You are stronger than me
This is pretty good especially for your weight, when did you start weight training if I may ask?
Thanks 😊I started in September but took a break in December and the beginning of January.
Wow you are a beast 😁 I am really happy for you 🙂 What is your proudest lift? 🤨
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Jesus Chris. 5'8" and 240? Tell me you took steroids. These numbers are not normal for your size.
@Benedek38 Never said I was solid muscle. Could stand to lose a few pounds for sure
Oh come on, be honest with me. Your lifts are low for your size, and for you to be natural you'd have to have been 30+% bodyfat. It makes no logical sense for a natural guy to have an insaney strong base, and just put on a shitton of fat, and only minimally increase his lifts. Something's fishy.
@Benedek38 I was probably around 25-30% boyfriend, and by “regularly” I mean a few hours a week. Most of my bulk comes from hard work, not working out. That’s why my max and rep weights don’t really match, I’ve always been work strong, not gym strong.
You know, this all sounds like bullshit. No such thing as work strong or gym strong. You either hit hypertrophy or not. And physical labour does NOT stimulate hypertrophy, especially not in the pectoral region.And at 30% bodyfat you'd have looked like a fat piece of... You know what, and you'd still be at the absolute top end of what is humanly achievable. You pretend you don't know how to work out, and that you're just a "naturally strong guy" (how many times have I heard that excuse from juicers), yet you have a top athlete, while you claim you're just a casual gym goer. This is not normal. It goes against everything we know about getting stronger. Physical labour actually works AGAINST strength building, due to no progressive overload. i'll give you one chance. Post a picture of your physique.
@Benedek38 Not sure what you’re so confused about. Yeah, strong is strong. But some people apply it differently. You’re saying you don’t know anyone that doesn’t put up great numbers in the gym, but is just freak of nature strong when it comes to real world use (picking up and moving heavy shit)? My numbers aren’t terribly impressive for my size, but when it comes to general heavy lifting I can frequently outlift guys that have better gym stats. And absolutely you build muscle from heavy labour. I know a lot of big, beefy dudes that haven’t been to a gym in their life. Do you really not know anyone like that?
I work blue collar and I completely understand what @Redstang88 is talking about. I couldn't do shit in the gym if you paid me (nor would I even want to, honestly), but I can hold my own or better getting shit done on a job site with guys twice my size or bigger and/or even younger.
Also I'm 5'6" and 170 pounds.
@NYCQuestions1976 He can’t spend much time around guys that work in the trades I’d he doesn’t believe that. One of the guys I work with turned 60 this, about my height and probably doesn’t weigh as much as you, he’s gotta be as strong as me. Just a freak of nature
I've worked with a number of dudes like that over the years. They could carry a 10' length of 3" galvanized pipe around by themselves (usually 2 guys on a length of pipe that size) like it was a drinking straw. One guy worked exclusively with 4" and 5" galvanized pipe. Scary fucking dude.
@Redstang88"Yeah, strong is strong. But some people apply it differently."No. There are two kinds of strength. 1) Muscle mass2) Muscle memory. Muscle mass is derived from subjecting the muscle to hypertrophy - that is, lifting as heavy as you can. You don't get this by lifting crates all day, or shoveling concrete - you need to hit a very specific amount of your maximal strength to achieve hypertrophy, and you have to lift in small volumes, which is not conducive to working out. Muscle memory is increasing the easy at which certain movements are performed - for example, if you bench often, with progressively more weights, after a while your nervous system will be accustomed to the movement, and will be able to perform it more easily. Physical labour once more, is not conducive to this either, because most lifts, but benches and squats especially, are not the kinds of movements you perform in your day to day work. Deadlift, maybe. But you don't ATG squat a cynderblock, do you?So as you can see, there ARE forms of strength that are derived from physical labour - typically core strength, calves, grip, and overall endurance. But your bench and squat numbers should NOT be raised by those. Additionally physical labour leads to overworking your body, so no recovery, which is not ideal to muscle building. You said you were around 25-30 boyfriend. At your weight and height that would put you in the 27.8 - 26 range in terms of fat free mass index. The naturally achievable limit is usually 25. Olympians tend to hit 25, with rigorous training. Professional bodybuilders go above it using steroids. You claim your FFMI is at least 26, with little to no training, and no anabolic steroids. You also don't have myostatin deficiency, hence your high bodyfat. This doesn't add up. Either you aren't 240 lbs, or you aren't 30% bodyfat, or you aren't 5'8", or you aren't natural. [continued]
@Redstang88Out of all of the things you said the most realistic really were your lifts. I can believe those numbers at your weigh, though I just said that I don't think that was your real weight, so there's that. "freak of nature strong when it comes to real world use"Yeah that's not a real thing. There's no separate gym strong and real life strong. That's not a thing, just a stupid myth perpetuated by people who doN't want to work out, but think they are strong. "My numbers aren’t terribly impressive for my size, but when it comes to general heavy lifting I can frequently outlift guys that have better gym stats."Oh yes, the mythical "I can outlift gym guys because I am a strong worker" story. Doesn't work like that. "I know a lot of big, beefy dudes"Are you really this much of an idiot? Beefy = fat. If you eat like a pig, and gain 40 lbs, yes, some of that WILL BE muscle if you at least move a bit. But if you don't train, it will be 20% muscle. Or 10% muscle. If you train, it's 40 or 50%. Sure, you can balloon up to 280 lbs, but you won't be much stronger if you don't know how to train your body. Besides, I've already told you my criteria. Show a picture, or it didn't happen. 5'8" , 25-30% boyfriend and 240 lbs is superhuman genetics.
