Are BOTH democrats and Republicans FINALLY realizing that its corporate billionaire donors who are the real owners of this country (the world too)?

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And They don't give a single solitary FUCK about anyone or anything other than swelling their own profits? I think this pandemic made this FACT clear as day across party lines.

They have a bill currently in congress that is proposing SWEEPING election reform and has bipartison support AND YET the billionaires tell republicans in congress to IGNORE what the people want anyways.

Inside the Koch-Backed Effort to Block the Largest Election-Reform Bill in Half a Century

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-the-koch-backed-effort-to-block-the-largest-election-reform-bill-in-half-a-century
some interesting charts for you:

Are BOTH democrats and Republicans FINALLY realizing that its corporate billionaire donors who are the real owners of this country (the world too)?

https://www.vox.com/recode/2021/3/30/22357510/poll-billioniares-data-for-progress-vox-wealth-philanthropy-inequality
George Carlin giving out FACTS!

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zeitgeist057 | 106 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

I get what you're saying but it should be obvious by now the general public is easily manipulated and no, they are not going to "wake up" any time soon. They are going to continue to be sheep who play their part and go at each other's throats instead of after their puppet masters.

It's just the way things are, it's naturally progressed to the point where it is and those in power will continue to stay in power because they got there and stay there by playing people for who they are and continue to be. There will alway be a few people like you who try to point out what is going on, and that's great to attempt to educate some. But of those, most won't even listen or understand, and that's those who actually even get exposed. Most are too busy with their shoulders to the grindstone or caught up in daytime tv, sports, music, popular drama, "news" or any of the other entertainment that is there specifically to keep them distracted from the truth. https://www.youtube.com/embed/po5DePASnTU

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Kaneki05 | 1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Guru

I mean they already know, just most people tend to think capitalism is good or we cannot change it so live with it. So when the high wealthy are the ones in charge, people are just getting what they ask or keep allowing the system to be. Afterall Capitalism the literal point is richest person or people has the most power.
So this question is more just asking does everyone know the common knowledge of wealth is power. which of course everyone does.

Decisions of the people not been controlled by the wealthy would have to be done in a society ageist capitalism. But then all we have is examples of something trying that is commie dictators who just did the same thing capitalism did. And that's why you have people who just live with it because they just aren't willing to try anything else just in case i dunno mao happens.
If ya ask me that rational makes sense to any person but there is this counter, The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything ― Albert Einstein

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"Right-wingers love putting words into the mouths of people who never said them." - Jesus.

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goaded

"Right-wingers love putting words into the mouths of people who never said them." - Jesus.

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supercutebutt | 413 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Explorer

Anybody invested in the stock market got richer during the pandemic. Andt like 50% of the US has a 401K. So it's not just the billionaires who got richer. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, as the saying goes. So instead of wasting $$$ on booze, drugs, and porno, put your money in the stock market! :)

ReynardTheFox6251315

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The top 1% owns 50% of the stock market I think is the current figure. So that leaves the bottom 99% with the remaining 50%. It's not that only the rich got richer it's that wealth concentration is worse than it's ever been.
supercutebutt

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@ReynardTheFox6251315 Perhaps. But if you own stocks, odds are you have done pretty well on them during the pandemic. :)
ReynardTheFox6251315

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Ya the issue is people spending money on booze, drugs, and porn lol. It couldn't possibly be a rigged system where billionaires payed a lower percentage in taxes than the average American or the fact that Amazon payed no taxes. You even suggest in your post that 50% of Americans can't afford a stock portfolio.
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supercutebutt

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@ReynardTheFox6251315 Behave please.
zeitgeist057

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@ReynardTheFox6251315 quick quiz: if person B earns $2000/ month and has $1700/month in living expenses, and person C earns $20,000/month and has $6500/month in living expenses, who is spending more money on booze, and who also still has more money left over to invest in the stock market?

