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the article comes from Mediapart, a French extreme left newspaper
I completely agree with you, I was only quoting this article that I had read, I was not expressing my personal opinion
How is Spain not white?
Sorry I didn’t read your summary. Yes I’m getting real fed up with this egregiously racist “only white people and white countries are evil” bullshit.
Spain isn’t exactly white. Western European but not English white. But it’s that empire was purposely omitted to focus on very white people only. So sick of it.
haha no problem, I also find it very boring, especially since these are the three countries which have given minorities the possibility of being able to live in peace in society
Good lord bro. How much of piece of shit do you have to be to do colonialism and imperialism apologetics? I bet you tell black Americans they should be thankful for slavery as well.
@TerminallyChill very well thought out and factual response there. So intelligent.
Can't be any less intelligent than saying you should be thankful that people pillaging your natural resources and humanity for centuries gave you electricity as a tangential result.
How rare it is to find a person without an agenda and just tells history like it is such as yourself. The amount of revision in this question would be disheartening if I actually expected anything from humanity.
Yes, on the other hand you can also make the argument that all this is part of the past and those who are alive now aren't responsible for it. Yes we do have to live with the consequences resulting from the actions done in the past, but you can't walk up to a portugese guy and make him responsible for Christoph Columbus discovering america which lead to the genocide on the aztec and mayan people by Cortez.Even the Holocaust which is fairly recent, is already a thing of the past and no german alive today had anything to do with it (maybe one or two survivors are left.)Remember history so it doesn't repeat itself, but look forward in the future and deal with that problems.
That's a very reductionist view of the situation. The behaviors, ideologies, culture and apparatuses of oppression people perpetuated in the past still have vestiges in and effect the present. That Portuguese guy might not have colonialized anyone but the white supremacy mindset that global European colonialism has indoctrinated the world with plays into his thought processes, decisons, business practices etc... Because make no mistake the neocolonialism of Africa, South America exists to this day and has never stopped. The only reason the Western World has the quality of life it has is because it has been doing regime change, proxy wars, extrajudicial assassinations, coups and deposings across the entire non-white world to exploit their mineral wealth, land, natural and geopolitical resources for the last 600 years.I'm sorry to say but History is directly responsible for and has to be rectified for the present and future, there is no blank slate or carte blanche, like how white Americans pretend the legacy of last 500 years of denying black people jobs, housing, humanity, education, literacy, an honest living, doing secret scientific and chemical experiments are going to go away overnight and that there's any even close to resembling an equal footing in society, that's a denial of basic logic. This is Historicism 101. History is present.
Oh yea, also responsible for hundreds of coups and deposings of democratically elected leaders across the entire world.
but all of those things were good, the past 75 years since the CIA began doing its work have been the most peaceful in all of human historyyou're just mad that the communists (who did the same thing) lost
@007kingifrit Yeah that's clear trolling. I'm going to have to block you if you reply to me with nonsense.
everything i just said is true, you can't respond because it defeats your communist worldviewthe past 75 years have been the most peaceful in all of human history, a peace established by the American global order of bretton woods
@007kingifrit This you? static.wikia.nocookie.net/.../Troll-face.jpg
Prager U? Lol, you might as well have memes to make your argument.
@TerminallyChill <------ take note everyone; the leftist cannot argue points, only labels. it doesn't matter what pragerU's argument is because he is programmed with an "us vs them" mentallity. this is also a side effect of the left's optimism roots as optimism withers against arguments and thus the leftist is hard coded not to argue, but to accusethank you @TerminallyChill for being our monkey today, anytime you want to make a fool of yourself with bad arguments i will be happy to respond to, analyze, and chastise your comments
It's very illuminating of the Asker's agenda that they upvote every opinion that is the same as their agenda but down votes all the ones oppositional to it.
In terms of history, USA hasn't been around long enough to even be considered the most criminal, though you must account for the fact that things we consider criminal now, were not always criminal. And things you might deem criminal are in fact not.
