97% of alimony payments are made by men, should feminist be fighting to make that equal?

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50/50 on both men and women you because we’re “equal”

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Brokenheartedx | 940 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

I do not understand alimony must be an America thing, iread it on another question and answered.
To me it's greedy, the ex has no intention of getting off the porky fat arse and get themselves a job but rather scrounge of their ex forever... that's right a parasite.. If I had children with ex, I'd say well I need enough to cover food and clothes for the kids which is child support and that's different.. But taking money from ex to live life of extravagance, that's a piss take
If I married and divorced id want nothing.. I work I earn my own money why would I want anything to do with an ex let alone his money? Its disgusting!

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chris_987

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So feminism should fight to get rid of it
Brokenheartedx

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Men and women should stand together to get rid of it... Nothing to do with feminism, more to do with the unfairness directed at men
chris_987

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Well I’ve been told feminist care about equality so why not change something that isn’t equal
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Brokenheartedx

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I'm not a feminist, I do know wrong doing though and alimony is just wrong
chris_987

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I agree but if it exist then men can be afraid to end up depressed because they have to pay a girl they don’t even like anymore.
ShootShootBangBang

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Why would they just get rid of feminism? What about all hate groups? MGTOW and Red Pills believe in blaming rape survivors instead of the rapist, they don’t believe in child support, alimony, they do not believe a sector of society deserves the same basic human rights. What kind of a woman are you? I’m a dude and I still see how ignorant you are.

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chris_987

So feminism should fight to get rid of it

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Brokenheartedx

Men and women should stand together to get rid of it... Nothing to do with feminism, more to do with the unfairness directed at men

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chris_987

Well I’ve been told feminist care about equality so why not change something that isn’t equal

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Brokenheartedx

I'm not a feminist, I do know wrong doing though and alimony is just wrong

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chris_987

I agree but if it exist then men can be afraid to end up depressed because they have to pay a girl they don’t even like anymore.

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ShootShootBangBang

Why would they just get rid of feminism? What about all hate groups? MGTOW and Red Pills believe in blaming rape survivors instead of the rapist, they don’t believe in child support, alimony, they do not believe a sector of society deserves the same basic human rights. What kind of a woman are you? I’m a dude and I still see how ignorant you are.

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MzAsh | 3.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Influencer

Not if the husband asks for a stay at home house wife.
My husband wouldn’t have to pay me alimony. I’d have more money and I’d be the one taking the assets.

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chris_987

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Why would a woman choose to stay at home unless she plans to get alimony later in life
MzAsh

1 y
Some women prefer to devote their time to their kids at home and being the role of the homemaker.
chris_987

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Yeah if you choose to stay at home, the man should know that he is responsible for her, but society isn’t like that anymore, even men in common law relationship end up paying for alimony
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ShootShootBangBang

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You’re full of garbage. People get married with the intent on staying married. You’re a bum for putting women down too. Weak azz
MzAsh

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Yeah but statistics show most married people don’t know what they’re doing regardless of what their intent is.

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chris_987

Why would a woman choose to stay at home unless she plans to get alimony later in life

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MzAsh

Some women prefer to devote their time to their kids at home and being the role of the homemaker.

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chris_987

Yeah if you choose to stay at home, the man should know that he is responsible for her, but society isn’t like that anymore, even men in common law relationship end up paying for alimony

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ShootShootBangBang

You’re full of garbage. People get married with the intent on staying married. You’re a bum for putting women down too. Weak azz

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MzAsh

Yeah but statistics show most married people don’t know what they’re doing regardless of what their intent is.

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tartaarsaus | 7.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Master

The alimony system in itself need not change. If it works properly, it’s distributed (or at least it depends on your country) on the basis of which person has a large decrease in disposable income. Those tend to be women due to often maternal obligations and different career changes.

Hence, women get alimony because they generally earn less. They’d get less alimony if they’d earn more.

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chris_987

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They choose men that earn more money, so why fight for equal pay
tartaarsaus

1 y
The fight for equal pay assumes that there’s a structural difference between men’s and women’s wages that is due to discrimination as opposed to choice by the employee.
chris_987

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If a woman doesn’t lift as much as a man should she be payed the same?
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tartaarsaus

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Again, the idea of that wage gap is that there is a wage difference beyond choice or performance but due to discrimination.