Some of the richest people I know do the most drugs.
ReynardTheFox6251315

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@zeitgeist057 I'm not sure what the point you are trying to make is. Maybe you didn't get the sarcasm in my second reply?
zeitgeist057

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@ReynardTheFox6251315 got it, sarcasm. I'm supporting you.
supercutebutt

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@zeitgeist057 @ReynardTheFox6251315 Anybody can afford to invest in the stock market. My uncle became a millionaire in like 25 years just by steadily putting around 20% of his earnings into investments. And he never had a high paying job. He also never spent money on booze or gave 10% of his money to a dirty church like so many stupid people do. Americans whine too much. The only one to blame for sucking at life is yourself. People can't take responsibility so they join cults like QAnon or a dirty church and blame "the others" for their failures. People are dumb. :)
zeitgeist057

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That's awesome. I was actually a "bitcoin millionaire" or could have been one, but I freaked out when they dropped from around $600 each to around $400 each and sold all but one, losing about $20,000. If I had kept them, I'd have about $5,000,000 today. so sad, oh well. Still plenty of time to save and invest. I agree people are dumb with money, buying cars they can't afford then paying double the price in interest by the time they are done paying for it and the car is now worth less than 1/4 of what they paid. There are so many ways for people to be parted from their money.

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ReynardTheFox6251315

The top 1% owns 50% of the stock market I think is the current figure. So that leaves the bottom 99% with the remaining 50%. It's not that only the rich got richer it's that wealth concentration is worse than it's ever been.

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supercutebutt

@ReynardTheFox6251315 Perhaps. But if you own stocks, odds are you have done pretty well on them during the pandemic. :)

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ReynardTheFox6251315

Ya the issue is people spending money on booze, drugs, and porn lol. It couldn't possibly be a rigged system where billionaires payed a lower percentage in taxes than the average American or the fact that Amazon payed no taxes. You even suggest in your post that 50% of Americans can't afford a stock portfolio.

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supercutebutt

@ReynardTheFox6251315 Behave please.

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zeitgeist057

@ReynardTheFox6251315 quick quiz: if person B earns $2000/ month and has $1700/month in living expenses, and person C earns $20,000/month and has $6500/month in living expenses, who is spending more money on booze, and who also still has more money left over to invest in the stock market?

Some of the richest people I know do the most drugs.

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ReynardTheFox6251315

@zeitgeist057 I'm not sure what the point you are trying to make is. Maybe you didn't get the sarcasm in my second reply?

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zeitgeist057

@ReynardTheFox6251315 got it, sarcasm. I'm supporting you.

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supercutebutt

@zeitgeist057 @ReynardTheFox6251315 Anybody can afford to invest in the stock market. My uncle became a millionaire in like 25 years just by steadily putting around 20% of his earnings into investments. And he never had a high paying job. He also never spent money on booze or gave 10% of his money to a dirty church like so many stupid people do. Americans whine too much. The only one to blame for sucking at life is yourself. People can't take responsibility so they join cults like QAnon or a dirty church and blame "the others" for their failures. People are dumb. :)

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zeitgeist057

That's awesome. I was actually a "bitcoin millionaire" or could have been one, but I freaked out when they dropped from around $600 each to around $400 each and sold all but one, losing about $20,000. If I had kept them, I'd have about $5,000,000 today. so sad, oh well. Still plenty of time to save and invest. I agree people are dumb with money, buying cars they can't afford then paying double the price in interest by the time they are done paying for it and the car is now worth less than 1/4 of what they paid. There are so many ways for people to be parted from their money.

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Anonymous

No shit, everyone already understood that. It became more overt than every the 2020 race. The Democrats had become the party of the very rich a while back, but now it was on full display with Bloomberg and Steyer dumping money into the race.

All the corporations come out with rainbow flags in June, they change policies to reflect progressive ideology. No one is hiding that shit. They want it out their for all to see lest they get cancelled.

And the graphs...
Billionaires made money, because people let themselves be confined and locked down. They voted for cancer governors who fuck you over at the first sign of trouble. Cuomo helped a bunch of old people die while getting his family to the front of the line for testing and vaccines. People like that lock everyone down, and all the small businesses die as everyone is now ordering off of Amazon and the only stores that can stay open are the big name stores. No shit the billionaires got richer. If people had a problem with it them they should have gone outside instead of letting themselves be confined.

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WindAtMyBack | 783 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

Election reform my ass. What it really means is that the Democrats are making a power grab by using federal legislation for their own benefit.

This is all a bunch of leftist bullshit.

Personally I couldn't care less about billionaires. They are billionaires, so what? It doesn't affect me even the tiniest little bit.

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your fellow conservative friends supported this too by the way.
WindAtMyBack

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I don't know and don't care who supported it.
Still-alive

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you don't want election reform? the current way we do elections is perfect already? no need for improvement?
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WindAtMyBack

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This is not election reform. It's a Democrat power grab.

