I would not go that far, but there should be ways to have it covered. The stupid crap they have where you can’t do it and if you do you are reading away the fathers rights, even if it was rape. Why? Of course it was all men saying this.
2 things… this question was asked by a man and wasn’t gender limited… 2 wasn’t it mostly men that are taking roe vs wade? Just curious.
Now shut up and get back in the kitchen. Lmao jk. But seriously if you think your decisions don’t effect men then rethink yourself. If men are held to a standard based off what it does to the children or the women then women can damn well be held to the same standard.
So if a woman gets raped and becomes pregnant, irrelevant men should get to decide whether she keeps the fetus or not? Yeah, don’t think so. Go away with your irrelevant nonsense.
Always with the rape with you women… you understand according to planned parenthood themselves less then 2% of all abortions are a combination of rape/incest… it’s like 1.8%…
Besides this it’s not the babies fault so no you shouldn’t be able to kill it…
Further besides this even if I were to agree with abortion in this circumstance… it don’t change anything I said… in the next week abortion will no longer be an option and you’ll have to consider if the sex is worth it.
Let’s force a painful, horrible experience for women who can not have normal births, are not ready to be mothers, or will die in the process because ima dumbass… no choices are made and you can face the consequences.
Contraception at most is 99% effective. Not 100%. And rape can occur at any moment, whether you personally care or not. I think it’s time men took some accountability instead of blaming this all on women.
Plus, if all women decided to abstain, men would find a way to bitch about that too. So your logic is incredibly flawed. I’m not wasting more time in this comment thread.
@lawhawk I didn't say nothing, I said a man doesn't have a final say in abortion. It's good to have opinions and it's better to discuss beforehand your values with said partner.
@anon1903 why shouldn't i have a say if she doesn't want the child but I do? shouldn't I just get custody after it is born and she can pay child support? The opposite would be true.
this argument is dumb you chose to have sex you knew the possibilities of getting pregnant you could have avoided sex no one is forcing you because if they were it would not be sex.
@anon1903 yes you are right there’s bad men out there… and I supported safe, legal, rare because of it… but hundreds of millions of abortions per years not bad men… it’s bad choices.
The women that abstain for at least a few dates I respect. Everyone has urges. But if you just take the time to see if these men are worthy of giving your coochi to then how many abortions are avoided? And if the men run away cause they ain’t getting sex it means their not what you want? Are you so desperate for a man you have to sell your body to him to get him to stay? Ide leave faster if a woman couldn’t control herself.
“Let’s discuss beforehand.” When your one night stand discusses keeping the baby how’s that gonna work? When the poor family discusses keeping the child they wanna abort cause they can’t afford it what’s gonna change? The real benefit to outlawing abortion isn’t getting rid of abortion it’s taking away the clear “permission” aspect telling people that can’t care for a child it’s okay to have crazy sex with 100s of people because you can just kill the baby.
The effectiveness of contraception shouldn’t even be a consideration… first comes the condom which is 99% effective on it own! Also consider the insert which I can’t remember but I think it’s higher 80% as well… then the pill that’s like 80+%… then finally plan B which is 86% effective… Not including other practices like avoiding your ovulating cycle and pulling out… The odds of having an unwanted child if you practice all these is so god damn minuscule it’s almost astronomically impossible. I’ve had sex far more then you I promise lol. No kids. Sexually active for 12 years nothing… that’s without condoms or inserts and in many cases without the pill… That JUST because of my pullout game.
So condom is 99% effective… this don’t mean one in 100 times will give you a child that means you could have a child on the first time, 3 in a row, or none after thousands of attempts. Now consider the pill on top…
Hundreds of thousands of abortions per year. My bad.
Also that 1% chance of pregnancy with the pill being 80% effective that 1% turns into 0.2% chance of pregnancy… consider the insert at 80% means 0.16% chance of pregnancy. Not including pullout… that’s not 16% or 1.6% that’s 0.16%! You have literally millions of times more risk driving to work once a week.
@woman_2004 don’t get me wrong I still support safe, legal, rare. I don’t want women to have abortion taken away… under the right circumstances. Like most things we have taken the inch it gives and just ran with it. If your parading through the streets wearing pussy hats defending killing babies even celebrating it… it’s wrong and if it takes us taking that privilege away to fix our way of thinking I agree.
