every democrat president won the electoral college. I support the institution. It doesn't give either side an "unfair advantage". That's the point.
@joeldalton They also won the popular vote making your point moot. And it does give one side an unfair advantage if it gives more electoral voting power per person but you just feel entitled to more voting power because your side couldn't win otherwise.
The fact they won the popular vote is moot. Next.
@joeldalton The reason they're against the electoral college is because it can go against the popular vote. DONE.
The united states doesn't elect presidents by popular vote. So again, moot point.
@joeldalton Yeah, that's the problem, by your logic, any case for changing a law is a "moot point".
That's not a problem. You're like someone at a football game going "It's not fair that a touchdown is 6 points and a field goal is only 3 points. We should make a field goal 6 points because sometimes a team scores but doesn't get as many points" The electoral college is there to protect the smaller states from the tyranny of larger states. You have no problem with the tyranny of the majority. But that's nothing new.
@joeldalton No, I just have a problem with the tyranny of the swing states over the rest of the country but I'm not surprised that you're in favor of that given that you want more power to be in the hands of private tyrannies and are only against it when it's accountable to the public. But given that the US has several different population centers all with their own geopolitical interests, the tyranny of the majority argument is rendered *ahem moot.
LMAO. Your reply is so stupid.
@joeldalton Nope, you just don't have a case (because there isn't evidence of the "tyranny of the majority in countries where the head of state is decided by popular even when there is only 1 major population center).
I do have a case. The electoral college is there because we are not single nation. We are a collective of individual states. Each with it’s own government. We’re united under a federal constitution and agreed upon government. But each state is independent. So no state gets to tell mine what to do. The electoral college is critical to maintaining that balance. But considering how much you understand most of our government, I’m not surprised this is your stance.go away now, you’re an annoying pissant.
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