But no, I don't have any significant problem with the current system.
Still-alive

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you don't think the election was stolen from Trump?
WindAtMyBack

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I think there were shenanigans going on, and it probably cost him the election.
Still-alive

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ok fair enough.

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Still-alive

your fellow conservative friends supported this too by the way.

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WindAtMyBack

I don't know and don't care who supported it.

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Still-alive

you don't want election reform? the current way we do elections is perfect already? no need for improvement?

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WindAtMyBack

This is not election reform. It's a Democrat power grab.

But no, I don't have any significant problem with the current system.

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Still-alive

you don't think the election was stolen from Trump?

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WindAtMyBack

I think there were shenanigans going on, and it probably cost him the election.

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Still-alive

ok fair enough.

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RedThread | 3.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Master

Money is power. I'd agree that both major parties are two sides of the same coin. Republicans are usually very direct with their opposition to basic shit that the majority of Americans statistically approve of. Democrats will lie and claim their for shit that makes life better for people but when they're in power they don't fight for any of it.

We are just players in their game.

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Anonymous

It's funny how your main argument is they don't care about me why should they have to care about you care about yourself make your own money don't expect someone to just give you free stuff because you think there supposed to care about you.

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The main argument is that they own this country and despite what you or any other American voter wants they will pay the politicians to do whatever they want them to do...
Opinion Owner

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The only reason this strategy works is because we have stopped doing what the founding fathers wanted and only allowed limited people voting.

Very easy to just flood the system with money when you have a lot of stupid people who could vote. The reason why the founding fathers called democracy where everyone can vote rule by the mob and consider democracy terrible thing and wanted severe limits on it.

Limit volume to only the people contributing you will cut out about 40% of population who votes just because they see a Facebook ad doesn't matter if they spend hundreds of millions of dollars the people who are informed don't vote bass off of Facebook ads.

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Still-alive

The main argument is that they own this country and despite what you or any other American voter wants they will pay the politicians to do whatever they want them to do...

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Opinion Owner

The only reason this strategy works is because we have stopped doing what the founding fathers wanted and only allowed limited people voting.

Very easy to just flood the system with money when you have a lot of stupid people who could vote. The reason why the founding fathers called democracy where everyone can vote rule by the mob and consider democracy terrible thing and wanted severe limits on it.

Limit volume to only the people contributing you will cut out about 40% of population who votes just because they see a Facebook ad doesn't matter if they spend hundreds of millions of dollars the people who are informed don't vote bass off of Facebook ads.

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Juxtapose | 1.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Guru

I think anybody with two brain cells to rub together knows that all the politicians are 100% untrustworthy.

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Yes they answer to the corporate billionaires only despite what average voters want

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Still-alive

Yes they answer to the corporate billionaires only despite what average voters want

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Floppy2112 | 92 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Xper 6

No, I don't think people realize this at all. I don't think people are starting to realize anything. I feel people are numb for the most part and hardly if ever look past themselves.

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genericname85 | 2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Master

they will never realize. they will always blame each other for the shit in the world instead of the ones you mentioned, who are the real root of all the evil we see.

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OddBeMe | 7.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Guru

Well... yeah. You’re of course right. If the billionaires are smart, they’d realize their billions are worth more with a stronger middle class. But that remains to be seen.

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Anonymous

It isn't billionaires, it is billionaires who in conjunction with the government use their wealth to try to control our lives and squash their competitors in the marketplace.

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loveslongnails | 2.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Guru

WHICH Dems and Repubs are we talking about?

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The ones that want this bill and the ones that those in the polls I posted
loveslongnails

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I still don't get it. Everyone with half a brain knows that money runs this country, and the world. It's only the "masses" who think otherwise. That said, there still are better "choices" when it comes to politicians because of their attitudes towards the common folk. But overall, it's only about money and who prospers.

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Still-alive

The ones that want this bill and the ones that those in the polls I posted

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loveslongnails

I still don't get it. Everyone with half a brain knows that money runs this country, and the world. It's only the "masses" who think otherwise. That said, there still are better "choices" when it comes to politicians because of their attitudes towards the common folk. But overall, it's only about money and who prospers.

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Anonymous

Rich technocrats... and someday soon, possibly the Chinese

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