For me none of these countries are criminals, Yes slavery is a horrible thing, yes colonization is a bad thing and I think interventions in the Middle East are mostly mistakes. But if we look closely at history, all peoples practiced slavery, conquest, etc. Or we have to consider mankind as Criminal
@Tyrael The CIA has been around for a blink of an eye and has done more harm than intelligence agencies that have been around way longer. Do you know how many hundreds of coups of democratically elected leaders the USA has done in the name of exploiting developing regions geopolitical and natural resources. You seem very ignorant
@TerminallyChill sure, that still barely stacks up sorry to say. You seem very ignorant if you aren't aware of what other countries have been up to in history.
Nah. I'd say you are, the only reason I said what I did is because of extensive research into colonialism, neocolonialism and western geopolitical intervention. You really have no idea how much shit lays at the feet of American alphabet agencies and it shows.
Right pal, it's just the rest of the world you're ignorant of then.
Not at all. You're just triggered and feel attacked becausr you're white. History and facts aren't racist. Every race had committed atrocity but it's clear to anyone with a google search function who has wreaked and continues to wreak the most havoc worldwide.
What's my race got to do with anything? You're the one bringing race into it, that's clearly your thing not mine.
🎵What's raaaace got to do, go to do with it baby🎵
Yes, and in addition they forget to say all that these 3 countries have brought to the world.
Great point! Slavery was still legal in some middle eastern countries until the 50's i believe.
I am not for repentance
Yes Yes lol, you have to be honest slavery and colonization are horrible things but the whole of humanity has practiced it on all continents, but it is only often that these 3 countries point the finger and they forget to say all that these 3 countries brought to the world
They blame every European country for one thing or the other. Disgusting degenerates and nation wreckers. The three pillars of white guilt: colonialism, slavery, jewish holocausthttps://www.bitchute.com/video/ysJDDxIsUog/https://www.bitchute.com/video/5nnLhmXN8IU/
Yes, it's true
I knew you would be okay with that lol
Ofcourse :) thanks for asking this question :) merci (France)/merci (Romania) ;)
Haha you know I don't agree with that lol😂
Not even russians and Spanish agree on that or all the other nation, but they are still ther in the top ;) :P
But France is still on top for wine and cheese ;)
Yes except that we have helped Romania, Poland and the USA😉 And You should also look at the side of Africa which had a character like Shaka zulu
I think Poland will disagree for the last help you give them in 1939 and olso not save them from comunist time.
I speak with a Polish and he is grateful to France for what she did for her, but what do you want us to do against Russia our army was unable to face the ussr
France and UK agree to protect Poland (that includ olso USSR), availeble for Romania as well.I olso talk whit some polish people here in UK (London), they hate germans and russians first and then they hate you guys for not helping them, give up to them and olso didn't save them from the comunist time and olso changing theyr border from 1918. Accepting Molotov-Ribentrop Pakt.
For the Napoleon they have more respect, that's true.
Wait, your Polish friends forgot to tell you that France has welcomed immigrants who come en masse from Poland, how do you expect that we can help Poland when we were already weak, we had to save France first. I am also astonished that you are so much in favor of the British, whereas the British completely made fun of your country and preferred to make agreements with Russia and the Ottoman Empire, and Napoleon 3 had to fight for a long time.
We also helped Lebanon, we had to establish relations of St Louis
I don't suport UK, i'm here because i already know English and GBP are bether then EURO.No they didn't forgot to say about the people who run in France but they apreciate much more Hungary and Romania who open directly the borders in the time of the invasions, the Poland govarnement and king run throw Romania to get in London UK. So France have no direct implication here. Olso France surend right next to Paris, how far is that city from Belgium/Germany, you guys refuse to abandon Paris and move the capital more in soud west like Romania didn in WW1 to show our loiality for you guys (UK, France)., but you guys didn't do the same in WW2, UK run like some pu**y and France give up. Your general (sorry for the wrong name) Sar de Gol (olso president later) blame you guys for giving up.
France has given Poland enough, and even financially, Poland could never return the favor to France. And we have helped other countries, even Lebanon they call France the tender mother
Thous Africans and Asian countrys as soooo poor that they can't survive whidout france been the shuger daddy. France will never be able to overcome that moment of surender from 1939.
And Romania has recovered from having been invaded by so many countries? And will Romania be able to live in peace as long as there is Russia?
