Why are people in the US still talking about climate change like it’s a debate? (Page 2)
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I don't know. They are just trying to continue this until the democrats can pass that 3.5 trillion dollar waste of money.
This isn’t a democrat vs Republican thing. Both parties are being funded by lobbyist in order to promote the oil and gas industry.
That’s exactly why I used Biden as an example, he promised he was going to prioritize climate change yet he’s continuing to drill oil on federal land
He cancelled the Keystone pipeline and has cause America to become dependent on the middle east for energy again. The price of a gallon of gas has gone up over a dollar a gallon. His policies are already having an adverse effect on the country. If the so called "infrastructure" bill gets passed, it will be much worse.
@exitseven I am not a Democrat and if I were to have the choice to cancel the Keystone pipeline, I would have done the exact same because the Keystone pipeline crosses the prestige lands in which I grew up on. All those that support the Keystone pipeline don't care that it cuts right through tribal land. As a member of the Lakota Sioux land in which said people who push this pipeline says that I am my relatives have no right to have a say whether it runs through our tribal lands.
propoganda by fossil fuel industry and the corporate bought politicians who peddle it
No, that's not it. Guess again.
@Silas_314 yup thats correct. im not gonna buy into your bullshit
What bullshit? Oh, you mean actual science, which clearly demonstrates that this whole "global warming" scam isn't actually REAL.
By the way, no, I'm not a "Republican", don't care about Trump, don't work for the "fossil fuel industry", and don't listen to people who are clearly not scientists (like Greta Thunberg) when it comes to this issue.
@Silas_314 sigh... go cry to someone who cares ok? shoo
@Silas_314 is a well known troll who is constantly being banned for spreading lies and hatred. Notice how he had too start a whole new account. Sad :(
That IPCC report couldn't pass peer review unless they peer-reviewed each other. Their data are laughable and their prediction models are so far off that if you input data from the 1800's, they'd say we should all be dead by now.
I can see why you went Anon with this Einstein.
@EnglishEuropean can't argue with the facts, but ya gotta say SOMETHING, right? Lol.
Who makes their kid EnglishEuropean, anyway? That's a dumb name and your parents failed you
And you parents produced a retard. Go fuck yourself.
@EnglishEuropean *he said, hiding behind a veil of anonymity*
Yes accelerate nuke china and get rid of all manufacturing let's reset back to stone age and let the climate normalize a bit before the next humanity advances
We don’t have to do all that, we can still have progression as a society. Just with more regulation on stuff like global emissions since climate change is a serious global issue.
We also have the opposition of using renewable energy
The next time this ride crashes it's probably with very little survivors so we will see
@doopayo renewable energy sources are not reliable, we can help the environment more by planting more trees that have been destroyed over the decades to make way for huge construction projects. This earth was made to recycle the CO2 but when thousands of trees are removed and not replaced then it doesn't function properly. Oil and gas are perfected to be cleaner than ever before but without the trees to naturally recycle co2 into oxygen again, nothing is going to help the environment.
@allaboutyou2 renewable energy sources are reliable, especially when taking into account for the way the climate is being effected by the overuse of non renewable energy.
I’m not advocated for the complete eradication of the usage for non renewable energy. Im saying we need to put regulations on them so that we can be more environmentally friendly and do our best to prevent the worst effects of climate change.
Natural gas burns cleaner than coal — producing less air pollution — and it accounts for more than one-third of electric generation in the United States.
However, if produced irresponsibly, it creates serious environmental and health risks, and wastes a valuable energy resource.
This is why we need limitations on the usage of these as well as of course stopping the taking down of trees in the Amazon rain forest
@doopayo, the USA and most of Europe are responsible, it is China, India and Russia that do not care about the environment just care about money, if these 3 don't do what the rest of the responsible countries are doing then its a big waste of time.
The USA isn’t innocent, Biden’s continuing to drill oil despite promising before his presidency that he was going to care for the environment.
The US also produces around 12 million barrels of oil a day, we are the number one largest producer of crude oil.
The average carbon footprint for a person in the United States is 16 tons, one of the highest rates in the world. Globally, the average is closer to 4 tons.
We can reduce oil use to 0 if we return to monke
Science is a never ending debate. If you want something different try religion. OH WAIT U ALRDY HAVE even though you may not yet know it
Climate change, is not a debate.
climate science experts say there is no controversy when it comes to what is happening to the planet
97% of climate scientists agree the only explanation for the amount of warming is increased greenhouse gas emissions as a result of human activity.
