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I love how you didn’t explain what type of government you’d prefer at all but instead gave a freshman political science lecture because you needed to show off how smart you are. Like do you want a cookie?
@DrHobama What makes you think the orientation of the government I want would differ from my philosophical beliefs? I wrote what I did because it seemed to me it got to the heart of the question in a more elemental way than attempting to offer a listing of what I would want in terms of specific policies.Also note my reference to the welfare state. Suffice to say I am not hostile to an ameliorative welfare state but space did not permit an elaboration of the distinction between that an transformative welfare state as envisioned by a "leftist" government.In any case, I would have been happy to have a discussion on these questions. However, I am not so inclined to believe that it would be very productive given your snide and petulant attitude.
No, I’d want nothing more than to listen to you discuss the writings of st Thomas aquinas and Edmund Burke while smelling your own farts.
@DrHobama Go to school child. Go learn something.
Try not to break your back carrying the weight of that ego old timer
@DrHobama Sir, forgive me. It is not ego to seek to have - as I have on this site - serious and deeper discussions. Believe it or not, not everyone is committed as you seem to be to one word answers and ignorance.
And a disingenuous and condescending apology to boot. God you really can’t help yourself can you?
@DrHobama Sir, you have managed in the space of one exchange, to embody everything that is wrong with the culture. Your preference for the superficial and the the simplistic. Your mistaking vitriol as a substitute for reasoned argument. Your questioning of the motives of people whom you cannot possibly know. Self-satisfaction in inverse ratio to the justification for it.As to apologies, I would have been willing, as I noted, to have a reasoned discussion. It was not I who began this discussion with calumny. You did that. I have nothing to apologize for, I assure you.
I think you really ought to read your comments aloud before writing them and realize what an absolutely pretentious tool you sound like. You’re writing a comment on a social media site most people use for relationship advice, not writing an graduate school essay. No one is impressed, I’m more or less baffled that you’re keeping up the pseudo-intellectual routine while barely even addressing the prompt.Congratulations, you read Edmund Burke. So did anyone in any introductory philosophy class. This is not an argument about politics, because you never made one. I’m calling you a pretentious tool because that’s exactly what you are. Go back to lecturing children I’m sure they’re more easily impressed than I am.
@DrHobama Yes, I am being called ugly by a frog. Be less concerned with what I sound like and more concerned with the merits of the argument.
Mr. Nightdrot does not advance arguments to make him "interesting" but because he has real arguments and ideas that he is able to express intelligently. Mr. Nightdrot has obvious intellectual superiority, even in his writing it shows.But if you have any arguments against these ideas then voice them and stop playing the troll. If you have any arguments against his ideas he will answer you kindly, in fact I think that s called a debate. And you can learn things too, it's rewarding you know.Mr. Nightdrot is absolutely not contemptuous in his answers. And the proof is that he often debates with me when I have no level of study and I come from a small countryside. On the other hand, you, you are really contemptuous with your comments
He posed an idea? Where?
Like you keep gesturing at the “argument” as though you made some point, and as if vaguely handwaving at a few philosophers and citing facts about political terminology is itself an argument. The reality is that you said nothing of consequence that would fit the prompt other than claim that an ameliorative welfare system is good, which is the type of thing that’s so commonly accepted that you may as well have not said it. Just say “ I think good things are good” and end it there, that’s all any of that pablum is worth.
Trust me I know the history
@Julielamar2 Thanks for your very kind comments. I appreciate it more than words can say. Ya have to say, drhobama is a net subtraction to the depth and civility of this site. It is quite astonishing. Anyhow, thanks so much and hope this finds you well.
@DrHobama Well, if I have said nothing of consequence, you have certainly taken quite a bit of time discussing it.As I noted before, my point was to trace back - allowing for the character limitations permitted by the site - my idea of what constitutes good government to its philosophical essentials. However, that is really aside the point given that you opened not with a discussion of the merits of that case or that approach, but rather with vitriol.Really sir, you are, as I said, wrapped up in one package, what is wrong with the culture and why civil discourse has become so problematic.
I love the difference in how you talk in this conversation and in your questions, where you just asked women whether they liked to be cummed in a dozen times. Almost like the idea that this is some sort of civil debate and you’re a Christopher hitchens-esque philosopher trying to save discourse is just a massive larp on your part.I wish you could just be honest with yourself and admit it. There’s far more dignity in you jacking yourself off asking women if they’ve ever been fucked from behind than there is in you metaphorically doing it.
