Agree. The American conservatives I've seen online over the years seem cold hearted folks. They hide their cold heartedness or justify it by saying life isn't fair blah blah to feel better about themselves.
I am a Christian , not N to politics ! Jesus was not N to polits so those who say he is R liars or at least need biblical scriptures to back them up with on this matter ! thanks
Yes... very much so. There's no such thing as a God fearing liberal. Nor is there a God fearing counterfeit christian based on a man-made traditional values as religious cults Neither .. Religion is not following Christ. And foremost , There aren't any lying Christians either , there's liers that call themselves Christians tho. Oxymoron is correct. Neither group will ever flood the gates of heaven.
Liberalism, doesn't go against the bible. Abortion does tho. Gay marriage is fine, so long as the church isn't forced. Really as long as you still follow the teachings of your lord Jesus Christ, you can be Christian.
Jess1812 - gay marriage is wrong , which is why God destroyed Sodom for them not using the natural use of the woman ! so stop your lying here ! you have no idea what U R saying and R bringing about your own damnation by lying ! thanks
@Jess1812 God the Father and Jesus Christ, the Son, are one. So Jesus teaching in the New Testament are not different from what God's is. In the Old Testament God was a God of Judgement because Jesus had not yet died for men's forgiveness of their sins. In the New Testament God is a God of forgiveness and mercy. Yes, men's sins are forgiven if they repent (change their ways) and accept that forgiveness. If they don't change their ways and repent then the Bible says that without repentance there is no forgiveness for sin. So God's opinion on Homosexuality has not changed for the unsaved - it is an abomination. Whoever practices such things, such as homosexuality, will not inherit the Kingdom of God. If you continue to live the gay life style then you have not truly repented. So gay marriage is not exactly fine.
Except that most of the contributions towards science where from bright minds that practiced Christianity. Not to mention that many parts of the Bible can be proven by science as well.
Militant atheists aren’t saints either. Look at all the atrocities committed by those communist regimes.
It doesn't say women must obey their Husband's.. It says to submit in the same token it also says tell husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the Church.. Jesus washed his disciplines feet, and died for us so that tells you what the Bible expects of Husbands..
The Bible doesn't put it like you infer, that the husband is the dictator. The husband is the head of the household but he is also supposed to love his wife like Christ loved the Church. He is not to lord over her which is the reason God found Adam a "suitable helper", a woman (from man), not his foot stool.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy It does say that but that does not mean contrary to what God says. He says love your wives. If he loves her he will not treat her unfairly or it's his way or the highway. They are to be a team.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Depends on the way you wanna translate it.. Some translations have obey, and most others say submit.. They are synonymous of each other but not the same exactly..
@Anon: No its not. Traditional democrats and liberals opposed LGBT and gender dysphoria craziness. This concept of accepting LGBT and given into their demands and lifestyle started with Obama.
You seem to be a leftist, not a liberal. It's confusing because we Americans conflate these two concepts, but they're different. Liberalism has always been about "lax morals."
Problem is Americans think liberal means liberal everywhere else as if America is the only place in the world and people hold to the American standard.
Liberals has nothing to do with "lax morals" what in the hell is that suppose to mean?
Liberalism means ditching traditional concepts and forms of whatever structure has been established wheather good or evil.
"Liberalism means ditching traditional concepts and forms of whatever structure has been established wheather good or evil."
That's the point exactly, you see? It goes against religion and traditional morality too. The core belief behind liberalism is "you can do whatever you want," including be a trans, get an abortion, living a non-traditional lifestyle and the list goes on. This mindset reflects on policy making too.
Like I said not very liberal is the same as not very conservative is the same because we all have different backgrounds and experiences that shaped our views.
A American conservative to a conservative Arab in the Middle East is a liberal.
The founding fathers of my home country where all liberals yet they loved Christianity, the Bible and didn't support a bunch of LGBT trash nor were against religion at all.
Oh, well, although not every "political person" is the same, the ideology they follow has a common set of beliefs that's above their personal preferences.
For a liberal, you're expected to support LGBTQ+ causes including same sex marriage, BLM, feminism, sex-positivity and your personal preferences mean nothing. You can't act like, "I'm a hardcore liberal, but I'm going to pick what I like and what I don't like about my ideology. Those ones who support trans kids are not true liberals."
They're true liberals, it's not their fault that you're trying to gatekeep their ideology.
The Founding Fathers were liberals in a political sense, they never support the idea of building the American society on the idea of "doing as one pleases." By the way, you say you're a Christian, right? Are you okay with the fact that the FF were Freemasons? You know, Christians in general see Freemasonry as an occultist cult, they don't even believe in the Christian god but the GAOTU.
