That’s why the topic is controversial, most people believe it’s totally dismissing Asian culture by labeling them as white, but white people aren’t oppressed while Asians are, we don’t know if the purpose is to hide that fact and create a bigger divide amongst the other POC (person of color, so black, Hispanic, Asians, natives).
Oh i see. Well personally from what i see as an Asian it doesn't seem like a dismissal of our culture as much as categorizing all nonwhite as POC (which is racist af). This seems more like creating a gap bet POCs and white people by trying to exaggerate the achievement gap of the whites. (uhh i hate calling people by their color) But that is just my opinion based on the little I've read. I should probably read more lol. But thanks for sharing this. Interesting post. 🙂
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The point is that they aren’t being considered Asians anymore but just grouped in with the white. So if they see an Asian female, they’ll dismiss them as a white female instead. It’s just controversial in the sense that they’re kinda ignorant about it. I heard a few arguments on why it is a bad thing but yeah sorry for rambling you’re the only person who answered this question 😂
I just get tired of people being over sensitive and looking for problems.Nobody's ever going to confuse an Asian person for a white person.I don't even like the term Person of Color because people don't come in that many colors.It all sounds divisive.I'm a white person that loves Asian people and would live in Asia if I could.I just get annoyed when people shame Asians for being whitewashed or too white or acting like a banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside).It's all offensive to me as a white person who tries to be accepting and loving to Asians.
Yes I agree, Asian people are great, I don’t think race defines anybody, but people believe that this whole situation is to create a bigger divide between other people of color and white people. If a whole ethnicity is labelled as POC and they are now considered not, the POC community has less people therefore once again “inferior” and that’s why people are upset. Also as an Asian myself, I’ve experienced so much racism that a Caucasian person probably hasn’t so being classified like that is kinda dumb. I’m not overly upset with this, it just feels off I don't know
So are you looking at POC as being part of a team against white people?Like you feel bad that black people will have less POC's on their side if Asians are seen as white? LoL!That's what it sounds like.Why can't everyone be a POC?Do we not all have color or different shades?Why do these divisive terms have to exist?Where does your idea that POC will be "Inferior" to white people if they lose numbers come from?Do you realize that you sound like you're actually racist against white people and don't want to be associated with them, but would rather be grouped in with other POC?Do you understand how hurtful that is to white people?You're essentially looking to create a divide.
The term People of Color and using it to separate people shouldn't even exist.It's divisive.
I didn’t say I believed in that, I’m saying that that’s what people are arguing about. Jesus Christ read please. White people will never be discriminated against and that’s just facts. Do you not understand that POC are always oppressed historically and white people aren’t and were always seen as superior? How’s that hurtful to white people? I love people of all races white black whatever, but I’m just saying the minority voices might not be heard because of this. Like you realize that you’re sounding racist too right? By not acknowledging the fact behind the history of what POC means.
When are you going to live in this time?You seem hung up on this idea that you are so oppressed because POC were historically opressed.If you think I can't be hated, disrespected, unfairly judged, stereotyped, generalized, disregarded and discriminated against right now because I have lighter skin than you, then you're not being realistic.I'm not the majority in every situation, everywhere I go and white don't own and control absolutely everything.White people aren't the only racist, biased people.The soon you realize that and let go of your divisive mentality you will be making progress towards true equality.You don't get that by dividing people.
What about mixed race people?My son is half white and half Asian, am I supposed to label him as a POC now?Does he have to fit into one side or the other?These labels just confuse and further divide races.They're obsolete and counterproductive in my opinion.
That wasn’t even the question at hand. It’s not about being POC or not, it’s about whether or not it’s acceptable for Asians to just be considered white. I feel like you’d completely change your opinion if it were black people who were considered as white, the problem is that black people and Asians aren’t white but what are your thoughts if they’re just considered to be white? It’s totally dismissing their culture
I don't like divisiveness at all.Obviously I married an Asian woman and have a mixed race child myself.I don't believe in segregation even if It's just in the form of separating people into categories based on the color of their skin.I don't see the benefit.Black people and white people should be seen as equals.Same with Asians and other ethnicities.I'm very much about having people mix and live together in harmony all treated equally and held to the same standards.I don't see it as dismissing anyone's culture.The world is changing and becoming more mixed and multicultural.I honestly think categorizing people by their skin color is out dated and basically racist in itself.
