Should Male to female transgender athletes be allowed to compete with females?

[dipta]

They’re allowed to based on T levels, but should really not.
The segregation of males and females in high competition sports directly relates to biological differences - where every small difference counts - and should not be intertwined with politics or gender identity issues.

Sorry, but I don’t care if someone may identify themselves as a woman. Even if their T levels have dropped, in essence their body is still biologically male, i. e. bigger frame, bone density, muscle density, higher lung capacity, bigger hearts, etc.

Which brings another controversial issue I may very well get downvoted just by mentioning... should people from different races compete together?
The answer isn’t simple because it’s made political and we’ve now many mixed athletes as well, but clearly an Asian individual doesn’t have the same physical structure or power of a black individual. Which is why they dominate in completely different sports.

[_Tou24che_l]

Hell no. They will have the strength of a guy regardless. Also what is with your liberal comment? Are you trumptards that stupid? Get some common sense dude

[MrOracle]

You should compete with your biological gender, regardless of what you decide to change yourself. That's the entire reason for separating men and women's sports in the first place.

If men and women competed in sports, most female athletes wouldn't have a job, because they simply wouldn't be competitive. That's the whole purpose of having female leagues: so that an entire league of women could compete just as men do. It gives far more women an opportunity to shine.

If you allow people to "choose" against their biology, then you introduce big imbalances. Essentially, you'd have M2F transgenders winning most sports (which I think is exactly what we're going to see happening where it's already allowed), and that's not fair, anymore than letting men into women's leagues to take the top prizes.

The separation has ALWAYS been along biological lines, and should remain so.

[Anonymous]

Yes, because it makes it infinitely more entertaining by adding a little comedy. Have you ever seen a man dressed a woman punching the shit out of a woman? It's a little sad but hilarious aswell to see how much more physically superior we are.

[Anonymous]

Yes. It gives them a taste of reality.
Most women go ape shit when women can't compete with men. They call it sexism and think they should be allowed too, so it's funny to see them get fucking schooled by a male pretending to be a female.
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I remember when females insisted they be allowed in the NHL so this one wannabe became a goalie (for like 2 games) and then learned very quickly that women are NOT capable of the same level of strength, agility, and speed as men.

Same goes for firefighters, police, and military... You are NOT capable of the level of work needed for those jobs. SO when you force them to take out the physical fitness exam for "fairness... PEOPLE GET HURT!
Like a chihuahua wanting to be a guard dog. It isn't sensible.

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[normalice]

No.

To be clear, I'm a liberal in all the ways that count. But I've never really understood why liberals took up the trans cause. Seems a very conservative cause to me - insisting others pretend to believe something with no evidence offered to support it. I get why liberals would take up opposition to violence and denial of human rights. But the pronoun bullshit or anything else beyond that is conservative territory. A liberal solution would be more akin to establishing a third "other-gender" category in sports.

[0112358]

I don’t know where the line describing the edge of the female division should be and the rules need to recognize intersex athletes. They exist and you need rules around them and ideally rules handle both because they end up with similar issues for different reasons.

I suspect something regarding hormone levels for a long enough duration is probably the most fair. Perfect no but the closest to fair. Yes I’m aware there are permanent impacts of bone density changes etc.

Whether or not you have a penis isn’t all that great a line quite obviously. Neither is self identification. There needs to be a physical division.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

Nope. It is unfair for simple reasons. They are still Male, and thus more physically adept and capable. It's stupid really, herein we see the exact proof of transgenderism being wrong and nothing more than an illness of the mind. You can't switch your God given gender, and, "identifying" as the other sex changes nothing de facto. Not even sex operations can change the fundamental buildup of our DNA, and our higher levels of either testosterone or estrogen, and male or female chromosomes. This postmodern phenomena of appeasement is such a moronic trend.