We got to get away from completely categorizing people by liberal vs conservative “categories”. People are much more complicated than by who they choose to vote for and/or politically support.
It depends by what you mean by liberal. The 'Classic Liberal' should have no contradiction. The postmodernist, American leftist is contrary to Christianity, by definition.
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Eehh... yeah. But all humans rationalize our beliefs. And we’re tribal so being apart of the Christian tribe is comforting I’m sure. But socially liberal beliefs are in direct opposition to the Bible. But that’s ok!
No its not. There is a Christian ideology that feel that liberalism is bad bad bad. Christianity to me is about accepting people that are different as Jesus did. That God loves everyone and is forgiving
He instructs his followers to be meek, pacifist, doormats.
"Love your enemies." "Bless them that curse you." "Do good to them that hate you." "Pray for those that persecute you." "Judge not." "If a man takes your coat, give him your cloak as well." "Slaves, obey your masters." "Let every man be subject to the governing authorities."
I guess he and the blood-thirsty Yahweh are the only ones allowed to exercise Natural Law.
You don't know the Bible. You take a small piece here and there and think you know what you are talking about as most heathens do with the Bible.
#1: You don't overcome evil with evil but rather good. Knowledge and wisdom idiot heathens don't understand nor have.
#2: Christian slaves who had Christian slaves masters had to be obedient to their masters. It was written to Christians not heathens.
#3: God doesn't care. God is extremely cruel to His enemies. He curses them on his earth and will punish them for eternity torturing them in fire along with Satan and demons where they belong.
>You don't overcome evil with evil but rather good "Good" and "Evil" are subjective concepts. That which is considered "right and good" varies greatly from one society to the next, from one time period to the next.
>Knowledge and wisdom idiot heathens don't understand nor have. You believe the universe was created in 7 days by a desert genie, who was the father of a jew carpenter, who was born of a virgin and spent his time turning water into wine and walking on the surface of sea until he was crucified by an angry mob in order to save mankind from some vague, nebulous concept known as "sin" which apparently is present in all of mankind because a full grown woman, who was a few days old and made out of a rib, was tricked by a talking snake into eating a cursed piece of fruit from a forbidden tree... And you're calling other people idiots?
>Christian slaves who had Christian slave masters had to be obedient to their masters. Good. Enjoy your slavery.
>He curses them on his earth and will punish them for eternity torturing them in fire Save the sermon. I've heard it all before. Fear-based mind control does not work on me.
"I'm for government social programs to help the needy..." it specifically says that you are to do charity not force other people to pay for something you want.
You're paying for forced social programs now plus taxes which forced.
God had forced social programs in the old testament called the tithe which framers and owners of herds and lands that had to give 10% of all their crops, meat, grain, fruits and vegetables around every 3 months for the poor immigrant living within the land, widows, fatherless children and the levite priest to eat food.
Bet you didn't know tithe was a social welfare program God created for people to eat? Lol
y'all been taught is money by greedy lying pastors. Lol
Even if thats true, Gods got it covered. Plus you're nuts if you think they would give welfare to a tranny for example. They would actually kill them in most cases. So inherently any welfare through the government you're paying money to trannys and gays who are spending it on the promotion of faggotry. Welfare is supposed to be done through private means of the church so that nonsense doesn't happen.
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Not at all an Oxymoron. In fact, I would say that being a conservative and a Christian is contradictory. Conservatives are cruel people.
Agree. The American conservatives I've seen online over the years seem cold hearted folks. They hide their cold heartedness or justify it by saying life isn't fair blah blah to feel better about themselves.
I think you are exactly right thanks
I am a Christian , not N to politics ! Jesus was not N to polits so those who say he is R liars or at least need biblical scriptures to back them up with on this matter ! thanks
Yes... very much so. There's no such thing as a God fearing liberal. Nor is there a God fearing counterfeit christian based on a man-made traditional values as religious cults Neither .. Religion is not following Christ. And foremost , There aren't any lying Christians either , there's liers that call themselves Christians tho. Oxymoron is correct. Neither group will ever flood the gates of heaven.
You can not support abortion and be a Christian. Those that do are guilty of being an accessory to murder and will be in trial during their judgment.
You can't be actively gay and be a Christian when bible clearly says it is an abomination unto God.
Liberals also promote welfare , which is eating without working , in which bible states "if a man not worketh , he should not eat.
Liberalism, doesn't go against the bible. Abortion does tho. Gay marriage is fine, so long as the church isn't forced. Really as long as you still follow the teachings of your lord Jesus Christ, you can be Christian.