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
First of all, don’t use commas where unnecessary just to sound smart.
Secondly, the debate is over the finer points, like what percentage of climate change is due to man’s activity. Then there is the debate over how to solve the problem. Just because an expert asserts something, even if a ton of experts agree, does NOT mean that there is no debate. This is what you need to get through your young, growing mind
Yes it does, I’ve already explained how the misinformation on climate change has been funded by the oil and gas industries yet you’re making excuses continually.
You aren’t even making an argument. You’re just saying “just because experts say it’s true doesn’t meant it’s true”
Well call me crazy, but I’d rather believe the experts that have spent their life studying the subject rather than the seedy politicians that are funded by lobbyist to spread disinformation on the subject.
What more proof do you need because at this point it sounds like willful ignorance
Here’s an argument, THERE ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE WITH OPINIONS THAT CONTRADICT YOUR OWN, OPEN YOUR FKN MIND KID! You don’t find truth by ignoring the minority opinion. Experts of their time believed the earth was flat. Done with you lol believe what you want, but your current outlook will never lead you to truth
Yet you continue to make zero argument whatsoever, you realize how retarded it is to say “trust me bro, there are people who disagree with you” like ok? Than explain to me how or earth is reaching all time high temperatures, why is California having wildfires more than usual. If you’re so smart and knowledgeable on the subject than talk about it like you actually are a sane human being
For the same reason that you have climate activists that will tell any lie to push their agenda.
Because to what degree we have an impact on it and when we expect an apocalyptic event is a very complicated subject.
I laugh at simple minded females like you. You believe everything that you read and have no ability to understand when you are being duped.
If you’re going to make an excuse as to why you can’t engage with my argument, at least make yourself look smart
haha yeah, females are stoopid.
There's a lot of things we don't know for sure about it and what we should be doing about it.
That’s not really conclusive, we know a lot of things about climate change we’ve been studying it for years and know the effect climate change will have on the world if we continue to go down the path we are now.
I’m order to fix this we need to drastically reduce our global emissions (which is the primary fault of only a few big corporations)
Sure but how are we going to do it? We have AOC's Green New Deal but I think that's a horrible plan. It involves making massive changes to the economy to promote products (or even mandate them like London is doing) that the general population doesn't have as much faith in yet. I think if the product is cheaper, easier to use and repairs are more widely available then I believe people will naturally be drawn to it, no state intervention needed.
Also, as far as I know the GND does nothing about the corporations and if that's true, typical for the state to stick up for the corporations that are contributing to a problem that allows the state to control the people with fear.
If you can't debate an issue then you have tyranny.
I doubt you know the definition of tyranny
Insulting my intelligence is not an argument.
There are things that are pretty much settled. No debate to be had.
@Still-alive You mean like that the Earth is flat, that it is the center of the universe, and the sun resolves around it? These were all once considered settled science; and you were a heretic if you tried to debate them.
We’re in 2021.. you realize that, right? Our technology is way more advanced
It has nothing to do with technology; it is about critical thought and the ability to question conventional wisdom.
Questioning climate change is questioning basic facts and knowledge. There’s already proof of climate change, you need to open your eyes and look at how climate change has been effecting third world countries for years. As well as climate change causing Texas to freeze over in a cold storm and causing California to burn up with wildfires
The motto of the Science Channel is "Question Everything" which I think is a good motto for anyone who aspires to be a scientist. Climates change; that is a fact as old as time. The questions at hand are we doing anything to cause it? Can we doing anything to stop it? And more importantly should we even try? Adaptation and evolution are driven in large part by the changes in our environments. As for the cold weather in Texas, you can't use a single weather event to say that climate is changing. And the California wildfires is in large part due to California's forest management policies.
Hey if you have concrete proof that climate change isn't real submit your paper to the scientific community. Im sure you'll be very convincing abd change everyones minds…
@Still-alive I never even claimed that climate change isn't real. Did you not read my last post where I specifically said that it is real?
“are we doing anything to cause it?” Yes the Fossil Fuel industry contribute the most to it
“Can we doing anything to stop it? “ we might not be able to stop it, but at this point we may bw able to lessen its effects or postpone itr a longer time. That window is closing though so we need to act immediately. I think we have until 2030 if we do nothing about it. Thats the point of no return
“And more importantly should we even try?“ yes, cause I guarantee you our kids and grandkids will wish we did the most we absolutely could do if they are fully in it.