@DrHobama Yes, and aren't you the one who said this site is a "social media site most people use for relationship advice..."No matter. You picked a fight for no reason, simply because you did not like the "sound" of a posting. You are offended that I had the effrontery to quote Burke and Aristotle, which, gosh knows, is a peculiar thing to be offended by. You appear to be poorly educated and superficial and are a net subtraction the depth and civility of this site.As I said before, go to school child. Go learn something.
Can us guys just stop arguing about this silly matter. Please put a full stop to this. I am fucking irritated now.
It has been stopped. Sorry, but this is an opinion site, after all.
I fully agree with that 👍🏽
>not forming an NKVD to """break""" conglomerate transnational monopolies holy shit ngmi
I am not hard left winger.
Hard to disagree with Thomas Jefferson.
Was it not him who wrote the DOI
@PoliteSpeaker Yes, he was the one that wrote most of it. I always thought he was the real father of our country.
I agree with you. Though I am not an extreme leftist. But I love the mid leftist policy.
That's why I think the dumbest thing we can do is elect politicians to run our government. They can't run a taco stand. If we had a politician as president the previous term, there would be no vaccine to argue about.
@DrHobama if you don’t believe the world is ran like a business well 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ that’s your stupidity
My point here is that thinking it should be is a mistake. Neoliberalism is a global cancer and Americans are fully indoctrinated in it.
@DrHobama hun I’m not liberal at all
Neoliberal-favoring policies that promote free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending.Read a book in your goddamn life.
And I also don’t believe in neoliberalism either. I am literally saying the world is basically a business. That doesn’t correlate to neoliberalism
Who the hell are you to tell someone or read a book? Go take your meds
You are literally describing a global neoliberal ideology. I’m telling you to read a book because you clearly don’t know what words mean.
I barely described anything. Go take your meds.
“The world is ran like a business” quite literally the only tenant of neoliberalism, a word you clearly have never heard of.
You literally didn’t even give me a chance to even expand on what I mean by that , yes I have heard of that before. Maybe if you learned to converse like an actual adult you can further educate once I. Have explained my point of view instead of being a man child. I have no patience for people like you
Well no, you seemed to mistakenly believe that liberal and neoliberal are interchangeable terms, implying you don’t know the meaning of at least one of them. You explained your perspective fine, I criticized it using a word you didn’t understand and are now getting defensive at me pointing out that fact.
Ummm I know the difference between the two , but again you didn’t even give me a chance to explain, instead you just came at me like a typical adult that is outraged by politics. Again, I don’t have patience for people like you.
No I am getting defensive at the fact that you came at me like a man child.
Then why did you falsely claim that I called you a liberal? Doesn’t really make sense does it?
Because I am not any of the above. Thank you. Now get off my comment before I block you.
Also you claimed that neoliberalism has nothing to do with believing the world should or is run like a business which is so wrong it’s a little funny.
Again you didn’t give me a chance to even explain what I meant by that. One more reply and you are blocked. Not dealing with a man child tonight
Do you don’t believe in free market capitalism despite believing the world is run like a business? How exactly does that work?
I can send you some books, you might actually learn something.
Go fuck yourself. Go take your meds
You think that would be better than this? Explain. What is direct democracy? Is that not a system that governs?
Direct democracy, better referred to as "participatory democracy" is a system where all people affected by a decision get to participate in the decision making process. A lot of people will tell you that direct democracy is not realistic, because they think it means people voting on stuff they don't know/care about. That is not the idea. The idea is that your directly involve yourself in decisions that affect you, and you participate in those decisions. Decisions that don't affect you, you leave to those who are affected by them.It is basically true, honest democracy.In a direct participatory democracy, you may be part of a group that wants to make a decision with other groups. Rather than electing a representative and giving that person executive authority, a "spoke" would be chosen who would just be the spokesperson for the group, and would be recallable and replaceable by their group at any time. This way larger decisions can be made by groups of groups, all with the consent of their fundamental members, without necessarily involving everyone. Consent and trust within the smaller groups is built, and therefore practical logistical matters can be delegated without ever forfeiting the right to take interest in a matter that may suddenly concern you.