Guys, do you get little compassion and support from society because you're not a woman?

[TwinTonyz]

We get outright hatred from all parties and the only ones who don't hate us you're not allowed to join because then you automatically hate women. I was taught my entire life that I shouldn't mistreat, rape, abuse, beat, harass, or think less of women. I did nothing to be assumed evil other than be a boy. I was never taught to watch out for women who might abuse me. I was never taught that I'm allowed to defend myself when being attacked by women. I was taught that I must allow 3 free strikes because I'm allowed to defend myself. I'm always the problem in a relationship. When my girlfriend cheated it wasn't because she was a serial liar living a double life and wanted to get ran through at a party, it was because I wasn't doing enough to please her when working towards buying this house so she'd have a safe place to live. I wasn't the victim, I was the fucking perpetrator in that situation, somehow. So when the police were called after her accusing me of kidnapping her weeks after the break up, 17 days of no contact with her, was I surprised? Not as much as I should have been. I'm the born predator, what with my penis and all.

Maybe I didn't get my boys club privilege card. Maybe the club burned down. Being a woman, getting a pass to blame anyone else for the shit I do, then being celebrated as being strong af for it? Cake walk of a life if you ask me.

[MrOracle]

Society and government don't give a single shit about what happens to me. My parents/family care, and a few close friends, but beyond that, society looks at me and sees a man that needs to take care of himself, and has no sympathy for me if I can't or don't. I don't qualify for most "social safety net" programs because I am able-bodied and have a penis.

But at least I grew up understanding this to be true, and I'm used to carrying the weight and responsibility of this. Men, as a rule, don't have a "backup plan" or a "safety net" unless they built one of their own. We largely can't marry someone to gain financial security, or create an OnlyFans account. If we get injured or sick, and we don't have a wife or family, then we're left to our own devices. This is one reason the suicide rate for men is much higher - there's no way out for a lot of men. Homelessness is one injury or illness or lost job away for many men, and if you are older, many places won't hire you despite your skill and experience.

I think if women lived as a man for a week, they'd be shocked by how little anyone cares about them, how no one goes out of their way for them - in big ways or small - and how no one cares if they fail or if they're struggling. When women struggle, they usually have people - even strangers - who care, and many will step up and take care of them - again, even complete strangers. But men? That is nearly unheard of.

Men don't talk about this much - we all understand this truth, and there's little point in complaining about something that isn't likely to change - but it's definitely a weight we carry around every day.

[Datboi65]

While it's true that society gives women more compassion, I believe that there's an advantage of being stoic as a man. The world is a COLD place, so rather than try and make it easier, it's best to toughen up and take whatever is thrown in your way. I don't beg for anyone's sympathy, just use some common sense. A lot of what we talk about when we address modern women is not begging for their compassion, but to get them to take accountability and adjust. I don't have to tell you about my journey, or what type of shit I went through to get to where I am, because I don't see a reason in that. When it's all said and done, I want to be able to look back and say that I made myself proud of my accomplishments, rather than bitch and moan about what could've been if so and so happened. It's in women's nature to complain more, and I actually don't blame them for it. Just accept accountability when you do wrong, and you will be good to go 👍🏾

[Sonorous]

Oh yeah! But more importantly, since I'm not wealthy, influential, extremely good-looking, high status, etc. As I feel those factors have a greater impact on people's level of support.

Because if someone perceives you as being relatively high on a valued dominance hierarchy, they're more likely to respect you & treat you better than someone that is lower on it. It is the brutal nature of our species.

But who knows, maybe it needs to be this way in order for us to progress quickly or better our chances at survival? A necessary evil. After all, humans generally do better in life when we're surrounded by people that are good constructive influences. And low dominance people tend to have traits that aren't as constructive.

[OpenClose]

I wouldn't say it is so much because I'm "not a woman". Most of the lack of compassion guys get doesn't have much to do with women. I mean there are plenty of women who enforce it as much as men, and their opinions on the matter often carry more weight to men. But most of the issues stem from people seeing us as men, not from seeing us as "non-women".

It seems like a nitpicking technicality, but it's important. Many of men's issues don't necessarily stem from how we view women. People like to reduce this to misogyny. But the thing is, when women receive compassion when they are insecure or vulnerable, I think that is fair, and that's not the part that should change. What should change is having compassion as much compassion for men when they are also insecure or vulnerable.

[DJB72]

Things in the UK are softer now than 30 years ago thanks to high suicide rates in my generation. In South Africa it's still a very macho society so guys are generally expected to take the hut and shake it off.

It's utter bullshit

We're all human and emotions in the western society have been shaped by mostly American movies from John Wayne, Clint Eastwood and through to today's stuff where the "tough" guy doesn't show emotions, gets the girl and despatches the bad guy before breakfast. Reality is a broader spectrum than that

As he gets older I'll get my son watching movies like "Second Hand Lions" and Clint's later movies that are more emotive in their portrait of a man. I love "Unforgiven" as Eastwood shows the moral turmoil his aging gunfighter has. I'd rather my son be like the dad in "We Bought a Zoo" than the "Man with no name" characters from the Spaghetti Westerns

[Lionman95]

Maybe sometimes but I´m ok with the situation as is it.
I often times was told that talking too much and too detailed about my feelings just makes me a male dramaqueen and that no one wants that.
But I got used to the situation and found other ways to take care of my feelings.

[Lliam]

I don't give any thought to such things. Why would I try to second guess whether or not I got as much compassion and support as women? That's for whiners. I lived my life and love being a heterosexual man. Women have their own challenges.

It seems to be popular these days to see discrimination everywhere? People need to pull up their socks and stop complaining.

[TruthBringer]

Any person who claims that women have it harder in society when there is plenty of evidence to contradict is is living in an echo-chamber (probably a feminist one). How about I take the word of a woman who pretended to be a man and ended up becoming miserable after she found out how cruel the world is towards men:https://www.youtube.com/embed/FT_eJukORkM

[TheSpaceGnome]

No, I get little compassion and support from society because I rarely interact with society, and also because most of society just doesn't randomly support people.

What is it you think women are getting that men aren't? because in my experience both genders have the same experience aside from women having an easier time dating because they are allowed to flirt publically without negative consequences.

[Anonymous]

I would be fine with that just being left alone, it's the automatic suspicion, the constant refrain of "men are bad" " men are all driven by sex" "kill all men" " the future is female" etc etc that makes me want to go away forever.

It doesn't matter anymore if you're a good person, if you're a man you're automatically wrong, evil, guilty..

[DaveJord]

White males get little compassion and support form society in general. That's just a fact. We are privileged class don't you know? :-/

As a white guy we don't have to work, pay bills, support families, get pulled over, cook, clean, do laundry, stay home with the kids instead of partying all night, or deal with assholes all day... everyone does everything for us.

Sarcasm intended.