Jess1812 - gay marriage is wrong , which is why God destroyed Sodom for them not using the natural use of the woman ! so stop your lying here ! you have no idea what U R saying and R bringing about your own damnation by lying ! thanks
Religion is a mental illness.
@Jess1812 God the Father and Jesus Christ, the Son, are one. So Jesus teaching in the New Testament are not different from what God's is. In the Old Testament God was a God of Judgement because Jesus had not yet died for men's forgiveness of their sins. In the New Testament God is a God of forgiveness and mercy. Yes, men's sins are forgiven if they repent (change their ways) and accept that forgiveness. If they don't change their ways and repent then the Bible says that without repentance there is no forgiveness for sin. So God's opinion on Homosexuality has not changed for the unsaved - it is an abomination. Whoever practices such things, such as homosexuality, will not inherit the Kingdom of God. If you continue to live the gay life style then you have not truly repented. So gay marriage is not exactly fine.
@pizzapizzapizza The same can be said about anti-theism, more commonly known as “militant atheism”
Except that concept is fictional, whereas religious attrocities have caused countless deaths and suffering for centuries.
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Except that most of the contributions towards science where from bright minds that practiced Christianity. Not to mention that many parts of the Bible can be proven by science as well.
Militant atheists aren’t saints either. Look at all the atrocities committed by those communist regimes.
@pizzapizzapizza take your fedora and eat it
The bible says nothing about politics and its stupid to think you can connect the two.
You can't be a feminist and a Christian as the Bible does say that women have to obey their husbands. Also, homosexuality is a sin.
It doesn't say women must obey their Husband's.. It says to submit in the same token it also says tell husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the Church.. Jesus washed his disciplines feet, and died for us so that tells you what the Bible expects of Husbands..
The Bible doesn't put it like you infer, that the husband is the dictator. The husband is the head of the household but he is also supposed to love his wife like Christ loved the Church. He is not to lord over her which is the reason God found Adam a "suitable helper", a woman (from man), not his foot stool.
@JDavid25: It says obey too.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy It does say that but that does not mean contrary to what God says. He says love your wives. If he loves her he will not treat her unfairly or it's his way or the highway. They are to be a team.
@Daniela1982: Agree. I'm not into mistreating and disrespecting people at all. Wife is family.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Depends on the way you wanna translate it.. Some translations have obey, and most others say submit.. They are synonymous of each other but not the same exactly..
@JDavid25: King James Bible uses both submit and obey.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Honestly I don't use the KJV is the authoritative translation..
How are you a liberal if you don't support LGBT, gay marriage, abortion and trans stuff? I mean, that's what liberalism is about. 🤷🏼
You are right
@Anon: No its not. Traditional democrats and liberals opposed LGBT and gender dysphoria craziness. This concept of accepting LGBT and given into their demands and lifestyle started with Obama.
You seem to be a leftist, not a liberal. It's confusing because we Americans conflate these two concepts, but they're different. Liberalism has always been about "lax morals."
Problem is Americans think liberal means liberal everywhere else as if America is the only place in the world and people hold to the American standard.
Liberals has nothing to do with "lax morals" what in the hell is that suppose to mean?
Liberalism means ditching traditional concepts and forms of whatever structure has been established wheather good or evil.
"Liberalism means ditching traditional concepts and forms of whatever structure has been established wheather good or evil."
That's the point exactly, you see? It goes against religion and traditional morality too. The core belief behind liberalism is "you can do whatever you want," including be a trans, get an abortion, living a non-traditional lifestyle and the list goes on. This mindset reflects on policy making too.
Like I said not very liberal is the same as not very conservative is the same because we all have different backgrounds and experiences that shaped our views.
A American conservative to a conservative Arab in the Middle East is a liberal.
The founding fathers of my home country where all liberals yet they loved Christianity, the Bible and didn't support a bunch of LGBT trash nor were against religion at all.
*every
Oh, well, although not every "political person" is the same, the ideology they follow has a common set of beliefs that's above their personal preferences.
For a liberal, you're expected to support LGBTQ+ causes including same sex marriage, BLM, feminism, sex-positivity and your personal preferences mean nothing. You can't act like, "I'm a hardcore liberal, but I'm going to pick what I like and what I don't like about my ideology. Those ones who support trans kids are not true liberals."
They're true liberals, it's not their fault that you're trying to gatekeep their ideology.
The Founding Fathers were liberals in a political sense, they never support the idea of building the American society on the idea of "doing as one pleases." By the way, you say you're a Christian, right? Are you okay with the fact that the FF were Freemasons? You know, Christians in general see Freemasonry as an occultist cult, they don't even believe in the Christian god but the GAOTU.
