Wow man thanks for that. Have you visited Italy yourself?
Yes, Rome and Naples. I found the locals to be very rude and unwelcoming. And I have no idea what Historical reason they could have to hate Americans, or if they just despise our culture, or if they just hate any and all foreigners.
So basically you felt hostile the whole time?
No, I felt they were hostile towards me, including by spitting on the ground in front of where I was walking, cursing me, and making rude hand gestures. I also noticed that many places blatantly attempted to price gouge for food, and when I pointed out that the menu price was much lower, they would smirk or shrug and walk away. People were as rude as they dared to be, the older folks were more daring in that respect. I got tired of being there after the first day, spent ten days there in total, and was grateful to be leaving. I thought if they hated outsiders that much, fine, but they should have stopped me at the border if that was the case, instead of allowing me to come in and spend money just to be disrespected. I feel that's chickenshit. Their economy depends on tourism, but they seem extremely ungrateful for all of that.
Wow that's really sad. I certainly am going to reconsider going there. Do you think it would depend on what city you go to? Was the males just mean to you or the females as well?
This was in 2004, so maybe it's different now, and maybe it depends on the city, I couldn't tell you. As for the gender, I would say everyone would pointedly ignore you and look annoyed and disgusted by your presence, it was mostly males but also older females who would go out of their way to make you feel unwelcome. The older people were much more brazen about it, regardless of gender.Like I said, if you hate foreigners, fine, but don't let them in in the first place. I thought they were dickheads, to be honest.
I believe you. I am sorry about your experience. I heard France was bad just like you said. My brother went to France and said how rude they were.
@bananaman177 Germans, Swiss, Swedes, and Dutch, people love Americans more than Eastern Europe Poland, Ukraine, and the Czech Republic, felt the most unwelcoming and cold towards Americans based on my long travels to Europe.
I know I have wanted to go for a very long time <3.
I mean yeah probably but I've already gotten COVID and if most people including me get their vaccine I'd assume I would be mostly safe. I certainly am not waiting another damn year lol. Life is too short so really fuck it lol.
Having had covid does not give you bonafide immunity. People have had it more than once. Also, there is no telling about lung and organ damage. You don't want to get it again. There is no telling how many people will get the vaccine. Herd immunity requires 80 percent of people having immunization. So far, only 60 percent of people are even SAYING they want to GET the vaccine. You are YOUNG. You have many years to travel. You life is NOT short at this time. It stretches in front of you. Go there in the FALL after you know what the infection rates are and the vaccine rates are.Isn't your good health worth it?
Yes you are right. As far as my health its already pretty much fucked up anyways. I have like 4 different auto-immune diseases. Also I know it doesn't make me immune to it and that I can get it again. Yeah I guess waiting by fall wouldn't hurt however if it doesn't progress by then we could be having this discussion for who knows how many more years. It's like that old adage" later never comes."
Thankfully when I got it I had very mild symptoms and didn't have any breathing problems. Just loss of taste, feverish and burned nose for a few days. That's it.
I doubt there will be NO progress. But I'm thinking getting this thing under control is going to take time. It's unfortunate. We older people are in worse shape than you kids. We could be facing death. That's a dark piece of shit. But if your health isn't good, and you think you need to plan to go somewhere for your MENTAL health. too, I see your point. Plan carefully, then, and choose the safest place to go: where covid rates are the low and hospital access is the good. Also consider how long you're going to be on a plane with others who MIGHT BE SICK. According to where you live, Australia is a 20 hour flight. Avoid that. Pick somewhere that takes a few hours on a plane. Or DRIVE there. I'm in US. There are loads of places: cabins in state and national parks that are accessible and you're in beautiful, outdoor surroundings. Think of safe AND enjoyable. You can do it! Good luck.
