This is about choice
Not at all. You do not have the right to do anything. If you believe you do try "going into a delly and urinating on the cheese." -Vandals.
The beauty of the 2nd amendment is it isn’t needed till someone tries to take it— Thomas Jefferson
Exactly, the US amendments are great examples of power limiting documents.
"Thomas Jefferson" Nah.
The original question is why do people think it's okay to ban something... Guns was an example. I'm pro second amendment, I was explaining why we ban in general, not specifically guns.
You do that
I agree but why? Don’t they agree with America’s freedom of choice?
They don’t care about choice when it’s something they don’t want. Guns, abortion, different enemies with the same methods of trying to ban it. It pisses me off to no end
Scroll Down to Read Other Opinions
Other countries don’t have a right to them like the USA does though do they? Are you saying you want to take the right and freedom of choice away?
... Why does that even matter? It is still a problem and you still need to fix it somehow. Hiding behind excuses such as "its a right" and "freedom of choice" does not make it less of an issue.
It is a right and you want to fix it by taking that right away?
Well it was never supposed to be a right in that context and its clearly causing severe harm to your country so, yeah. I want to change it.
Yes it was. It was actually to give the people a defense of a tyrannical government
The beauty of the 2nd amendment is it isn’t needed till someone tries to take it away— Thomas Jefferson
The 2nd amendment was actually part of an idea to replace the standing army with a force of militia. They did not want the government to have an army which they could use to for example control their own citizens or start wars with other countries where as militias can only be used defensively. They were also of the opinion that given a strong militia it would be impossible to defeat the country in a war.The 2nd amendment was not meant for fun and games and it was never intended to result in there being more guns than people not to mention the complete lack of control.
That isn’t true. It’s a constitutional right period and you have no way around it. Once again you want someone else to take away your freedom of choice. If you don’t want one then don’t buy one. Who are you to tell me what I need for me?
It is true though. The 2nd amendment was written as a compromise on the subject of a standing army, state militias and local militias to ensure that the government could not control militias and by extension use military force to oppress the people. It had nothing to do with peoples rights to bare arms in a broader aspect, not that this should even matter. The 2nd amendment is old and out of date with modern problems. It just makes sense that it needs to be revisited and adjusted along with the changes in the country itself and that applies even if you think the 2nd amendment gives you a right to own arms.Also taking away freedoms is hardly rare in the USA. I mean for starters convicts and ex-convicts can't use their constitutional right to vote and are used as actual slave labor, which is legal by the way according to the constitution."Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"Truly a paragon of freedom right there.
Guns aren’t going anywhere in America so get used to it
There is no "getting used to it", are you forgetting that you have a problem? It sounds to me like your bias towards gun ownership blinds you towards social issues as well as the death and suffering of actual people compared to hurting your feelings.
There is no problem
It’s freedom of choice. If you don’t like them then don’t buy one
Yes there is and you saying otherwise, especially while providing no evidence, is not going to persuade anyone much less me.
They’re here to stay like it or not.
Good argument right there. No reason to do anything about homeless people, poor people, rapists, murderers and all the other social issues. They are here to stay, get used to it. You know what I say to that? Coward.
Blame democrats. Look at shithole California. Most unconstitutional gun laws and yet the most homeless and drug addicted and would rather help illegals than their own
No I blame you. You dont want to do anything about it.
Democrats can’t do anything about it because they’re too incompetent. Again look at California. Completely democrat controlled and look at it. A laughing stock
If I had a choice I rather be incompetent than the one who ignores the problem and pretends everything is alright.
All I can do is vote and I didn’t vote for the Democrats you did
... Its a democracy. You have the power to change the country. Power of the people and everything. You are just getting more sad by the minute.
Again I vote. I didn’t vote for the do nothing Democrat’s in California
Voting is literally the BARE MINIMUM you can do. If this was a competition your effort would simply earn you a participation award.
I don’t see you doing anything to change California
Who says I care to change it?
I don’t want California to change either because it’s an excellent example of what Democrats actually do
Ouch.. You dont want California to change because you use their human pain and suffering for your political advantage. You are really a terrible human being aren't you?
