What do you think of MGTOW?

[Lionman95]

I think one can´t general assumption about them. Not wanting to be in a relationship doesn´t mean to be lonely it just means that they want to be in a relationship with a female because they don´t trust them. I can understand why guys do that, it´s not choice or a way I would go, but I understand why they do what they do. We live in a society where people like to call relationships to be one of the ultimate goals of life. Relationships are called to be love but at the end of the day many marriages are ending in divorces. Guys are going their own are giving up on women because they don´t understand females, they don´t want women want and are actually looking for. It´s pretty hard to not stop looking for a relationship if you always get rejected. Look truth in the eye, some guys are more interesting for women than others and everybody who´s single for a long time starts blame-shifting.
The way I see is, there are some people better at communication and socialisation and there are people less gifted in such things. Women are naturally more gifted in such things than men. Some guys are better and some are worse in this. Naturally speaking guys not being at communicating their feelings and their character are more likely to become incels or single all their life.
Not can they not say what they want but they also have a bad body language alltogether which turns girls off because want somebody who is also their for them and who can show empathy. That´s something guys shy and introverted guys either don´t know or understand because they see all the women tend to the lady´s man who might be a jerk switching like other people underwear but he´s still gets all the women because he has an open body language.
The problem shy guys also have is that they often are called "Nice-Guys" and those guys have a bad reputation for just wanting sex or being perverts. Something can be true but it´s nothing that´s only true about shy guys/ "Nice-Guys".
I feel sympathy for them because I was called an incel myself for pretty long time just because I wasn´t interested in dating through my school years and I´m a rather shy guy who openly admits being addicted to pornography in his youth.
I don´t think there is anything wrong about MGTOW unless they turn in somekind of terroristic groups or are looking for ways to harm other people. They should be allowed to do and think what they want about society and life.

[Not_Average]

I used to hate on them, but as I've gotten older- I understand. It's not for me as I love having women in my life, but you have to understand how hard some of these men have been burned in divorce. Are judicial system in a lot of states always seems to favor women when it comes to divorce. I've heard of women cheating, leaving, taking the kids and all their money. If a man says I'm not going to date women after that, then I actually understand. I'd most likely just date casually and do my own thing. I would describe it as protecting yourself emotionally and fiscally rather than being sexist. They aren't perpetuating harm onto you. They're just staying away from you romantically.

I'm sure it's easy for you to imagine that these men are just sexist, if you're a decent woman yourself. There are A LOT of nasty ass manipulative narcissistic women out there though. It's becoming more and more common place with progressive society messing with gender roles and allowing women to get 1000s of likes and DMs on a daily basis telling them how beautiful they are and how they have all these men that are willing to do anything for them. That tends to get to anyone's head. It did for me when I was bodybuilding. These types of women will discard of men like garbage even if they've had a multi-year relationship.

When I was working in law enforcement, we did get a lot of domestic disturbance calls. I was shocked when I saw the disproportional amount of female aggressors in contrast with men. When the woman is the domestic abuser, she tends to have control over the male emotionally. She knows that if she presses certain buttons, he'll collapse emotionally and lose his cool. He'll yell and scream, and then she'll play victim.

My girl works as a clinical psychologist and she see's these traits in younger women more and more. So while I surround myself with quality women and love the women in my life, others have been less fortunate. I have absolutely no moral dilemma if a man just wants to avoid women romantically if he's been burned.

[gabzz001]

I don't have a problem with the general premise of a man going his own way. The issue is that most of these men who identify as MGTOW fall under the same umbrella as redpillers, incels, and PUA's. They spent their entire existence obsessing over what women do and end up being misogynistic pricks. If they were really going their own way they would shut up and focus on fulfilling their lives in different less toxic ways

[MsLivy]

Like feminism, do your own think whatever makes you happy, just dont throw it in my face

[JackSmy]

I hope it IS NOT, like "Feminism for Men" as that would mean that "feminism" is some kind of ANGRY, opposite-gender HATING kind of thing!! I don't want to believe that!!!
From what I can understand, from these pathetic, D-Bags, is that they BLAME women, because they can't find someone to 'FCK'!!!
Like a Woman, a LADY, is some OBJECT, and SEX-toy for these, that probably cannot even get it up, without pills!!
They are an abomination, and shameful part of the male gender, as they are clueless, and blame women, because they are such losers, that no woman would want to be with them!!

[Jjpayne]

As far as I'm concerned it's the new freedom of relationship or single choice. As much as we have gender identity, we have many types of different relationships as well. I don't always agree with them it terms of my choice per say but I simply know they exist for others as a choice. People have open relationships as a choice and that's just one part of relationship or single choices.

I personally think I'd rather be with one woman and have enough single women that I would be able to find one I could connect with

[AFellowWeeb]

I don't consider myself part of it, but i sympathise with them. The date game for men these days is really bad, we are not allowed to have standards. For exemple:
Woman - i want a loyal; tall; fit; good income; with licence; own house; good in bed man that is willing to marry me and treat me like a queen.
This woman knows what she wants, that is empowering;
Man - i dont want to date a loyal girl that doesn't have a body count of +3 when she's only 20, neither overweight.
This man is sexist, and is oppressing women, misogynist.

[Anonymous]

Good philosophy, albeit not designed to last (or rather it's not meant for the majority). It's more of a practical philosophy meant to deal with a problem, not so much be an all-encompassing creed. That said there are some historical similarities which are interesting.

"I still think the whole concept of being forever alone because of your own sexism is quite sad though."
The point is that it's because of *other's* sexism, but yeah. It's unfortunate. Some simply don't survive such problems, i. e suicide. So at least they're taking a decent approach to the problem here.

[crmoore]

I haven't looked into enough to be particularly knowledgeable about it, but I think that it's kind of silly. If you don't like a certain type of women, find other women. That being said, it might be difficult depending on where they live, but to say you're given up on women is pretty silly. There are plenty of women out there that would fall within their preferences.

[Anonymous]

A broken clock can be right twice a day, but that doesn't make it any less broken. MGTOW and Feminism are cancers. Even if some members have positive attributes they are traps. God designed men and women to work together and for a bond in marriage. These groups attack God's design and aren't consistent with Jesus' description of marriage.

[Random_Guy_Online]

I think it is good in a way because it brings to attention a lot of things guys are disadvantaged at compared to women. I notice these things in my life, so they definitely are there. Feminism is supposed to be the equality of sexes, but it seems like feminists want to be treated better than men in a lot of ways. MGTOW tries to balance this imbalance created by feminism.

I'm not a member of MGTOW though. I like girls.

[TeeBar]

You are correct in describing this crowd as a " bunch of sorry ass men being losers". They are incapable of dealing with females on a day-to-day basis so they retreat behind this pathetic defensive behaviour.

[havingfun101]

They have lots of fun hobbies?

[ETfoneh0me101]

I think it's another acronym for people to put in their Twitter bio. I don't buy what they're selling.

[Anonymous]

Well you're right about MGTOW being feminism for men. That's exactly what it is. And considering what feminism is today, do you blame men?

[Whitemeatchicken]

I feel sorry for MGTOW, Red Pills and angry feminists. All it is is hate wrapped up to look like gift. Open the box though and you’ll find hate.

[TallAnon]

They've been around for years, they don't hurt anyone afaik, so I don't really give a fuck.

[Anonymous]

I find them funny, especially their obsession with women.

[Gedaria]

Not knowing what?

[OddBeMe]

Incels for those avoiding stigma.

[Mijopapii215]

They are pathetic.