Mental health? Auto-immune diseases have to do with your white blood cells usually acting in a certain way attacking certain things in your body. It has nothing to do with mental health. Maybe vicariously because if you have say Lupus that could give you lots of stress and lead to say depression. I live in America but put Iraq because that's where I was born. GAG bio says country and that's it. Not where are you from or currently living like how say facebook does. Yeah America has lots of nice places, but I am kind of of sick of it. I just wanna travel to a different country.
However I appreciate the gratitude thank you.
I know precisely what auto immune diseaes are. My friend had lupus. I'm saying you need to go on a vacation for your mental health because your body has caused you so many issues. You NEED the vacation.. That's what i mean.
Oh okay yeah that makes sense. Also sorry to hear about your friend.
Well I would hope by June or July it all blows over.
That would be great, but I'm not so sure about that. It's getting worse.
Yeah but if enough people take the vaccines it should be okay.
It's not that simple, there are new strains. Lots of people don't want to take the vaccines and it's also a long process.
Yeah that's the problem and lots of people don't even wear the masks. Some don't even think the virus exists they just say fake news and its a flu. I have a older stupid neighbor like that. We learned we can't depend on people especially stupid American voters lol. So yes a vaccine is our best hope.
Yes, that's exactly my point. I know people who think like that. In fact, I live with someone who believes in that nonsense. That's why I think it won't end anytime soon. Also, we need to have at least 70% of the world's population vaccinated. If it that ever happens it will take ages to get there. But I agree, the vaccine is a big hope.
Yep plus I've already gotten the virus before which I know I can still get it again. That's also my point of view. Like we don't know how many more years this will last and I am not going to spend my golden years just waiting. I am still going to enjoy myself. I am not an idiot like other people when the vaccine comes out I will take it and still even where the masks.
I'm sorry to hear that you got sick. That's true, we don't know how long immunity lasts and some people got it again. I get your idea, but I still think it's dangerous to travel under these circumstances. That's smart of you and it's also what I'm going to do.
Yeah I will travel with caution. Italy had pretty big cases so maybe I will hold that off for another year.
And thank you for your gratitude.
Yes, you should be cautious. Yes, going to Italy wouldn't be a good idea. Australia sounds like a better option. You're welcome.
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Give me suggestions?
Soo much homework 📚 man 😅.
Well you shouldn't be on GAG then. Get back to studying lol.
I’ll do what I want 😎
Wow you are quite evil. Derka derka derka sherka sherka.
I’m not evil 🥺
So did you get an A on your homework or is it not due yet?
Really? hahah, I thought the women there are generally known to be nice? One of my IT jobs I had I used to work at we had Australian customers calling at nights and they all seemed really nice to me. However I am guessing that might be different than in real life since they were such a small population and category.
@blondfrog Yeah hahaha but they are cool
I have a lot of money saves. So even if its costs up to $3,000 I'd be okay with that.
It’s a lot more than that between airfare and staying there for maybe 2 weeks
So Italy is the cheapest?
At least $5000 minimum and right now it’s summer there so leave soon
I just checked and their weather is like in the 50s.
Probably Italy is yeah but wait till summer so the virus is done with
Yep that's what I am planning.
Or- SPAIN! The southern coast (Costa Del Sol) is one big party in the summer. Stay in Malaga or Torremolinos.
The one other guy told me , Naples, Italy had very rude people in there though. Are they rude to foreginers?
Yeah actually, Naples is not safe and I should not have said that. I'm sorry I didn't actually mean to but apparently I did. Stay away from Naples on the other hand the Amalfi Coast and Capri are both great places that I recommend to you. Also the south coast of Spain the costa Del Sol is one of the best places in the world during the summer time
Will keep that in mind when I travel to Italy thanks.
Glad to help. Enjoy!
Yeah I hadn't thought of that.
Mostly likely not just playing hypotheticals right now.
Haven't decided yet since I am cut in between all 3 I will let you guys decide for me. However tis Australia sure me and you could go. Would around June or July be good?
That's why I am currently learning Japanese.
During June or July? Is Italy bad?