As long Russia give up to expansions, adopt a democrat regim, let Romania to unificate whit Rep. Moldova, give back national treasure that they confiscate in 1917. Yes.Russia now, is an expansionist country because of : Crimea, Abhasia, Osesia, Transnistria.Russia is a totalitar country, Putin is president for life, no more election in Russia and ther are not legal protest.Russia still holds a significant part of Romania's treasure in Moscow, gold, works of art, historical treasures, etc.Russia refuza sa isi retraga armata lor din tara sora si vecina a Romaniei, Republica Moldova. Din regiunea Transnistria. Acestea stationeaza ilegal pe teritoriul acelei tari.Thous are the moust important conditions to start be again friends whit Russia like before yare 1812.
Romania had recover from Turkey and Hungary ocupation from yares 1914, but we didn't recover from the comunist time and our problem from the WW2 still exist even today, we are the only country in East Europ who didn't succed to undo the Ribentrop-Molotov Pakt.
a bether question for you to get some compliments from me to France will be, "What do you like abut France". ;)
qph.fs.quoracdn.net/...ab9d0dc2fe86b9cda08496.webpLook what they did to theyr poor country. :(
qph.fs.quoracdn.net/...ab9d0dc2fe86b9cda08496.webpLook what they did to my poor country :(( This hirst for both of us even thill this days.
Russia will never agree to return anything to Romania. Personally, I think it is in France s interests to ally with Russia. What do I like in France? Its history, its culture, its landscapes, the fact that I live in a free country, the fact that I can also get treatment without paying huge sums of money and in addition, often reimbursing me for medical expenses. that we have 5 week off a year, and I'm probably still forgetting things
If France will ever alliey whit Russia will fall in Polish and Romania eyes even more."What do you like about France?" I mean "you (the poeple who will answer)" not you personal.
Haha ok lol I didn't understand. If the esteem of Romanians and Poles for France is lost, is irrelevant because everyone has to defend their interests. The French will not be so sad about the loss of esteem of these two countries. Anyway, I don't think it will happen because for the moment our president only thinks about human rights. Which is ridiculous
I think ther will be international consequences if France allies with Russia in today Russia's political situation. I doubt that the USA will accept a collaboration of France from Russia, also the UK after the internal scandals with the Russian spies. Ukraine, Baltic States. Just be upset with the English and see what Gibraltar and Suez close to you. Major EU and American economic sanctions.I would not see you as a politician worthy of leading France to glory with such plans.But I would have a more reckless plan to force you to show yourself the real face in the world. I mean all EU and NATO members. ;)
Always dream because first of all economically without France the European Union would collapse of itself because Germany cannot bear the economic weight alone, secondly we could make alliances not only with Russia but also with China which is also allies from Russia. We could also play our relations in Africa you have we control their currency with the CFA franc so they would have every interest in being Gentile with France
USA will not be happy to let you guys get in the enemy side. :P :)
You do realize that stems from the imperialism neo/colonialism of some of these Western nations, correct?
the roman empire was not a nation state
Okay then. How do you define the word "country?"https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/countryBecause I can't think of any real difference between England and the British Empire and Rome and her empire.
Finally, wouldn't it just be human who are mean?
It’s human to embrace tribalism and religion which makes genocide an easier choice.
and the worst countries ever, china and russia
Spain would still be among those 3 if not for Civil Wars, Franco and autonomy issues. They had too much internal strife to continue to external imperial conquest
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@TerminallyChill Spain got screwed so bad by Franco, set them back decades.
Yeah but I'm not going to complain though. The less European colonial powers, the better.
Yeah Russia, but for these people of the extreme left there is uniquely a three countries that is nasty lol
Surely lol, they forgot to say all that these 3 countries brought to the world
@jonathanlama Follow your logic backwards though, where did these countries get the resources and labor to bring these things to fruition? It's no coincidence that the industrial and scientific revolution happen POST global European colonialism.
European countries were already further ahead before colonization, and colonization was bad business because it was far from having enriched France
Ok. So don't address anything I said.
You say false things, France never makes the African pay a tax of 500 billion
@jonathanlama Oh really? www.eriswiss.com/.../I love moments like these where I can visibly display someone's ignorance and retardation.