I don't think Black or Asian people should be seen as white or POC.I think either option is problematic.
Yes I agree we should be accepting of all cultures and ethnicities and they’re all seen as equals but pretending that you don’t see color isn’t possible. If you see an Asian girl you know they’re Asian, doesn’t mean anything but we’ll always see different colors or different races
White people have color too.Mixed race people are made up of different races.I think that term is stupid.Black people are black people, Asian people are Asian people, white people are white people, mixed people are mixed.They should just leave it at that and stop that exclusionary POC bullshit that's nothing more than systematic segregation.
It's racist, it always was.
That’s the term they used in the article hence why I used it as well, I never intended it to be “racist” I used it for convenience of terminology. Sorry for the misunderstanding
Yes we all bleed the same color, we are all part of one race, the human race. But you can’t lie and say you can’t differentiate people based on their ethnicities regardless if it’s irrelevant
Yes POC is person of color, by definition white people aren’t included within that group
Well they certainly SHOULD be. In fact, POC should not even be an existing THING, since ALL skin has a particular color
Dude that’s not the idea of POC, white people aren’t people of color and that’s how it’s been
Putting all races, but whites in a group as People of Color is not only excluding white people, but also dismissive of their individual cultures.Labels are never a good idea and POC is particularly toxic for everyone.
Okay but white people have never been inferior in all of history, it’s not excluding them, it’s just that they aren't POC like I don't know why you’re pissed about it. People of colour are people of color. White people aren’t people of color. That’s like saying “oh why are only black people classified as darkskins? That’s excluding every other skin color” like that makes no sense, you are what you are and it’s not meant to be toxic. Yes labels suck but you can’t lie and say that you don’t see color, you can tell the difference between an Asian and a white person, the whole “I don’t see color” is just bullshit. No it does not matter what race you are, but totally dismissing it is still racist. Asians being considered as white is dismissing the Asian culture.
First off you're being a hypocrite.You can't say that lumping Asians together with white people is dismissing Asian culture if you also support lumping Asian people together with other races as "People of Color." That's just as dismissive of individual cultures.Secondly White people are not actually white.We come in many different shades and have a variety of hair and eye color.We're very colorful so stop trying to exclude the pink, tan, white people from your little POC party.That's discrimination.
You’re not understanding the definition of POC, chris. Color does not mean ACTUAL COLORS LOL not pink and orange and shit. It means different races, the MINORITY of races. Search it up if you don’t understand what POC means
POC was a term given to blacks by white people.It's old and racist and being called Colored was never a good thing. It's ridiculous that anyone still uses it.It's not even accurate.I honestly feel like you have some deep resentment towards white people that you're harbouring and you genuinely want to fuel division.Why can't I just be Caucasian and you be Asian?If you isist on being the colorful one, then I want to be acknowledged for my blue eyes.From now on I am the POB (Person of Blue).
Blue refers to cops by the way. Anyway, THE POINT WAS THAT I be Asian, you be Caucasian. Not us both be Caucasian when I’m not Caucasian. And never insisted, that’s just the term. I don’t wanna keep typing out “black, Asian, Hispanic, native” when I can just say POC. It’s way faster. We don’t want division, or racism, but we need to embrace our differences as well.
POB can stand for Place of Business or Post Office Box and now Person Of Blue.Nothing to do with police.You are Asian, I am Caucasian and some are half Asian, half Caucasian.You're use of POC is weird to me because I have no problem calling people by their individual races, nationality, ethnicities.I think it's more respectful to acknowledge their individual cultures rather than dismissing them all as POC.I do agree we should embrace each other rather than find reasons to separate.
I think we totally misunderstood each other, I didn’t mean to use POC in a bad way, and I now know you didn’t mean to make it sound like we shouldn’t embrace each other but rather to just assimilate into one. I used POC because that’s what the article used, yes of course it’s more respectful to just acknowledge their individuality rather than classify them as a whole, I just used it because it’s easier and that’s what was used in the article, I wouldn’t personally use that in general. Lol
Thank goodness.I really love Asian women and I was getting worried. I'm glad we can understand each other and get along.Thanks for the interesting conversation. 🙂