sounds a lot like the leftist...
@The_Sal I mean, its facts. Facts dont care about your feelings.
leftist and their cultural appropriation pushes away people wanting to celebrate other cultures. cultural appreciation will slowly rot away till there's nothing left and it'll just be one single culture. the super woke everyone is racist culture. we will all be too afraid to use chopsticks because the leftist will hunt you down and murder you. everything the left does touches is destroyed. like the nazis..
yeah you don't get it.still swallowing joes lies drop anfter drop 😊
@The_Sal How old do you think the cultures around you actually are?
@The_Sal Its alrighthe has difficulty comprehending the negative consequences of other nationsdefining their cultural attitudes as accepted or a preservation of the wholeWhile, the Westerners doing the same thing (or perhaps being far more open) will be defined as Nazis Just ignore him.
@The_Sal ^ If you need anymore proof of that friendjust check out his conversation with me in the answer I gave hereIts the double standard commonly appliedI am relatively LIBERAL myself.. I voted for Bidenand supported Bernie during the primariesI greatly dislike Trump and view him perhaps one of the most inept (if not THE MOST) Presidents in historyHowever, I recognize the double standards applies by the leftbe it through cancel culture, the generalized terms of "white supremacy, nazism, racism" that have slowly lost meaning in a society that will remove someone from their job for not putting pronouns in their twitter bio.. or call out someone as transphobic for not wanting to date a transwomanThat will openly spread hatred and generalizations of the right.. from the firing of Gina Carano by Disney (but the protections of Pascal and Ireland)to the "Get rid of your Whitness" classes to Coca Cola employeesSome of the Left has lost its mind.. and has little to no basis in realitythey use equality to spread hatredand them make false claims about Western nations (THAT ARE.. the most free/progressive/accepting nations on the planet by nearly every metric)while support the brutality and crimes of other countries on the basis of their "cultural preservation" or whatever the nonsense isSome of it is stupid
@GearsofHalo117 Oh please, do try defend what he just said as anything other than ranting garbage with no coherent narrative.
Specifically in this conversations and his comments1. I do agree Cultural Appropriation is destructive (and often misguided).2. Ultimately if you deny people the ability to "appreciate" another culture on the basis of their ethnicity (lets say a White man enjoys Jazz music.. by the Barnor Hesse definition pushed in New York public schools he would be a "White Voyeur" I believe.. I might be wrong.. there were 8 White identities sent home to parents).. THIS helps no one3. Using the term Nazi gung ho as it tends to be used in todays society does nothing but create divisionWhat we are doing NOW for the sake of "equality"is 1. Dividing up groups (basically segregating).. and limited the ability of groups to intermingle out of fear of cultural oppression.. or cultural appropriation.. WHICH in itself tends to be misguided (take the "Black Hair" issue.. indeed a cultural aspect of the black community... but Europeans ALSO had the same hair during the "tribal" days).. So what?2. It labels people on the basis of their race... nationality.. ethnic background etc.. WHICH isn't particularly that helpful3. Through much of this conflict... We teach Whites to hate themselves (For example, they teach White Privilege to elementary students in some American schools).. and we teach Blacks their dependence and inabilities through suggesting they have no individual way of succeeding at their aims due to some mythic oppression. None of this helps.
@GearsofHalo117 Nothing you said applies to the original question, my reply to the original question and The_sal's reply to me.
^ I literally just discussed the points he brought upand the pointlessness of using the term "Nazi" to benefit your political beliefs.
@GearsofHalo117 Hahaha! Sure. Where exactly did I ever mention cultural appropriation? Furthermore where did I apply the word "Nazi" without prefixing it with a factual reason why? I specifically wrote my original answer to be factual and devoid of my personal political views mind you.
@GearsofHalo117 you called us nazis for 12 years lmaonow it's pointless? 😆
He mentioned cultural appropriation and @The_SalI actually defending some of your postsbut if you want to be that wayforget about it manguess I support Soteris in this chatMy apologies.
Forget it it @SoterisClearly I misread this oneYou are indeed correct with @the_salMy apologies.