@NYCQuestions1976 " I couldn't do shit in the gym if you paid me (nor would I even want to, honestly), but I can hold my own or better getting shit done on a job site with guys twice my size or bigger and/or even younger. "1) read my comment above about muscle memory. 2) Are you sure you can actually hold your own against ACTUALLY strong men, or do you just pick on gym bros who are otherwise weak as a feather? Because I see a lot of gym bros who brag about their weak lifts a lot, but the actually strong people usually don't look that strong, nor do they talk about it. "Also I'm 5'6" and 170 pounds."Taht doesn't mean shit. Bo. Dy. Fat. Percentage. Also, 5'6" and 170 with a starter beergut for a worker is perfectly average. 240 for a 5'8" guy is insane. That's wider than it is tall. "could carry a 10' length of 3" galvanized pipe around by themselves (usually 2 guys on a length of pipe that size) like it was a drinking straw. One guy worked exclusively with 4" and 5" galvanized pipe. Scary fucking dude. "See that's what I am talking about. The average 5" thick pipe is around 30 kilos per meter. That's around 90 kilos per 10 feet, or 198 lbs. Most average gym guys can lift that easily and carry it around for you. The heaviest 3" pipe I have found was 21 kg/m, that's 65 kg or 143 lbs for a 10 foot piece. I can easily throw that shit over my shoulder, and I've never worked a day in a blue collar job. This magical "worker strength" you believe in - it's bollocks.
@Benedek38 Dude... that's a LOT of typing. No need to 'roid rage. It's. All. Going. To. Be. Okay.Have you ever worked with electrical installation galvanized pipe? Your numbers are off. If you got your numbers off the Standard 40 Table, that's not the pipe we use. A 10' length of 4" galvanized pipe is around 200 pounds.
@NYCQuestions1976 No need to be condescending, you're the more ignorant of the two of us. And "roid rage" is not an actual thing. Maybe you should have listened back in biology classes..."Have you ever worked with electrical installation galvanized pipe?"Yes. I am a hobby blacksmith, I work with all kinds of metal I can use, so I have handled pipes, railroad track cutouts, I beams, T beams, you name it. "A 10' length of 4" galvanized pipe is around 200 pounds."It depends on the thickness of the pipe wall really. Bit once again, 200 lbs is not that heavy. I often carry that much around in the gym, plus I have an 80 kilo (176) anvil, and that's pretty easy to move around too. Then there are the acetilene welding canisters, those are around 120 kg or 264 lbs... Again those pipes are not that heavy at all.
@Benedek38 Okay thanks.
Ignore that benedek twat have had talks with him before he knows fuck all and thinks the whole world is on juice just because he's a sissy femmeboy
Gym strength AKA form lifting/iso lifts restrictive lifting VS FUNCTIONAL STRENGTH i. e compound lifting. Climbing. Fighting. Working. Yes it is a thing benedek stop looking like a noob in life
Roid rage isn't a thing? Go bash up a gram of tren a week and tell me roid rage doesn't exist or even oxymethelone
@everydayimshovellin Amazing. You're a complete idiot.
@everydayimshovellin by the way I love that you say "he thinks everyone's in roids"... But turns out you're in roids. Fuck outa here, bitch.
Yeah i run TRT thats a bit different to shooting up stacks ffs lol go play with your little brother ya nonce
@everydayimshovellin "I just run TRT" is still steroids. What's your blood test concentration?
Fuck up your body? Oof I ain't fucking myself up.
well think what you want its ur decision. And i actually already fucked up my wrist cuz i did stupid things in gym. Trust me i know a lot "old school guys" , you will fuck up your body one time
who the fuck disliked this, dude who disliked probably mad cuz all he got is leg press 100kg lmao
Been workingout seriously since the end of August in 2018
If thats you in your profile pic your a liar lol
Its a 3 year old picture from when I was 14. Im 17 in 2 months. I haven't changed profile pic since my first gag account so I wanna keep it.
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Someone's been doing that Rich Piana 8 hour bicep workout I see.
You mean 10 lbs more right? Because 10 times more would make you a gorilla
Of course haha