You did, but youve drunk the right wing koolaid it seems. Its man made. That debate is settled by now.
@Still-alive "Yes the Fossil Fuel industry contribute the most to it" Sure but when they talk about cow farts being a major contributor as well; you have to wonder how big is the contribution from each of these sources? I mean a nickle contributes most of the value of 7 cents. So this statement sounds impressive; but actually has little meaning behind it.
"we might not be able to stop it, but at this point we may bw able to lessen its effects or postpone itr a longer time. That window is closing though so we need to act immediately. I think we have until 2030 if we do nothing about it. Thats the point of no return" People have been saying this since the 70s; saying that catastrophe is only 10-20 years off. Yet those 10-20 years pass and no catastrophe just a new ominous prediction of one from the same people who were wrong in the first place.
"yes, cause I guarantee you our kids and grandkids will wish we did the most we absolutely could do if they are fully in it." I think that they might be more concerned about all the freedoms we seem to be pissing away.
"You did, but youve drunk the right wing koolaid it seems. Its man made. That debate is settled by now. " There was Koolaid? Darn I missed out; oh well, they probably didn't put enough sugar in it or it was some weird flavor like kiwi banana. As for debate, declaring it over and yourself the victor is just a tactic that people who don't have a leg to stand on use to distract from their lack of a cogent argument.
I could show you peer reviewed articles and such to back all that up, but something tells me you aren’t interested in the truth…
@Still-alive Actually I like reading scientific articles. This is why I have a biology degree. But I would never dain to label such articles as "the truth." I would have to give up my scientist credentials if I was that imprudent. If you just take a peer reviewed article as "the truth" you have a strange world view. If you don't believe me on this issue then you should read this article.
areomagazine.com/.../
i didn't say "an" article, i said multiple articles. and also saying you're a biologist doesn't make you right either. i also kinda doubt you are to begin with.
@Still-alive Believe whatever you want to; just don't expect everyone else to fall in line with your thinking. Even if you have 50 academic papers backing your views. After all, what we know today could be disproven tomorrow and they reproofed in 50 years only to be disproven again in 100.
We will all see the truth soon anyways as long as you and people like you refuse to act.
Because it is still a debate.
Half of climate science itself is still in debate let alone it's hypotheses and conclusions on climate change.
Yeah the climate change with the seasons. Smh how dumb y'all are.
Thank Republican politics. They would rather die of the heat or suffocate than lose profits.
It's not that simple.
@Rachelspiks Really? I had no idea. Please do explain.
Politics in general sucks. Doesn’t matter if’s left, right, or sideways. It’s toxic as fuck. It’s all garbage.
The planet is finished just let the billionaires fuck off into space and nuke what's left
Really? You love Jeff Bezos that much?
No but that's what they are going to do regardless of what we common folks think about it
So what? CO2 is a trace gas that has no measurable effect on temperature.
As carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases heat up the planet, more water evaporates into the atmosphere, which in turn raises the temperature further.
This is literally information you can find on nasa’s website www.google.com/amp/s/climate.nasa.gov/causes.amp
@doopayo If you trust our government and mainstream media to tell you the truth, you are an indoctrinated and uninformed fool. Water vapor (clouds) is the earth's greenhouse gas, not CO2. At 1 part in 3,000, there is too little CO2 in the atmosphere to have any measurable effect on the earth's temperature. For billions of years, the earth has been losing CO2 from the atmosphere and is now CO2 starved. Because it would enhance plant growth, the earth needs more, not less CO2. 500 million years ago there was 12 to 20 times as much CO2 in the atmosphere and the temperature was about the same as now.
Yet you’re literally talking out of your ass. No cited proof or anything, of course I’d trust science over some random person in the internet that doesn’t even study the subject.
This is basic science, you should’ve learned in middle school 🤦🏽♀️
the debate is how to change climate change
It the will of God this time the earth burns
Don't be ridiculous.
Countries like China will never conform.
I feel like you answered a different question.
@EnglishEuropean Regarding climate change, you will never get countries like China to conform to what the climate change people want. Sorry I have to explain it for you. You don't get that information from the fake news.
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Bruh
Ask Charles Koch.