yes, bravo for your knowledge, Napoleon is an heir of the revolution besides he also inherits revolutionary wars, oh you are monarchists you hate Napoleon much then lol
I don't hate the man. I just don't support him or his ideals. He was still a brilliant tactician and brave commander.
his ideas are those of the French revolution, what better idea for man than the motto of liberty, equality, fraternity? lol
Don't forget bread. XD How about: truth, justice, and love. The French revolutionary ideals were born out of hatred and wrath, equality in that everyone had to have the same standard of living, which isn't justice, "liberty", in that no monarchy was to exist but instead a gathering of commoners with legislative and executive authority, we all saw how that went, and fraternity in that everyone had to agree and love the revolution and the new nation of France, or be beheaded. Hardly born out of true solidarity.
The problem is that no regime is perfect, Napoleon tried to mix the old regime with ideas of the French revolution, he brought the civil code to countries where there was still serfdom, no being is perfect and no diet either, I love the kings of France and the Republic, because it's still the history of France, I take the both inheritance lol
No regime is perfect, but that's a strawman argument in the context. There are still better and worse ones! And in my own opinion, Napoleon's codes were too liberal. Which merely serves to enslave people to other ideals than the former. During these times I support the conservative monarchist forces of primarily Great Britain, and the other kingdoms of the coalition.
which text esy too liberal? morals or the law the hatter? moreover if the civil code you find it too liberal then you cannot support the English monarchy it is the incarnation of liberalism, moreover it is the fault of the monarchy the french revolution, the french monarchists often forget to remind it
I don't see how the English monarchy is the "incarnation of liberalism". And during the Napoleonic wars Great Britain represented conservative values.
first the French revolution was influenced by the philosophers of the Enlightenment, who themselves were a great admirer of the English monarchy, against the absolutist French monarchy. On the one hand, liberalism can be conservative, in particular by opposing at various times popular pushes of democratic and radical spirit, as we see in France under the July Monarchy, or, at the same time, in England. vis-à-vis Chartism. England will take a liberal, financial turn with its revolution called by them glorious revolution. And lately the French revolution finished the work of the monarchy centralization, and the English do not hate Napoleon because of the revolution but because he does not want a country to dominate the European continent. Sorry for m'y Bad English lol
While that is true, simply because a few enlightenment icons thought well of the Crown it doesn't make it a liberal institution. But its very nature it is conservative. England has certainly had various periods of inclination towards other sets of beliefs, although I would describe the Glorious revolution as a mere continuous power struggle between the monarch and parliament, which did not end with the revolution, rather than a liberal uprising. I never said the English hated Napoleon for the revolution, he wasn't its architect. But Great Britain sure did not want that kind of societal upheaval to reach their shores, which was entailed with the French revolution, the British were loyal to their monarchy.
If the discovery of America had changed the fate of England, placing it at the heart of the promising transatlantic trade, the revolutions of 1648 and 1689 were the political prerequisite for its economic orbit. England established its July Monarchy more than a century before France. The younger branch replaced the older Stuart, and set up a parliamentary and aristocratic regime, where the king reigns but does not govern, and where the censal suffrage protects the interests of "fifteen hundred and fifty thousand egotists" (Talleyrand). The Cromwell episode enabled an open English "establishment" to find in the divine fury of the Old Testament the necessary blessing for its mundane affairs. It is the reign of freedom that is established, sheltered from divine tutelage. While the English aristocrats imposed a parliamentary monarchy on the king, the French rebels failed and laid the groundwork for a decisive strengthening of the absolute and centralized monarchy.
and no it's not because of the revolution, they wanted to keep what the English call the European balance, and have the monopoly of trade, that's all, the revolution and its ideas were going to conquer Europe and threaten the monopoly of English commerce. everything else is wind, only their domination and their commercial interest interested England. England is carthage lol
Exactly, Napoleon was a threat to the Balance of Power, which is what Great Britain sought to preserve as they weren't keen on being under the subservience of revolutionary Paris, Napoleon himself, albeit ironically, hated monarchy.I'm aware of England's history pre and post-Stuart deposition. The Hanoverian's furthermore, being a German house, had little love for a French despot. And whilst the Glorious Revolution cemented a magnified parliamentary role in executive authority, the split power between Crown and Parliament began already with Magna Carta in 1215. The House of Lords had considerable influence of both legislative and executive affairs already in the late 16th century. Napoleon wanted to unify Europe under a French flag that still carried with it the echoes of the revolution, ideas of the enlightenment, such as secularism and materialism.So while it is true that their main concern lay in the commercial sector, their monopoly on trade and so forth, they also saw Napoleon's conquest as a threat since only a few decades earlier, Britain emerged victorious from the Seven Year's War as the new Hegemony of Europe and most powerful nation of Earth. So an all conquering Frenchman, which was a result of the revolution that cannot be denied, was causes in themselves to oppose the revolution. Especially as it inspired Britain's losses of the American colonies as well.
I just wanted to show by this example, that England was economically liberal, moreover one of the great thinkers of this liberalism will be John Locke, who will influence many philosopher of the lights and even the founding fathers of the USA. For me, the English did not attack France, because of the liberal ideals of the revolution, if France were to remain a monarchy and the French monarchy wanted to dominate Europe again, they would not accept and would have to finance the other European countries to attack France, it's just a question of domination, the European balance wanted by the English allows them to ensure their domination. But I appreciate the debate with respect for everyone
Have they ever spoken to you about Louis XIV?
A little bit
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"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair."- Opening lines of "A Tale of Two Cities".
That's not what it was about. The guillotine was used primarily on the upper class during the revolution.
Ouch :D It was somehow the other way round.
@andreasderjuengere Not during the revolution, the revolution was all about getting rid of the absolute monarch aka KILLING them, you know?
@Jonathanlama right? I'm still learning my french history.
@lanadelrey25 That's what I had in mind.
@andreasderjuengere Good, I thought I was right, You are from France so I hope you'd know lol. I have strong French heritage so I'm trying to learn more!
1780s so around our revolution but didn't end for decades.
French révolution 1789
Same time as ours.
Why are her tits out?
yes lol, but hey the revolution gave us Napoleon lol
Watch the Oversimplified video https://youtu.be/8qRZcXIODNU
@EyesOfGod that’s a good video! Thanks for sharing
Oops I accidentally clicked the answer button before. My phone is fucked up. So it's basically one of my fave historical periods with some really interesting history figures. (Marquis de Lafayette, Robespierre, Danton) It started on July 14, 1789 with la prose de Bastille, when rioting citizens of France destroyed the Bastille, cause they were unhappy with the monarchy and the economic policies of King Louis the 16th (The peasants had to pay heavy taxes to the king and the nobles and were subjected to forced labor). It's really important because it led to to the Declaration of the rights of man, which remains the corner stone and influenced most modern-day republics. Unfortunately their revolution didn't go as smoothly as the one in America. In France there were a lot more beheadings, the Reign of terror, then a dictator,…and then some more kings, and then an emperor, Napoleon
for you the dictator is Napoleon
He was an emperor, right? I don't know if he was a dictator or not, I'm not French, so I'm not qualified to judge French history, I just know the basic events lol
Yes exactly emperor, not really dictator, authoritarian regime yes but it was necessary
The English didn't like him a lot and exiled him twice
Yes, but the English have spent their history looking for war at the France lol, but for the island of Elba it is not so much the English c is more the Russian Tsar Alexander, and Napoleon will manage to escape from the island lol