So all laws and regulations don’t work? Should we repeal them all?
i read her reply no where does she state they don't work but there is a lot more then guns at play with the world today
@user1245322 what’s at play? Seriously it’s really simple. We have killing machines that aren’t regulated.
i never said that, dont misconstrue or read into things that aren't there, what i said was there is more of a core issue, without guns someone will find another way is what i said, the whole thing is so much bigger. like people used planes as we saw in 911, cars to run into people, bombs at marathons if someone wants to do evil and harm or kill they will find a way is what i was saying. anything can be a weapon in the wrong hands
Yes, but all those things are vastly more regulated than guns. And they don’t kill 30,000 people a year.
i gotcha i do really. but what do you do when they are illegal guns used in crimes? like i live in philly 9 outta 10 times stolen etc guns, not actual registered users doing the crimes with illegally obtained weapons
Australia put forward a fun buyback program for illegal weapons.
Well the gun part of the constitution is an “amendment”. So really it’s just stupid people thinking you can’t amend an amendment.
Joint the shit should be a t shirt.
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For some reason it works in Europe and Australia. Why does gun control work everywhere but America?
Because that was their default. They never had that gun culture or saturation. So it’s too late to implement that now and hope it’ll be effective. Besides if you want to get petty, why is it Switzerland has a shit ton of firearms but has no mass shootings? No domestic terrorism? It’s culture. That’s the difference.
Bullshit. Sorry. You gun nuts are just gonna have to deal.
Except it’s not bullshit nor am I a gun nut. Funny how you duck my question and instead try to deflect. Face it hon, your magic idea of gun control here will not work. You can’t solve a complex and multifaceted issue with one thing. Unless you address the whole thing sufficiently, nothing will change. Not a fucking thing.
Swiss have mandatory gun training foe every civilian. And if the Swiss civilians want to keep their guns there’s huuuggge regs to go through. Do some research.
I did. But you know what’s funny, hon? They still get to keep them and use them. So what is stopping them from using it like we do? It’s certainly not regulations. Regulations mean nothing if someone decides to murder en masse. So what is it? Culture, good mental health care and an armed populace.
Regulations mean nothing. You could give me a 1,000 of them and it wouldn’t stop me if I decided to shoot up a hospital.
Again, it seems to work in Europe and Australia.(Ps I hate fighting with friends)
And again, that doesn’t mean it will work in the USA. They don’t really have a gun culture, much less one like we do. I do too.
I still don’t get it. What’s different about America? Of course every law will have naysayers, but good damn bad. Of all the G20 nations, there’s like 300 gun deaths total a year. We have 30,000.
We have always been a badly regulated gun culture. Protection, hunting, just for fun etc. if you wanted gun control, it would have needed to be implemented from the start. So because it was not, we had that barely regulated freedom and it not only became foundational in the constitution, but now people will violently oppose any attempts at a law that they perceive as infringing on their rights or jeopardizes their safety. So as an example. I live in the woods. There’s bears, coyotes and moose out here and I see them often enough to be armed when I’m outside. I have an ex boyfriend who has tried to kill me and still wants me dead. The closest town is 30-45 minutes away, weather depending. So what would you suggest I do to defend myself? With the typical gun regulations suggested by liberals (not saying you’re one), I’d be left with essentially nothing because one aspect of my guns or another, would be considered illegal.
Again, Australia. Same outback pre-English colony, and guns are still available there. Just with more rules to keep whackos from getting them. And not a mass shooting in 20 years. Quelle surprise.
And again, honey, different culture.
It’s not. You seem to think countries are so vastly different. Yet we have the same laws..
Also that’s a pretty shitty objection to trying to stop 30,000 gun deaths a year. Sorry…
And a different CULTURE about guns. Ok fine. Let me ask you this. If my ex finds out where I lives and holds to his vow of murdering me, without guns, what do you want me to do? And no this isn’t rhetorical, I want your answer on this.
Shouldn’t your ex be TOTALLY blocked from getting a gun?
Nope he’s fully allowed to have one. And does. And considering he’s friends with some shitty people, not much would stop him from getting one anyways. Well?
Mmm…if he wasn’t allowed to have one you could notify police…but I guess you care more for his gun rights than your safety. Ok.
Nope my safety comes first. And that’s also not what I asked you. So I’ll reask you. And a different CULTURE about guns. If my ex finds out where I lives and holds to his vow of murdering me, without guns, what do you want me to do? (Just so there’s no misunderstanding, this scenario means he has shown up at my house with the intent on killing me, just as he’s flatly stated he will do)
Ignore the culture part, I copy pasted it from before and forgot to remove that chunk
If gun regs were tougher on fucks like that who abuse their spouses or are stalking people you’d be more safe. It boggles my mind why you’re protecting his right to own guns.I’m not fighting against your right to own a gun. I want stalkers and those with violent histories to not have access.
Except as I’ve stated he’s friends with shitty people and could easily get a gun anyways. :/ Hon I’m protecting my right to protect myself with a gun, because the motherfucker already has one and access to guns from drug dealers. So again hon, answer the question. And side note, I HAVE a violent history. I have been to jail before. So any violence requisite for the gun removal would still affect me.
I don’t know. Maybe none of you violent people should have guns. If we started getting them off the street and making them harder to buy - the blackmarket prices would skyrocket too.
I love how you’re still not answering my question.
Look I get it, it’s uncomfortable to tell a friend “hey yeah I know my idea literally puts you at risk of murder, but sorry!” But at least tell me if that’s actually the case instead of repeatedly tap dancing around the question.