Christianity is full of hypocrisy just like any political affiliation.
You DID ask for opinions here... dont get upset.
We got to get away from completely categorizing people by liberal vs conservative “categories”. People are much more complicated than by who they choose to vote for and/or politically support.
It depends by what you mean by liberal. The 'Classic Liberal' should have no contradiction. The postmodernist, American leftist is contrary to Christianity, by definition.
No; there's nothing wrong with that. You're fine, man.
Eehh... yeah. But all humans rationalize our beliefs. And we’re tribal so being apart of the Christian tribe is comforting I’m sure. But socially liberal beliefs are in direct opposition to the Bible. But that’s ok!
No its not. There is a Christian ideology that feel that liberalism is bad bad bad. Christianity to me is about accepting people that are different as Jesus did. That God loves everyone and is forgiving
I think you're just confused with the definition of liberalism.
Are you kidding? Liberalism as an ideology has its roots in Christian teachings.
Oh, you meant Liberal as in synonym for Democrat. I guess.
I've heard of Christians that are both. I personally know one
Not really. Your magical jew carpenter was a pacifist hippie.
Pacifist hippie? Yeah sure, he is the same one that will torture His enemies in a fiery furnace forever in hell.
He instructs his followers to be meek, pacifist, doormats.
"Love your enemies." "Bless them that curse you." "Do good to them that hate you." "Pray for those that persecute you." "Judge not." "If a man takes your coat, give him your cloak as well." "Slaves, obey your masters." "Let every man be subject to the governing authorities."
I guess he and the blood-thirsty Yahweh are the only ones allowed to exercise Natural Law.
You don't know the Bible. You take a small piece here and there and think you know what you are talking about as most heathens do with the Bible.
#1: You don't overcome evil with evil but rather good. Knowledge and wisdom idiot heathens don't understand nor have.
#2: Christian slaves who had Christian slaves masters had to be obedient to their masters. It was written to Christians not heathens.
#3: God doesn't care. God is extremely cruel to His enemies. He curses them on his earth and will punish them for eternity torturing them in fire along with Satan and demons where they belong.
>You don't overcome evil with evil but rather good
"Good" and "Evil" are subjective concepts. That which is considered "right and good" varies greatly from one society to the next, from one time period to the next.
>Knowledge and wisdom idiot heathens don't understand nor have.
You believe the universe was created in 7 days by a desert genie, who was the father of a jew carpenter, who was born of a virgin and spent his time turning water into wine and walking on the surface of sea until he was crucified by an angry mob in order to save mankind from some vague, nebulous concept known as "sin" which apparently is present in all of mankind because a full grown woman, who was a few days old and made out of a rib, was tricked by a talking snake into eating a cursed piece of fruit from a forbidden tree... And you're calling other people idiots?
>Christian slaves who had Christian slave masters had to be obedient to their masters.
Good. Enjoy your slavery.
>He curses them on his earth and will punish them for eternity torturing them in fire
Save the sermon. I've heard it all before. Fear-based mind control does not work on me.
Believe me when I tell you I seriously don't care what you believe. In fact you can't believe the gospel unless God grants it to you by his grace.
I love the Bible and that's never going to change.
Call me religious nut, Bible thumber etc. Heard it all before so I don't care. In fact I love those terms. 🤷♂️
Believe me when I tell you I care even less what you believe.
You care less. But I don't care less. I don't care at all × a trillion. 😂
Haha. You're a funny guy.
I mean all your liberal views contradict what it says in the bible. So there's that... but its just the bible, you know better than God i guess?
Nothing I said or stand for contradict God's word at all.
"I'm for government social programs to help the needy..." it specifically says that you are to do charity not force other people to pay for something you want.
You're paying for forced social programs now plus taxes which forced.
God had forced social programs in the old testament called the tithe which framers and owners of herds and lands that had to give 10% of all their crops, meat, grain, fruits and vegetables around every 3 months for the poor immigrant living within the land, widows, fatherless children and the levite priest to eat food.
Bet you didn't know tithe was a social welfare program God created for people to eat? Lol
y'all been taught is money by greedy lying pastors. Lol
I don't see much evidence for this. Got a verse?
Even if thats true, Gods got it covered. Plus you're nuts if you think they would give welfare to a tranny for example. They would actually kill them in most cases. So inherently any welfare through the government you're paying money to trannys and gays who are spending it on the promotion of faggotry. Welfare is supposed to be done through private means of the church so that nonsense doesn't happen.
I would say so yes I am baffled at the way the church in America has turned its back on scriptural teachings and taken a worldly liberal stance
The Bible should remain intact as God ordained. Progressive Christianity isn't of God and never will be.