You don’t want it to change either and yes I will drive the point home with suffering. Obviously the Democrats don’t care either
I said I do not particularly care, which is true, but I never said I wanted it. Its just not my business. You made it your business when you decided to exploit them and for all things you exploit them for political gain. Disgusting.
And who are you? If Americans are so incompetent then why are they the only superpower and have the oldest continuous form of government in the world?
We don’t have unregulated sales and events like Sandy Hook are extremely rare out of a population of 330 million
We have more mass shootings than any other country. And unregulated sales happen all the time. A guy escape a mental instution go to a gun show and get an AR15.
So all mental patients are automatically killers? There aren’t other countries with shootings because their governments don’t give them the freedom to choose
You have proven what I’ve stated. You don’t want the freedom of choice. You want Biden to choose for you
Legal gun owners have about 300 million guns and about a trillion rounds of ammo. If we were the problem you’d know it
That's not it. But even though accidental or spiteful shootings happen about 50:1, you wouldn't give up your "freedom"?
No I won’t give up my freedom to choose
Well we could choose to live in a world with stricter fire arm laws. But I bet you wouldn’t feel as manly.
How much stricter do you want them?
You understand laws only affect law abiding citizens. It has no effect on criminals.
The Left. Remover Beto saying “hell yes we’re going to take your AR and AK” that isn’t just a ban it’s confiscation
Uh huh, "the Left". Is that an organization or something? And are you a member of "the Right" then?Anyway you named one Democrat and he was advocating for banning specific types of guns. Not all guns. Do you have any more examples? Maybe one of someone advocating for actually banning GUNS, as in all guns?
Yes Biden wants to ban semi autos, ban hi cap magazine’s though he never says what hi cap is, ban internet gun and ammo sales. Yes I am a right winger. A ban is a ban doesn’t matter if it’s a specific type it’s still a ban
Well, that's like saying cocain being illegal but alcohol not is the same as both being illegal. That makes no sense. But anyway, so whe you said "ban guns" you didn't mean guns in general.Biden said that? Well, then I hope he'll do it. But I kinda doubt it, especially without a majority in the senate.
Yes he did say that so I proved you wrong.
So you’re against freedom of choice
I want your address so I can stick my dick in your pussy
Proved me wrong? I never claimed he didn't say that. You're confused. I said if said that, I hope he actually manages to get through with it.
Yeah, we're all against freedom of choice. You are too, just in other areas and issues. So don't act like you're advocating for complete anarchy. That would be hypocritical and retarded of you. (Would not surprise me though.)
Oh, so you're gay? Damn, that must be tough as right-winger. The cognitive dissonance must be intense. But hey, good for you that you're open about your homosexuality and not supressing it!But here's the thing. You were just threatening to rape someone. Like any sane person, I'm against the "freedom of choice" of people to rape others. Crazy lefty me. 🤷🏻♂️ So you're an insane person who's okay with rape. Wel, I think you pretty much lost this "debate" with me.You're FIFTYNINE year old guy who calls himself "Vulvalicker" on an internet forum and threatens other guys to rape them. That's how pathetic your whole existence. This is so fucking sad, dude. I genuinely pity you. You're a very lonely guy who never fully grew up, aren't you? Never had a proper partner, never had many friends, never experienced true love and compassion? Am I right? I'm sorry, dude. But your penis substituting guns will not make this pain go away, I can. promise you that. So you might want to rethink your life.I'm going to block you now (for the rape threat, you know). Try to make the best of the rest of your lonely years, try to not let all that hate inside you dictate your life. Bitterness is a disease that slowly kills you. And you seem to have falen very deep into the bitterness hole. Maybe it's too late for you. Good luck!
It’s still a choice and that’s nothing like health insurance and the 2nd amendment
Well to be honest you should only have muskets.And they aren banning all guns just attachment and some automated guns
One of the things pro choicers will not comment on is why don’t they give up for adoption?
Who are you to decide what I need? Where is the freedom to decide for myself?
This is what America is supposed to be but Dems, liberals and socialist want to take away freedom of choice. You know nothing of guns. Fully automatics are already banned
Yeah freedom of choice. But you wanna take that away from women
They don’t have to keep the baby. Besides a child isn’t all theirs
The only opinion from girls was selected the Most Helpful Opinion, but you can still contribute by sharing an opinion!