Can I truly trust your opinion on how thought provoking the question is when you don't seem to understand the question, itself?You seemed to have interpreted the question as "are things like taxation necessary? And if so, why?" rather than "in what way are your morally entitled to the earnings of others?"
Provided the opportunity? My ass, people pay fortunes to get educated. Companies provide jobs, not the government. I don’t accept any fake responsibility towards a society nor any other entity I didn’t actively choose to be part of.
@JustJen I guess growing up in a world where things like education is just there and expected of you, it’s hard to see that as a provided opportunity. But when you consider that there are many places in the world where you would have to fight for the opportunity to be education, and in some cases risk your life just for doing so. I know it makes me appreciate where I live and grow. You actively choose to be part of society every time you leave your house and participate in it.
Education costs more than $40k per year.
@JustJen Uh-huh. And if you had to travel and live in a foreign country to get educated? How much do you think that would cost. I really only used education as an example. Taxes pay for a whole lot of things you use it benefit from on a daily. Why do you believe you have no responsibility to contribute to the maintenance of the society that brought you up?
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I don't want benefits. I want to choose for myself and pay for what I personally need, nothing more, nothing less.
@JustJen So no infrastructure? No military? No roads? No police or fire services? Is that what you are talking about?
Roads could be privately founded and no police is not needed if everyone is allowed to defend themselves
@JustJen There are places in the world like that. We call them third world countries.
Very common in Europe and North America. As well as elsewhere.
@JustJenWhat is very common in Europe and North America? Places where they don’t have police because people are allowed to protect themselves?
Building privately funded roads. And paying for education. And privately financed health care. And much more.
@JustJen Are you using privately funded roads and schools that exists in a system that is most publicly funded as an example? 🤦🏻♀️Maybe you are interested in taking up a collection plate and going to your neighbors to ask for donations to fix the potholes on your street. I’m not. Let the city take care of it with my tax dollars. They can take my garbage with them when they go.
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Amen to that.
I can't argue with the technicality behind taxation being theft. We didn't consent to it and it is being taken from us. That being said, I'm not opposed to it (at least not in general, I'm discontent with some things our tax dollars are going towards). But disregarding the quality of it debatably being theft, do you think it's a good thing for society? And if yes, do you think people would willingly contribute to such causes, rather than it having to be taxed out of them?
I think it should be voluntary. I wouldn’t mind paying a tax if it did something good for me or other people. Funding fuckwit politicians, inflating military budgets and other shit is NOT what I want my money taken for. If they used it to improve infrastructure, schools or healthcare, then I could see doing it voluntarily and it being a good thing.
I unfortunately don't think we, as a society, are mature enough to voluntarily do so. At least not a vast majority of people.
Right. I would like to see how much you make with no transportation facilities, no police force, no armed forces, none of the other services that make the economy work.
I don’t need an income to survive. I need an income to afford my property. Without a police force, nobody is going to remove me from my property. Without police, anyone that fucks with me on my property is getting shot. Don’t try and pseudo flex with me.
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No, I was simply encouraging thoughtful discussion, not asserting a point.
I'm not saying it should be equal, but the distribution of profits should not be insanely imbalanced to favor the owner.