I’m all for it, oh, by the way, the blue half of the country gets no money or goods from the red half.
@rcljr Nor are they allowed to seek asylum in the red country.
Exactly, I guess they could try to get to Canada and Mexico
Californians, and by extension Liberals, hate EVERYONE who don't think exactly like they do; which is far-left/Progressive. How is that welcoming and open-minded?
It was my opinion :) hope you can respect that xx
I live here I’m from here and I was born here. I think i know my people more than any other states. If you’re talking about influencers that literally came from Florida or other states then that’s a whole different story. Thanks for replying xx
And also people who come from other states and complain about California and move out *
Also, I like your username! It’s giving cheetah girls 💕
OML, that's just what I was thinking! I lean more towards the socially liberal and more politically conservative side, and I do think that the majority of people are as well. But with so much diversity of political opinions, I do think that there would be a lot more peace if certain areas could run it like they wanted.
by the way I love cheetah girls too! I like how you handled the person who disagreed with you, instead of just being hostile. You have good vibes 💖💖💖
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What the Democrats did was like Nazi's in Germany and the Communists did in Russia. They were minority party that rigged elections to control majority.
I live in California, and many of us would like to be shed of propping up the anti-vaxxer, fascist states that do nothing but cause trouble.
@msc545 California and new York are the most fascist/socialistic/communist of all.
@Mac-One I live in California, and we don't think so at all.
@msc545 With that map I would be in a red state; "good".
@Mac-One And we will be glad you are comfortable there and stay there.
@rachelspiks Let California secede.
@msc545 I live in CA too and it IS very socialistic, filled with homeless and crime. This state is trash because of the liberals and their policies. So many people left CA that it is losing a congressional seat. Over 700,000 people have left recently. I'll likely leave too in a couple years. This state sucks. It is too polluted because of all the fires due to Newsom's bad management. The air is terrible. 2 to 3 days per week the students in schools can't even be outside due to such poor air quality.
We have fires because of climate change you idiot not because of Newsom. Of course, you don't believe in climate change because if you did that would mean that you would have to possibly take a hit in your obscene profits.
If you want to leave California go right ahead and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
@rachelspiks I lived in California in 1952 & 1953 when it was a nice place to live and not liberal and too expensive.
We want nothing at all to do with you people and it would be great if you lived in a different counttry.
Damn Kraken, you blocked me? Lol
Yes, much like how the North invaded the south last time they tried to secede. If you don’t hold New York and California it’s more or less game over because you’d be under an immediate blockade and in the same position as last time.
@MrKinktastic you are assuming which side I am on
I am a conservative living in a blue state and I would take my wealth and knowledge with me to support the new Red nation
Right but you can’t take the ports or major population centres with you.
America couldn’t secede from Britain either. Red states would survive just fine. We grow our own food. How would blue states survive without farmlands, base materials and energy production?
@DarkWinterNights you are aware of the magnitude of the farmland in central California, a totally blue state?
@msc545 The farmlands of California are decidedly "Red". The "Blues" from Cali would have to enslave the farm owners and force them to produce. Not that liberals are above this.
@KrakenAttackin They are kind of red, but faced with selling their land they will stick around, or sell it to blue people. Either way, the land isn't going anywhere.
@msc545 Are you aware that the farmers in the Central Valley of California (where I have lived for 35 years) are almost all conservatives that actually work for a living?
Yes. They can leave if they want or stay. Farming is not rocket science and the land is not going anywhere.
You are a special galactic kind of stupid thinking red states need money from the blue states.
@rcljr …and you’re a special kind of stupid if you don’t realize the biggest moochers off the federal tit are red states. They are subsidized by wealthier blue states. Kentucky alone relies on federal aid for 40% of its budget. So yeah, a little of these red states would be destroyed.
Many red states are controlled by outside interests and been shut down or otherwise prevented from exploiting their own resources. Alaska alone has tens of trillions of dollars of resources, oil, gas, lumber, lithium, iron ore, gold, fish, etc. The red states really don’t need much, provided they could defend themselves from foreign adversaries they would do just fine.
@KrakenAttackin , if I was in Commiefornia as a farmer and forced to leave due to the country splitting up, my land would be scorched earth, crops buildings burned to the ground and thousands of gallons of diesel fuel soaked into the crop land… there ya go lefties ! FARM THAT !
@rcljr I would do the same thing. I would probably go "Soviet" and poison the land.
@KrakenAttackin , lol, I must have pissed you off to get blocked…
@rcljr I'm used to it. I do hate when the cowards do a hit and run, leaving a shitty comment than blocking. I have never blocked anyone.
@DarkWinterNights right - if they could just trash the environment all would be well.
@msc545, There is a difference between trashing the environment and simply exploiting our own resources in a responsible way, benefiting our economy and the people who live here.Right now all we’re doing is shutting down our own resources by importing everything from 3rd world countries that don’t have environmental or child labor protections. Then we pat ourselves on the back as the other side of the world suffers.
We also have dirty air and water from what you suggest. I would prefer to import what we need.
This. Anyone who thinks differently needs to review their history and knowledge of how naval blockades impact an economy.
I wouldn't be so sure about that:www.usnews.com/.../fiscal-stability
@Avicenna I don't see that taking into account how much money is put into or taken out of their economies by the federal government.worldpopulationreview.com/.../federal-aid-by-state
Your source doesn't particularly support your argument, especially when one takes into account federal mandates that affect state spending as well as net payments from the federal government. Those mandates might be somewhat different in an altered political constellation, as might economic policy or taxation in general. The pension liabilities are also a huge issue, especially for the largest blue states.
we have the money
@msc545 throw money at me and I’ll shoot you and see which one kills
@msc545 Money based on a devaluing currency and astronomical debt.
Is that a threat?
@msc545 you asking me?
@msc545 a threat? No it’s a challenge
Why do these liberals assume they can beat bullets up? Money is paper and if our own country went to war it becomes obselete but what they can do with their "Money" is get a first flight to China and go be a communist like they always dreamed
Like Texas did on their electrical grid?
@goaded Texas has electricity?
Occasionally. Not during really bad weather, and if they do, it costs a fortune.
Also your map is dated. A lot more states went blue in the last national election.
True, but I would argue our biggest enemies are already here.
@DarkWinterNights There is real truth in what you say.
It is. Then liberals could tax their subjects at a 90% rate to pay for all the illegals they invited in.