You’re asking how would we get all the guns back from drug dealers and deranged exes? Well if police had teeth to strip violent criminals of weapons that’d be one. And again…like Australia…we could offer a buyback program where drug dealers would be incentivized instead of illegally selling. It worked there. But hey, culture right?
No I’m not asking that. I’m asking you, yet again, what the fuck do you expect me to do if he comes knocking with the intent of murdering me, like he’s said he would do and has tried to do before. He has guns. He has criminals that can get him illegal guns if need be. You know EXACTLY what I’m asking you. Answer the fucking question dude.
I told you, I’m really not for taking your guns away. But if you were for gun control earlier in your life you may prevented your crazy fucken ex from getting his guns. See if he breaks a restraining order, you call police and if he’s found with an illegal firearm, he goes to jail. Nice huh?
And how could I have when he owned them before he even met me? And the gun control criteria YOU mentioned also would bar me from owning then. Yeah except here’s the kicker you forgot. I live 30-45 minutes from the nearest town. Even being really generous and assuming they can drive like the devil down a winding dirt road, and make it in say 15 minutes, that’s still 15 minutes he’s free to do as he wishes if I didn’t have a gun. It takes a fraction of a second for a gun to kill, and he has 15 minutes to do the deed. Now realistically if they arrived in that half hour, he could easily kill me in whatever way his sadistic mind can conjure. So let me ask you this now. Are you ok with him killing me? Or would you be ok with me killing him in self defense, even though I am violent per your criteria?
Shrug…there’s lots of small town constables. We lived out in a “non city” once. Emergency crews are everywhere.But regardless, you know these gun laws are common sense bullshit. You’re just so attached to your guns you don’t want to admit it. Fine. We’ll make the country safer without you.
So Americans are crazier than other countries? Cuz Europe and Australia seemed to kick mass shootings in the butt.
Americans are definitely on edge, that is for sure.
So still blame everything but actual guns…
I blame people
Yes, we should do something to keep them from getting killing machines.
Id like to point out that even with multiple scientific studies there has never been a proven link between video games and shootings/violence. That was just a political attack AKA a lie told by politicians to gain more support.
@Soteris very true.
Gang up on the helpless woman
Shhh.. dont ruin the mood. OddBeMe and I had something magical going on there until you intruded.
He's pretty majestic kinda like a unicorn or fairy
Don’t worry my babies, there’s enough odd to go around… (shit eater grin)
To masculine for emojis huh?
I don’t do hieroglyphs
I met Mike Jones once at a casino on accident
Who the fuck is mike jones?
Feel the same way for rioting?
there needs to be more violence with rioting. they are doing it wrong
Regulating guns like we do cars would be a start.
Unfortunately regulating them doesn't keep people from using them unless I don't understand what you have in mind?
Actually it does. That’s NRA bullshit.
How does that work then?
Are you asking how does a law work? I’m sure there’s a kids show that can explain it.
No of course I know how laws work. I am wondering how regulating guns keeps people from using guns?
Ummm…govt buy back of illegal street weapons, mandatory and deeper background checks, federal gun registry with ballistics…Those are off the top of my head. Oh and once guns are harder to get, the black maker prices will skyrocket. I’ve heard that one too.
I agree with all of that, but you would be surprised at the lengths people will go to get guns. It is possible to literally make them in a machine shop (and people do), print them from plans offered on the internet (and people do this too), and buy them from foreign and underground sources, and probably a lot more sources I don't know about. If you try to take guns away from people, you will start a civil war, even if you pay for them.
He should be shooting tyrants like Biden not common people.
Regulate guns like we do cars.
Okay, do you mind explaining to me how that would decrease mass shootings?
Mmm…mandatory training and licensing…National registry…vast personal history made available to sellers.
Car accidents still happen everyday. Many car accidents
Sure. So should we not force car licenses and registrations? Are you saying it doesn’t work?
Hon registering guns doesn’t stop them from killing people en masse. Training them just makes their job easier and more efficient. Tackling one aspect of a problem solves literally nothing. It’s not even helpful. It just cripples people who would be law abiding citizens in having access to guns that could be used for protection, and it justifies the nutjobs arguments about libs coming for your guns, which could cause them to lash out.
@Agape93Lol are you okay?
Yeap I’m good. Why?
Just doesn’t seem like you to respond with “thanks love” haha
Ah I do when I’m happy lol
@Agape93 What? How many car mass murders are there?
None because that’s impossible short of running into crowds. Don’t try false equivalence fallacies with me, I’ve been dealing with this longer than you have.
@Agape93 it isn’t. Why are there more regs for cars than guns?
Except it is. But to answer your question, because a car is a 2,000 hunk of metal, fiberglass and rubber traveling at 50mph. It’s very easy to kill someone by accident. With guns that’s not the case if you have had any sense of trigger discipline, which is when it becomes deliberate. Should there be some extra regs? Sure, but gun control on its own won’t solve anything. That’s a stupid fucking fantasy.
@Agape93 (chuckling) you think guns are safer than cars?
When did I even imply that?
Also don’t be a condescending little cunt.
@Agape93 I can be cunt-like. But your brain seems to think a 2000 lbs object is different than gun.
... a 2,000lb object IS different than a gun 😂
@Agape93 sorry, things that kill deserve similar laws. Cars, guns, alcohol, drugs. Everyone one of those has greater regs…except guns.
Correct but I’m not going to sit there and allow my freedom to be pushed to the back burner for your sensibilities. (Also FYI I can go to food lion and buy alcohol with just my ID, so that’s just a bad example lol)
Cool! Masturbate over whatever you want.