If an accident were to occur, and a kid were to come out of it, and the woman didn't want me to be involved, I would feel like absolute crap if I didn't at least do what I could to try and provide a better life for the child I took part in creating. Even if that meant having to live poor for the rest of my life because the majority of my $$$ went to the mother to help raise the child. The only thing I would have a problem with is if that mom was a narcissist and used the money to lavish on her own self, while leaving the child in the dust, but I guess that wouldn't be something I'd have control over anyway...
Meh, if you leave a child with no home no good and no money, they die. You obviously never raised a child. You actually have to do things to keep your son alive😂😂
Same with women doing the same. I wished you'd just admit the adversity instead of making like you women are angels , which you really aren't. You all are just as guilty. Stop the lies and deception .
Yes only if both parties have already agreed that they would terminate the pregnancy but the mother still end up deciding to go ahead and have the baby instead.
@anon1903 you are right. the whole point is she doesn’t agree to it. If she agreed to forfeit the ability to sue the father there would be no point to the discussion.
@Sixgunsound I think parenthood is not for everyone. Better to discuss these matter, and if accidents happen and your partner decides to keep the kid nonetheless, walk out
Rights and responsibilities are not the same. Men relinquish their “parenting rights” all the time in the US, often through no choice of their own. However, men’s parenting responsibilities are very rarely removed.
Sarcasm aside. How can anyone look their kid in the eye and explain to them why they walked away? One day that would happen. “I didn’t want to put in the effort or pay for you.”
Healthy would be the child having both parents. But one resigned from the role. Is it fair that he didn't raise it and suddenly realised one day it's his bloodline? Spare me the "healthy" bs XD
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No. The financial help is there for the sake of the child which is as much the fathers responsibility as the mothers.
If an accident were to occur, and a kid were to come out of it, and the woman didn't want me to be involved, I would feel like absolute crap if I didn't at least do what I could to try and provide a better life for the child I took part in creating. Even if that meant having to live poor for the rest of my life because the majority of my $$$ went to the mother to help raise the child. The only thing I would have a problem with is if that mom was a narcissist and used the money to lavish on her own self, while leaving the child in the dust, but I guess that wouldn't be something I'd have control over anyway...
How could that work, exactly?
A court can only deal with something that can be represented in court. An unborn cannot be such.
it should be allowed but have the exact same conditions as a woman's abortion
and to him the child is dead and has no father
he can't go back to the child after that
Yes, because in that case the man would not be killing his son, while, in female abortion, the woman is killing her son.
The man should not be responsible for any child.
Female abortion should be illegal in all cases, even in cases of rape.
Meh, if you leave a child with no home no good and no money, they die. You obviously never raised a child. You actually have to do things to keep your son alive😂😂
@captain-obvious
Why should abortion be illegal even if a woman or a girl got raped?
No. If you can't keep your dick in your pants, you don't deserve to abort any child.
And if you would keep your legs together than neither do you
@Djaay
men have bigger sex drive than women and often times they pressure women to have sex.
Same other way around with women
@Djaay
nope
Lmao... Wishful thinking. Who told you all those lies... lmao again.
@Djaay
men trick women in to bed all the time.
So you saying women are stupid then... since they're always being tricked. Coures women never trick or baby trap or gold dig men.
@Djaay
there is never an excuse to justify lack of morals.
I agree... now remember what u just said and apply that to ur comment.
@Djaay
tricking women into bed is a lack of morals
Same with women doing the same. I wished you'd just admit the adversity instead of making like you women are angels , which you really aren't. You all are just as guilty. Stop the lies and deception
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@Djaay
women aren't sexual predators; men are sexual predators.
its scientifically proven men have significantly higher sex drives than women.
You're very confused and spreading lies to suit your opinionated agenda assist men.. You are a sexist.
@Djaay
I think you're a woman hater.
Nope... Not even close... just don't have any interest in women who act other than they're supposed to.
@Djaay
you're the one marrying your own great granddaughter.
Oh... OK.
Yes only if both parties have already agreed that they would terminate the pregnancy but the mother still end up deciding to go ahead and have the baby instead.
Only if she agrees to it and waives all welfare benefits, also. I’m sick of my taxes going to support everyone else’s kids.
Why stop there? Why not just cancel welfare in it’s entirety in the entire country?
I don't think she necessarily has to agree.
@Sixgunsound I’m okay with that, too.
@anon1903 you are right. the whole point is she doesn’t agree to it. If she agreed to forfeit the ability to sue the father there would be no point to the discussion.
@Sixgunsound I think parenthood is not for everyone. Better to discuss these matter, and if accidents happen and your partner decides to keep the kid nonetheless, walk out
I know a guy can sign his rights awaybut not sure if baby isn't born yet can he do that?
Rights and responsibilities are not the same. Men relinquish their “parenting rights” all the time in the US, often through no choice of their own. However, men’s parenting responsibilities are very rarely removed.
Emotionally yes. It makes things even.
Logically no. If you decide not to pay, I have to through my taxes.
If she can. He can. If she can't. He can't.
If he can. She can. If he can't. She can't.
This sounds like a Dead Beat Dads Charter. Disappointing to see so much support for this dumb idea.
Nah. I think that would pretty much obviate the whole point of child support to begin with. You know--to support the child.
Yes, but only if women have a right to abort as well. Those two rights should go hand in hand. The fact they haven't before now is barbaric.
Yes, assuming he is actually the father - it's hard to tell before the child is born.
They should have the right to abort it physically. If its actually half theirs
Women get to, too. We can give a baby up for adoption or abort (in some places). So I say yes.
You don't want a child and the responsibility of being one in them get you a blow up doll
Nit in America 😂😂 even the woman has no rights
@wittymilf The women has the only rights in this matter.
Only if the condom broke.
Sarcasm aside. How can anyone look their kid in the eye and explain to them why they walked away? One day that would happen. “I didn’t want to put in the effort or pay for you.”
He'd never get to meet the child. He gave up the rights remember?
@anon1903 I was thinking when they went looking for him.
They can. After I'm died living a long life.
@anon1903 You think it would be healthy them not having their own closure with their father?
Healthy would be the child having both parents. But one resigned from the role. Is it fair that he didn't raise it and suddenly realised one day it's his bloodline? Spare me the "healthy" bs XD
@anon1903 Check the temper. It’s a fictional conversation. lol BS is keeping a kid from their father.
It's infuriating that a parent who WASN'T INVOLVED in the first place gets ANYTHING
Which is not to say if the kid is 18+ and wants to do a little treasure hunt involving their father, have at it. It'd be amusing.
@anon1903 Even if the guy is an ass, the kid might want to see that for themselves to let it go and move on with their lives.
Treasure hunt it is!
@anon1903 possibly
Our body, our choice.