To be clear with @SoterisI was merely making points about @the_sal second reply to youand making commentary about how I supported some of those ideologies pushed by him (in regards to Cultural appropriation) and also specifically the misuse of the term "Nazi" as a derogatory term against dissenters to whoevers beliefFOR EXAMPLE calling all Trump supporter Nazis (who are a complex group of people)or someone like Gina Carano a "Nazi" because someone doesn't agree with her politicsThat was my pointnothing else.Though clear @the_sal immediately disagrees with me because of my own stated political beliefsand didn't realize I agreed with most of his postFor thatI don't really have an interest in continuing the conversation hereclearly too much emotion... and thick heads
@GearsofHalo117 I'm so confused. sometimes I just read through the threads and skip names
@GearsofHalo117 soteris is the cultural appropriation worshiper right?
@The_Sal How would you know? I have not said anything on that topic so far.
soterisoh you're the nazi claiming to not be a nazi, right. "The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.” - winston churchill
@The_Sal ""The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.” - winston churchill" - some right-wing liar. Churchill never said that.
^ precisely! One of my points I attempted to describethat seems to go over everyones head
but bidenz and hitler's socialist polices are exactly the same. trumps was the opposite and you called him a nazi dictator. biden is the dictator
@The_Sal You simply don't know what you're talking about, yet you keep talking. Why is that? LOL
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Pretty much everything you just said there is factually wrong. It displays a childish understanding of immigration to USA, Japan, China and Europe. It displays a childish understanding of immigration. It displays a childish understanding of Nazism and quite frankly you are pretty dumb voice your opinion on this subject when you know so little about it.
@Soteris Wow! thank you so much for your input!! I learned so much. :)
If you cared to learn we would not be having this conversation in the first place. You are subject to intentional ignorance.
@Soteris Oh YES! I must clearly be!
Feel free to prove me wrong. Tell me how Trumps travel bans are justifiable as anything except racist and/or nazi.
@Soteris Let us be frankThe Japanese and Chinese systems allow in very few outsiders through their immigration policiesFor example, the Japanese foreign born population is roughly 1.75% of its population. They have only recently begun allowing in Foreigners to work Blue Collar jobs due to a shortage of people (and this has led to a decrease in overall population). It should be further noted that Japan only accepts Refugees at a.02% rate (as opposed to nearly 40% by European nations). For example, in 2017, there were nearly 20,000 applicants, and in 2018, nearly 10,000 applicants. In that period of time the Japanese only accepted 62 Refugees. ^ Japan however was the 2nd largest Donor in terms of UNHCR programs which they believed showed their acceptance (though taking 0 Refugees from Syria at the same time) <--- The United States was the number 1 donor to the organizationThe entire year, Japan granted Asylum to only 11 Refugees As opposed to over 21,000 to the USA, 11,000 to Germany, 9,000 to FranceSouth Korea even with its strict Refugee/Immigration laws allowed nearly 60.
@Soteris China in particular allow only 1,600 cards within a single year (a 750 times less number than the United States in the same period of time) This was for the year 2016.They will happily accept higher earning immigrants (though typically in far lower numbers).This is a nation that has built itself upon racism and supremacy to the degree that outside companies (like Disney) must abide by its restrictions to even supply there products <-- For example the Force Awakens Star Wars poster which created outrage to John Boyega fans.These concepts have always been supported by the Chinese government through their official rhetoric.. such as the Zhao Lijian Tweets and the CCTV 2018 reports (which were attempts to show positive Chinese influences in Africa) Or even the Pan Qinglin Legislation in Gaungdong <---- none of this even touching the worst atrocities within their own Government on the basis of race/religion etcMUCH of this stems from the 2016 "Cultural Confidence" movement which ultimately preaches superiority over other powers.MOST Chinese Immigration have been of their own ethnic background (for example the Chinese immigration out of Vietnam back to China in the 70s)The United States has its fair share of problems, and is clearly in a bad shape on these issues in comparison to most Western nationsbut its a far cry from many other parts of the worldeven very well developed partsSo spare me.
