You think it’s as entertaining as the NBA? I think watching the NBA is boring college players are wayyy more entertaining but the athleticism in the NBA is absolutely unreal so that’s what I watch for but the WNBA just doesn’t have that absurd factor that would drive me to actively want to watch it
@Birdlegs I used to not think the WNBA was much.It was like what Howard Stern said shortly after the WNBA was inaugurated. He was open-minded (being so tall himself and liking hoops) and, after watching one of the first games said "I guess vagina just doesn't belong in the paint."However, about 3 years ago, I got hooked on the playoffs. These women were busting their ass with all sorts of drama and clock management issues that it was easy to be exciting for it. I was irked that some of the playoff games went solely to cable. Anyway, in non-COVID years, I do look forward to both WNBA and NWHL seasons.
I can understand women’s hockey as it will still be the same game as men’s hockey just like track or tennis. But basketball is probably the only sport that I can say loses entertainment between the sexes solely due to the height of the rim for the women I think they should lower it a little bit so the women can do the same things as the men then I believe it will take off more. It already has the fact that women are playing going for them so people are already going to watch for that and if they wind up dunking over each other then the ratings are going to go crazy. AND they’ll be able to get paid more in that case but the players don’t like that solution because of their pride
@Birdlegs The rim is standard at 10 feet for all sexes everywhere on Earth. It's been 10 feet since 1891 when the average male player was about 5 foot 6 inches.In the NBA, players got bigger and the style of play changed because of the ABA. That's what makes it more intense around the post now. The WNBA will do the same thing over time with women players getting taller. Right now, the average WNBA player is slightly over 6 feet tall - considerable more than the 5-foot-6 man when hoops was invented.
That’s true but the game was also SOOO much worse back then. Those black and white highlight reels from back before the 3 point line are painful to watch. And back to the athleticism of the average height is slightly above 6 feet how come no one is dunking? I think there’s been a few dunks in the WNBA but they were rim grazers that you’ll see at a boys middle school game and they are professional athletes. Track makes accommodations for women to keep the intensity up. In the Olympics the women’s hurdles are lower, the shot put is lighter, the discus is lighter. I’m sure they originally weren’t different but now it is. Who would want to see women race at the hurdle height of the men? It would be so much slower and they would hit the hurdles way more. Or who would want to watch the women throw the same weight shot put as the men it won’t go nearly as far. People want to see the fastest, the farthest, and most exciting things thats why people watch professional sports
@Birdlegs Yes, the NBA was lame until the ABA changed the game. The ABA did not adopt 3 things from the NBA:1) The ABA had a 30-second clock.2) In the ABA, at times, you could have a 3-to-make-2. I believe it was invoked if a player got 6 fouls (so fouling out was different and this was necessitated by the economics) or a team had more than 5 team fouls in a half.3) The red, white, and blue ball. Had the ABA been able to copyright that color scheme, we'd be watching the ABA and not the NBA because, in the 1970s, we ALL had "ABA balls" on the playgrounds. After all, that was the decade of the Bicentennial. The ABA would have made money hand-over-fist because of those balls.
You should buy "Loose Balls: The Short, WIld Life of the American Basketball Association" by Terry Pluto.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Balls
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Obvi no ones saying that. I’m asking why some games aren’t fun to watch? It seems gender is the issue.
You just don't uinderstand sports one bit. That is why you prefer to blame it on gender.You see it "obvious" for the Olympics but not for the other competitions, it's all there, the skill is different, the performance is different, and so are the achievements, there's also decades of tradition, there's history, and the need to belong, there's investments, there's projection, there's interest or the lack of it, and so much more, many other things that come first... and all before gender.
I’m not hearing any... just that you like NCAA and NBA. But not WNBA.
you don't even bother to understand why the WNBA is the WNBA, before you make this post... and you expect true fans of the game to take it more seriously... even true fans of the game are having a hard time watching the NBA, so that's all you need to know, you don't care one bit and others don't have to either.
Still not hearing issues
The only basketball I've watched in the last years is the UCONN women's team, and that was because of Breanna Stewart.So, you go ahead and think whatever you want, about that.
That is a good analogy. Still doesn’t explain the disparity. Indie movies are better.
That’s subjective to say indie movies are better. Blockbusters are hyped more, higher paid participants, and more eyeballs.
But why are female athletes the “indie” films of pro sports?
They aren’t as good of a product overall.
But awards prefer indie movies...
And dollars prefer blockbusters. I’d rather be the highest paid developer in the state than receive an award.
Again... I don’t watch sports but a game is a game isn’t it? What makes a game fun for you? I’m really wondering.
Watching the best drivers/fighters/athletes fighting for the most prestigious titles and championships is what interests me. Sure, 2 random dudes on my local court may lead to a more interesting, closer match, however watching the best NBA teams will provide big names, players with better technique fighting for stakes way higher than in the first game.
So you only watch the best teams in the leagues? Or do you watch shitty teams too?
Unless it's an important match because it has ramifications for other teams in the league, no I generally don't watch those matches.
What makes games good though? WNBA seem to have competent athletes.
The value fans place on it. NBA has been around longer than the WNBA. Fans were treated to that and then look at the WNBA and it's such a downgrade in every single way.
how is it a downgrade?
I just told youThe players in the NBA are better and more entertaining to watch.
And what if women forced the NBA to wear just jockey straps?
But they don’t need to, they have a huge audience... for now. Once the boomers and some other start dying off I don’t know if the Millennials and Gen Z will be big fans. So perhaps then.
But what makes a game fun? Seems like it’s gender based for you.
LMFAO! It seems like it's gender based for me? REALLY? Based on what? I'd recommend spending less time with the "absolutely EVERY phenomenon in the world is about gender and race" crowd. *smh*
Fuck you’re dense. You like NCAA and NBA but hate WNBA. I’m asking for actual reasons why.
The level of skill is MUCH higher in the NBA than in the others. If my only options were to watch a WNBA game and a group of 5th graders playing basketball then I'd probably opt for the WNBA for the same reason. But fortunately that isn't the choice.
But you watch shittier teams in the NBA and NCAA. So obviously thats not a requirement for you.
The shittiest team in the NBA would absolutely destroy the champion of the WNBA. Every single time. Even if they all had Covid.
Not too sure about that.
Proving once again that you weren't lying when you said that you're not a sports guy. . .
So the best female team couldn’t beat the worst male team?
WNBA versus NBA? No--not even close. Any sane human being who has any idea how basketball works would tell you as much.
So that’s the sexism I was referring to.
So it's sexist now to point out facts? That's interesting!
There’s no data to support your man over female stance. It’s not fact because we don’t know
But are the games really more boring because of that?
But the WNBA isn’t ranting feminist stuff. Are you saying games aren’t fun because of online feminists?
No, I am saying that ranting female athletes are not fun.
but ranting male athletes are?
Men don't rant about money.