Personally I only see abortion as essential if the mother's life, the child's life or both are in danger if the baby is brought to term. Otherwise it should be murder after a heartbeat is detected.
In and only in a context that the woman's health is at risk from the pregnancy and with the caveat that every thing that can be done to save the life of the child is also done.
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It can be if the mother's life or health is in danger.
Otherwise, the right of a mother to kill her child in utero for her own convenience is not "essential healthcare".
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I would not go that far, but there should be ways to have it covered. The stupid crap they have where you can’t do it and if you do you are reading away the fathers rights, even if it was rape. Why? Of course it was all men saying this.
I’m pro life so there’s your answer
Proud of you not being afraid of putting that out there. Peace
Can’t please everyone so might as well say whatever you want and be honest
Same here
Hope you never have an ectopic pregnancy
I hope so too!
Beautiful!
It's not essential healthcare, but if a woman is getting an abortion, she should be bale to get proper medical care.
Noticed the amount of people that said no is men 🤦♀️
Notice how it’s mostly men who voted no. As if their opinion on womens healthcare is actually relevant 🤡
Yeah, they just love to shobe their opinions down our throats
2 things… this question was asked by a man and wasn’t gender limited… 2 wasn’t it mostly men that are taking roe vs wade? Just curious.
Now shut up and get back in the kitchen. Lmao jk. But seriously if you think your decisions don’t effect men then rethink yourself. If men are held to a standard based off what it does to the children or the women then women can damn well be held to the same standard.
So if a woman gets raped and becomes pregnant, irrelevant men should get to decide whether she keeps the fetus or not? Yeah, don’t think so. Go away with your irrelevant nonsense.
Always with the rape with you women… you understand according to planned parenthood themselves less then 2% of all abortions are a combination of rape/incest… it’s like 1.8%…
Besides this it’s not the babies fault so no you shouldn’t be able to kill it…
Further besides this even if I were to agree with abortion in this circumstance… it don’t change anything I said… in the next week abortion will no longer be an option and you’ll have to consider if the sex is worth it.
He's a jerk. Block him.
Let’s force a painful, horrible experience for women who can not have normal births, are not ready to be mothers, or will die in the process because ima dumbass… no choices are made and you can face the consequences.
You're spitting facts, sis
Motherhood should be a choice
It is a choice. You have contraception you have abstinence… if you choose to do the act you choose to get pregnant. No freaking accountability.
Contraception at most is 99% effective. Not 100%. And rape can occur at any moment, whether you personally care or not. I think it’s time men took some accountability instead of blaming this all on women.
Plus, if all women decided to abstain, men would find a way to bitch about that too. So your logic is incredibly flawed. I’m not wasting more time in this comment thread.
Some women DO abstain and there are men who break up with her or cheat because "things were going too slow" lol
Yes because women can get pregnant without a guy being involved right? The father's opinion means nothing?
@lawhawk I didn't say nothing, I said a man doesn't have a final say in abortion. It's good to have opinions and it's better to discuss beforehand your values with said partner.
I guess you can get pregnant on your own now 2022 😂 I pray for her
@anon1903 why shouldn't i have a say if she doesn't want the child but I do? shouldn't I just get custody after it is born and she can pay child support? The opposite would be true.
@lawhawk if you're willing to take full custody, yes you should definitely get the final say
@lawhawk it's good to discuss beforehand with your partner where you stand on this matter
As if 2 wrong suddenly make a right. Rape from human a. doesn't justify murder of human b.
@VanillaSalt of of the languages you could have spoken you chose to speak the languages of facts
this argument is dumb you chose to have sex you knew the possibilities of getting pregnant you could have avoided sex no one is forcing you because if they were it would not be sex.
if you were not ready to be a mother then you should not have had sex
@Kjoseph66 and sexism
@Kjoseph66 it takes two to tango. Why did the man fuck me? Lmao
@anon1903 I am concerned over the fact that you are older than me
@Kjoseph66 yes kiddo. Go play halo or something 😂
@anon1903 who?
@anon1903 asked
@Kjoseph66 that would have been more powerful if you didn't g l i t c h like that XD
@anon1903 he is also responsible which is why I also think you should wait until marriage
@Kjoseph66 that's just your opinion. People don't have to follow it.