[Exterminatore]

Yes they should. I couldn’t be more supportive of the idea. Especially in sports like boxing and MMA. This way the world can watch a penisless guy with fake tits beat the living crap out of several woman and become a champion. Hopefully those women will end up severely injured and their careers will be ended as a result of a bout with someone who is really a man despite what they think.

Hopefully the result of this will be for the world to see changing genitals doesn’t make you a member of the gender you wish to be. That the concept is absolutely ludicrous and degenerate. Hopefully all, even current supporters will see what a monstrosity this changing of genders business is, and seek to outlaw it world wide and make it not socially acceptable where it currently is.

[Anonymous]

No - You may look like a woman and identify as one but they’re still a biological man. And men are faster, stronger, muscles and just better physically than women. It was the way they were made to be.

I just watched a short story on this subject on YouTube and I honestly feel so sorry for the girl.

https://youtu.be/NIlq85dL0C4

They should compete against other transgender women in stead of natural biological women because it’s not fair.

[SpiderManFan2002]

No, because they may identify as a female, and they can have all the estrogen injections they like to have female qualities but that still doesn't change the fact they're born with certain features which give them an advantage like a larger heart.

If they really want to compete in a sport they should have their own level of sport.

[andreasderjuengere]

I see sports as a friendly competition;
why i. e. is it called Olympic … GAMES ! ? (''professional'' sports is a different thing - a perversion of the original concept of sports).
Therefore, in general a separation of genders -no matter how many- makes no sense to me.
I am irritated by your term ''allow''
Who makes the rules?

[Bananaman177]

Women are the ones who have been primarily voting for all this social justice, gender-bending crap. As usual, women prove that they're much cleverer than men, they can outsmart themselves twice as fast.

[LeeKenz]

I want to say yes, but being as their bodies are still the physique of a male, (unless they've gone through surgery) and of course unless they're taking hormones. The the competition, unfortunately would be unparalleled.

There are some women who could probably beat them. But who knows

[AuroraRoseat]

I believe they should. Their hormone therapy will undercut any advantage they might have (aside from bone structure), especially if they due to the sexual reassignment surgery (they won't have testes).

[Anonymous]

I think that women pushed harder to get trans women accepted as women and don't want anybody offending or excluding them. So in keeping with that mindset, I don't see why women should have the right to exclude them from women's sports.

Let them compete. Soon enough, they'll even be accepted by a lot of men for dating and marriage. From an objective viewpoint, it would have several advantages. I guess women fought for trans acceptance without considering the future consequences. Oh well

[bolverk]

If the transgendered person transitioned as an adult I'd say no, but if the transgendered person had been on puberty blockers for transgender children when they hit a stage of development known as Tanner stage 2 (roughly 10-12 yoa) and then went through transition they should be roughly equivalent to a genetic female of the same age, although it is not an exact outcome.

[Holistic]

I don't even think a female to male athlete should be allowed in men's tournaments. What are you pumping into your body? Hormones. Just like steroids. If you're altering your body chemistry, you should not be allowed to compete in regular leagues.

[BlackRoseFairy]

No, men have a different body constitution then women and thus an advantage when it comes to sports. They are not divided to women and men competitions because of genitals.

[Electric_Dreams]

No way. It's unfair. They are not the same gender as the female competitors. They have the advantages that male athletes have over women athletes, because they are biologically male.

If they want to make a third gender category that'd be a fine idea I think. That would be fair.

[Britantic]

No thats crazy because an averagely fit male is more or less superior to even elite female athletes.
It doesn't matter how much surgery or hormones a transgender get, he will never be a woman.

[TadCurious]

There is no such thing in reality of a male becoming a female. So these so-called "transwomen" are just dudes competing unfairly against women and making a mockery of any sports event they are in.

[CoffeeWC]

No, it would be unfair competition for the biological females because the trans would have a biological advantage. Instead, there should be an athletic competition strictly for trans people. A trans female is not a female. Athletics shouldn't be about political agendas.

[BeMuse]

I don’t think so, but I don’t really take women’s sports too serious so they can mess up their own game how ever they want.