@TerminallChill I know this info that has been circulating since at least 2016, come on I want to be your teacher today, this so-called "colonial tax" and one of the rules of the operation of the CFA franc. This effectively provides that the two central banks that manage it, the BEAC (Bank of Central African States) and the BCEAO (Central Bank of West African States), deposit 50% (and not 85%) of their foreign exchange reserve with the French Treasury. Thus, these two central banks "had in 2005 more than 3,600 billion CFA francs from the French Treasury". Or a stock of around 72 billion euros, and absolutely not a flow of "500 billion dollars" brought to the French Treasury "every year"Above all, this is not a tax paid by African countries to France, but a deposit. Thus, as economist Kako Nubukpo, former Togolese Minister of Foresight, who is also very critical of the CFA franc model, explained, "nothing prevents the countries concerned from using it to support their growth". Thanks to me you will not pass for 🤡, 😘😘
Are you retarded? This is France hording African resources for no reason other than these countries being a former colony. It's a "colonial tax"
You can dress it up however you want but it doesn't change the fundaments
TerminallyChill Hey my baby clown, there is no colonial tax, it is a deposit which is due to the operation of the CFA franc and it can be used by African countries for their development, We do not steal the wealth of Africa we pay them and in addition without France or other countries, Africans would be unable to extract these resources
@TerminallyChill TerminallyChill Hey my baby clown, there is no colonial tax, it is a deposit which is due to the operation of the CFA franc and it can be used by African countries for their development, We do not steal the wealth of Africa we pay them and in addition without France or other countries, Africans would be unable to extract these resources
@TerminallyChill France has in no way "plundered" the raw materials of its colonies. Quite the contrary. This is the surprising finding that allows us to draw up the terms of trade between France and its colonies. Again in the case of Algeria, after improving during the crisis of the 1930s, Algeria's terms of trade in goods went from index 100 in 1949 to index 124 in 1960. Proof the deterioration of the terms of trade for France: from 1948 to 1954, if the tonnages imported into Algeria from France increased by 135%, Algeria's exports to the metropolis increased by only 32 , 5%. In fact, in many cases, France bought colonial raw materials above world prices. Admittedly, these premiums, which amounted to 25% for Algerian wine, had the utility of allowing traditional industries (such as the cotton industry or that of soaps or Marseille candles) to easily sell mediocre products on protected markets. But these facilities thereby contributed to making these sectors less suited to international competition, and to weakening the overall competitiveness of the French economy.So many observations which led the best informed minds and the driest accountants to wish for the premature severing of the links which united France to its colonies. As early as the 1930s, some businessmen were already asking themselves the question. Sent on a mission to black Africa by the Colonial Minister Paul Reynaud, in December 1931, a young financial inspector, Edmond Giscard d'Estaing, father of the former President of the Republic, wrote on his return that he was worth better, "for the very future of the country, to do nothing rather than swallow up funds destined to go to waste, if they [were] poured into an economy which was [not] made to be used in the right place and productively ". This was to take up the argument of liberal economists who, half a century earlier, had opposed the conquests.
"It is a question of knowing what these new outlets are worth and what they cost us," wrote Gustave de Molinari in 1898. "What would one say of an industrialist or a merchant who would spend 100,000 francs in costs each year? of traveling salesmen, circulars and advertisements to place 100,000 francs worth of goods? It seems that he is not in good health and his family would be advised to have him banned, or at least to force him to give up trading. "This was indeed the case for France. We can even say that the French Empire, considered above all as a market intended to protect French industry from competition, slowed down its modernization and ultimately did more harm than good to the metropolitan economy as a whole. .
@TerminallyChill : Israel = People still fighting for their survival. A country with a 20% Arab minority. Where are the Jewish minorities who lived in Arab countries for centuries? They were expelled by the Arabs. But thanks for reminding the world that hatred of Jews is common among the Extreme Left.
What world do you live in?
@TerminallyChill: Earth, not the alternate universe you live in. Why was Al Sharpton the most-frequent visitor to the White House when Obama was President? Anti-Semitism is more than OK with the far left.
Obama and Al Sharpton are far left? LMFAO. Now you've really went and jumped the shark. Yeah the guy who made Bush's tax cuts permanent, passed a republican healthcare plan, bragged about being a warhawk, supported cops, shit on Unions, allowed peaceful protestors to get their arms blown off by militarized police at the behest of corporations is far left. Again, you live in a fantasy word bro. I just engage with you because it's fun to troll you but come bro.