@anon1903 yeah but I'm right the sexual liberation was and still is preposterous
@anon1903 and people are not required to have sex
@Kjoseph66 don't state your opinion like facts or something, bruh
@anon1903 yes you are right there’s bad men out there… and I supported safe, legal, rare because of it… but hundreds of millions of abortions per years not bad men… it’s bad choices.
The women that abstain for at least a few dates I respect. Everyone has urges. But if you just take the time to see if these men are worthy of giving your coochi to then how many abortions are avoided? And if the men run away cause they ain’t getting sex it means their not what you want? Are you so desperate for a man you have to sell your body to him to get him to stay? Ide leave faster if a woman couldn’t control herself.
“Let’s discuss beforehand.” When your one night stand discusses keeping the baby how’s that gonna work? When the poor family discusses keeping the child they wanna abort cause they can’t afford it what’s gonna change? The real benefit to outlawing abortion isn’t getting rid of abortion it’s taking away the clear “permission” aspect telling people that can’t care for a child it’s okay to have crazy sex with 100s of people because you can just kill the baby.
The effectiveness of contraception shouldn’t even be a consideration… first comes the condom which is 99% effective on it own! Also consider the insert which I can’t remember but I think it’s higher 80% as well… then the pill that’s like 80+%… then finally plan B which is 86% effective… Not including other practices like avoiding your ovulating cycle and pulling out… The odds of having an unwanted child if you practice all these is so god damn minuscule it’s almost astronomically impossible. I’ve had sex far more then you I promise lol. No kids. Sexually active for 12 years nothing… that’s without condoms or inserts and in many cases without the pill… That JUST because of my pullout game.
So condom is 99% effective… this don’t mean one in 100 times will give you a child that means you could have a child on the first time, 3 in a row, or none after thousands of attempts. Now consider the pill on top…
Hundreds of thousands of abortions per year. My bad.
Also that 1% chance of pregnancy with the pill being 80% effective that 1% turns into 0.2% chance of pregnancy… consider the insert at 80% means 0.16% chance of pregnancy. Not including pullout… that’s not 16% or 1.6% that’s 0.16%! You have literally millions of times more risk driving to work once a week.
Lol oh shit another mistake! Actually the math is 0.04% chance of pregnancy… my bad last update.
@VanillaSalt This logic at its finest. 😭👏👏👏
No one can argue this.. even if they tried—it couldn’t stand. x
@VanillaSalt statistically 0
@woman_2004 don’t get me wrong I still support safe, legal, rare. I don’t want women to have abortion taken away… under the right circumstances. Like most things we have taken the inch it gives and just ran with it. If your parading through the streets wearing pussy hats defending killing babies even celebrating it… it’s wrong and if it takes us taking that privilege away to fix our way of thinking I agree.
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@woman_2004 lol so since they couldn’t argue they reported all my posts as spamming or trolling. Oh well I was bored anyway.
People die if it's not allowed so yeah that's pretty necessary.
Life is winning in this poll, just like in the US💪🏻
Personally I only see abortion as essential if the mother's life, the child's life or both are in danger if the baby is brought to term. Otherwise it should be murder after a heartbeat is detected.
generally no. in very specific instances, it can be. we should put exceptions for medical cases, where the woman will not survive giving birth.
For the first 8 weeks it is. After that, there’s another life form whose first heartbeat suggests they need essential health care too.
Yes. Only a woman hating moron would say otherwise.
Just because people don't want to sleep with trannies like you doesn't mean they hate women.
It takes a evil woman to even state that anomaly.
In and only in a context that the woman's health is at risk from the pregnancy and with the caveat that every thing that can be done to save the life of the child is also done.
It can be if the mother's life or health is in danger.
Otherwise, the right of a mother to kill her child in utero for her own convenience is not "essential healthcare".
I don't know that I'd go that far but it IS needed, in some cases.
not unless it is deemed harmful to the mother's health.
many see it as a means of "fixing" a mistake.
therein lies much of the issue.
Taking the life of an unborn human baby is murder. How could anyone consider this health care?
Umyes, but so us Chemotherapy. But people without cancer don't get Chemo. It is essential in certain cases. NOT FOR CONVINCE SAKE
What do you mean by abortion? Do you mean a few days after conception or a day before delivery?
Only when the mom is in danger of dying… not if a 16 year old slept with a 15 year old boy for fun and whoops
Why do you need one?
Majority of the states will let you have one if your gonna die
Condoms spermicide plan b sponge is health care