And for the record, there is a lot of evidence that performance and choice in e. g. do not explain like 5% of wage differences between men and women.
chris_987

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That fact you couldn’t answer my simple question tells me how far left you are lol
tartaarsaus

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I’m not even left. But your later question was just ridiculous.

The entire point was that the fight for the wage gap is about there not being a choice or performance thing determining wage differences and then you ask “but should performance determine wage”.
chris_987

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Performance doesn’t determine wage? You literally get a raised based on your performance. So by lifting more you can out perform your co-worker. Which why my question is valid. But if you think it’s ridiculous then you and I look at life in the same way so there no point in having a discussion about it.
tartaarsaus

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Yeah true, I should have said that they do not fully determine the wage, but that’s pretty obvious if you pay any attention to the entire debate on wage gap.

And no, that question was clearly not valid given that I literally stress in my answer they argue things beyond performance/choice determine wage
ShootShootBangBang

1 y
I’m not in a physically demanding job and I’m making more than a woman who has more qualifications than I do. Stop being a one sided selfish man child.
tartaarsaus

1 y
So what?
ShootShootBangBang

1 y
Was talking to Chris about pay disc.

Answer 15

chris_987

They choose men that earn more money, so why fight for equal pay

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tartaarsaus

The fight for equal pay assumes that there’s a structural difference between men’s and women’s wages that is due to discrimination as opposed to choice by the employee.

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chris_987

If a woman doesn’t lift as much as a man should she be payed the same?

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tartaarsaus

Again, the idea of that wage gap is that there is a wage difference beyond choice or performance but due to discrimination.

And for the record, there is a lot of evidence that performance and choice in e. g. do not explain like 5% of wage differences between men and women.

Answer 19

chris_987

That fact you couldn’t answer my simple question tells me how far left you are lol

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tartaarsaus

I’m not even left. But your later question was just ridiculous.

The entire point was that the fight for the wage gap is about there not being a choice or performance thing determining wage differences and then you ask “but should performance determine wage”.

Answer 21

chris_987

Performance doesn’t determine wage? You literally get a raised based on your performance. So by lifting more you can out perform your co-worker. Which why my question is valid. But if you think it’s ridiculous then you and I look at life in the same way so there no point in having a discussion about it.

Answer 22

tartaarsaus

Yeah true, I should have said that they do not fully determine the wage, but that’s pretty obvious if you pay any attention to the entire debate on wage gap.

And no, that question was clearly not valid given that I literally stress in my answer they argue things beyond performance/choice determine wage

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ShootShootBangBang

I’m not in a physically demanding job and I’m making more than a woman who has more qualifications than I do. Stop being a one sided selfish man child.

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tartaarsaus

So what?

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ShootShootBangBang

Was talking to Chris about pay disc.

Answer 26

ShootShootBangBang

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Women don’t make as much as men. That’s why they get alimony. by the way plenty of men are getting alimony. I think feminists fighting for the wage gap to decrease has increased men gettjj in big alimony payments.

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chris_987

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97% doesn’t seem fair to me, and if women made more money than men they wouldn’t find any man attractive
ShootShootBangBang

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Due to men’s rights activists they are getting rid of it anyways. Alimony is calculated based on income. Women generally sacrifice their career to raise children and take care of the home. What you’re saying is if you decide to cheat and beat like most men did before alimony she and the children would be penniless. Want fairness? Fight for everyone’s rights, not just men’s. Men take money from women all the time.

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chris_987

97% doesn’t seem fair to me, and if women made more money than men they wouldn’t find any man attractive

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ShootShootBangBang

Due to men’s rights activists they are getting rid of it anyways. Alimony is calculated based on income. Women generally sacrifice their career to raise children and take care of the home. What you’re saying is if you decide to cheat and beat like most men did before alimony she and the children would be penniless. Want fairness? Fight for everyone’s rights, not just men’s. Men take money from women all the time.

Answer 29

ThatQuietLass

Xper 6

Yes.
No one should enter a relationship without wiling to give 50/50, and that includes coming out of a relationship.

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Answer 30

Anonymous

Women don't play fair.
Modern feminism is about supremacy.
It's why the concept of equality is a joke.

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97% of alimony payments are made by men, should feminist be fighting to make that equal?

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