Oh dont get me wrong, China and Japan are extremist conservative and racist countries although in different ways. That does not mean that they are nazi though. One does not mean the other.It is also a fact that it is harming their countries in various ways such as the incredibly low innovation in Japan but this has less to do with what we should be talking about and more to do with your inherent biases that we are steadily unearthing.
@Soteris I hold no biases on this topicI am holding each nation to the same basic standard.The Fact ISWestern nations are generally FAR MORE progressive/open/accepting of others on nearly every metric (immigration, refugees, business practices)FEEL FREE to point out random examples of policies that were attacked by the Supreme Court itself and list it as an example of "Nazism" But lets not forget the double standard we hold here in regards to conversations against the West as opposed to the rest of the worldWe do not hold these parts of the world to the same standardTHIS will make it easier for Westerners to criticize the United States for its immigration policies as a sign of Racism, Nazism. ETC (even if at times the news reports are blown out of proportion)while completely ignoring the rest of the world that does FAR worseWe live in an age where Disney can fire Gina Carano for daring to imply that dehumanizing a person on the basis of their political beliefs can lead to far reaching consequences (While using the pre Holocaust era of dehumanizing Jews.. Which made it easier for the Nazi Government to carry out its atrocities)But that same company will gladly make a film like Mulan.. and think the Chinese government.. and a particular province that is currently persecuting Muslims. Lets accept the West isn't so bad in comparison to much of this worldand the ideologies we constantly push "be it anti-west.. anti-white.. anti-christian" ETC ETC which are so prevalent in the USA that you can be cancelled for even implying you might be conservative and believe in God (Chris Pratt? HOW DARE he love his family)None of this is helpfuland paints a very false picture of Western societyso no EXCUSE MEfor being "Dumb" and having little knowledge of the topic
You are not being consistent, you are overgeneralizing which means you are being inconsistent through omission. No one believes that China is on the same standard on social issues and human rights as "western countries" and they are regularly held accountable for it by entities like the UN but that is missing the point entirely.What you are doing right now is just ranting and going from topic to topic without a coherent narrative. We have gotten so far off from the original argument that at this point its completely meaningless to continue and if anything I feel vindicated that you had no intention of engaging in this discussion in the first place.
@Soteris This was actually my post and my points.But thats fine.
@Soteris as I stated in my previous post with @the_salI am merely making commentary on1. the generalizations of the western public of their own critiques and other cultures2. the consistent use of the term nazi in public discourse (be it conservatives attacking liberals.. or liberals attacking conservatives)3. the double standards often applied against the west (or whites specifically)Those were my pointsnot much elseI READ the original posters perspective as a comment not so much as HATING multiculturalism or immigrationBUT being someone who regulates it.. or finds certain aspects of its disagreeable (for example open borders... but accepts immigrants who can provide many positive attributes to the USA).. or perhaps the cancel culture. cultural appropriation.. etc standards that are often applied through multiculturalism in todays society^ for we often accept many distinct.. but expect them to stay separate (a form of segregation) Those were my pointsIF the original asker INDEED wants a WHITE ONLY.. ANTI-IMMIGRATION (none at all).. Then sure clearly a sign of supremacyHowever, that is not how I interpret itbecause most people who speak about being against immigration or multiculturalismare not actually AGAINST the issuebut the general topics that tend to be debatedwhich are 2 different things
Putting aside the whole conversation for just a moment. Do you seriously think we need a double standard to criticize USA? The same USA that commits human rights violations and war crimes on a yearly basis? If it was not for some countries like China doing active ethnic cleansing right now USA might actually be the worst offender.So yes USA is pretty damn racist in its immigration policy although that might just be the least of its problems.
@Soteris And once againthe argument "well if other nations didn't exist the USA might be the worse"not the best onethe fact is the USA is far more open/progressive than MOSTits a relatively free and open society (on the basis of every standard)it does its fair share of bad things.. sureeebut they often pale in comparison to much of the world
No, USA is objectively horrific its just that we have gotten desensitized because there are literally countries committing genocide. USA has started wars on other countries for doing less bad things than it itself is doing right now.
These fake lying internet trolls are so pathetic. They whine about being labeled and namecalling. But do nothing but label and namecall.
The haircut isn't helping
Hehe soup nazi