Heaven forbid this would be announced all over tv.
So to get ahead it's OK to abuse affirmative action and steal a place away from someone more deserving possibly an under represented minority?
I don't believe in affirmative action anyway. I'd prefer that it be be abused into non existence.
besides when have republicans, since the 1930s at least, ever cared about minorities? this is just some out of context anecdote being used to berate a woman they hated already for being a liberal. republicans in general couldn't care less about native americans or any minorites for that matter lol. nobody is buying that
Your thinking of the democrats back in the day when they used to all be paid up members of the kkk
Exactly, and then in the 1960s those racists began leaving the democratic party when LBJ passed civil rights legislation for blacks. They defected to the republican party, where they remain. That's why the south eventually flipped from solid blue to solid red. Nobody is being fooled.
In other words, the parties played a game of pass the racists lol. AKA the southern strategy that nixon exploited. Elite northern Republicans were some clever cynics to pander to all those poor rednecks and crackers out there in rural america. Hats off to them.
Not at high up members of the Democrat party like Robert Byrd (Hillary's mentor and grand cyclops of the kkk 1946-2010) remained. When southerners turned their back on the kkk and kkk membership dropped the democrats abandoned them, naturally the kkk are still upset that good ol boys like Robert Byrd and Bill Clinton abandoned them to capture the Black vote (bill clinton flew the confederate flag). The Democrats have always used racial politics and stirred up division to get elected.
Robert Byrd changed his views over time. He was old as dirt and not representative of modern democratic party in the slightest. West Virginia is so backwards, primitive, and isolated culturally that it's taken a lot longer to flip to completely republican. It proves my point all over again.
You're digging up pre 1960s stuff that bears no relation to the modern parties.
Pre 1960's lol. You think one day he was lynching black folks at Klan meetings and then "changed his mind" lol. All that changed was his politics. It's no coincidence that that there has been this much racial tension since the end of the 60's after 8 years of Obama. Bill Clinton had the confederate flag on his election campaign posters and flyers. The Democrats don't care about American people they only care about political power and money and will do and say anything to get it case in point Elizabeth Warren claiming to be Native American to enrich herself.
Very well said
no I don't think it happened to him "one day" lol. And invoking lynching as a crime Robert byrd was personally involved in is a vast exaggeration. He changed over the course of a 90+ year lifespan that saw tremendous social changes. Robert Byrd's ideological history evolved over decades, and it's reflected in his voting record and in the forgiveness he received from black leaders. You're clinging to a convenient one man anecdote with this robert byrd story. There were a thousand robert byrds (dixiecrats) throughout the country in those days, and most of them eventually changed to the republican party. Robert byrd was an EXCEPTION not the rule. That's the fundamental point. Trying to portray the modern democratic party as more racist than republicans is preposterous. The fact that both parties have historically pandered to racists doesn't change the reality that today there is vastly more racism in the republican party. Over time it may flip again, but that's how it stands currently.
Yep those hoods make it difficult to say who is a member, maybe even Bill and Hillary.
As for elizabeth warren, I think the fact that she's gone on the be so successful is proof that deserved to attend the school anyway. Not to mention none of these allegations means anything without a DNA test. I don't know what her racial makeup is and neither do you. Let's stop pretending we do. It's never been scientifically investigated.
Sorry it wasn't a school it was a job.
yeah, I bet you're really worried about black people's well being. You probably cry about it every night. Oh please.
If you support her racial appropriation of a race not her own to get a job then you are a racist.
You don't know if she is has native American ancestry and neither do I. Till more evidence is forthcoming the jury is out.
She's not there is no evidence.
We don't know her ancestry till we see a DNA test. You don't know it. I don't know it. It's that simple.
You're spouting rumors as if they were proved. You assume the worst of her because you wouldn't like her anyway, because of her politics.
She already answered here ancestory has no native American, originally she claimed 1/37 cherokee but has admitted that it was lies. Why do you think people call her Pocahontas. It's a classic case of a white liberal lying about their race so they don't have to deal with the burden of "white guilt".
She never said it was lies. She said that her family always believed they had cherokee ancestry. Why do you think people call trump an orange clown that likes to watch russian prostitutes pee? Obviously both sides are going to latch on to rumors and treat them as facts, which is bad journalism. Till we have hard evidence stories like these are idiotic partisan tools used to demonize people till they're turned into cartoonish villains.
She called herself Native American to get a $350,000 job when she wasn't and in my book that's racist.
You don't know if she is a native American or not and neither do I. You're pretending to have certainty where there is no certainty. And I'm sure you're really broken-hearted about racism... come on.
And we don't know whether she would have gotten the job regardless. You assume she wouldn't have gotten it were it not for native American ancestry. You have no way of knowing that.
Did it ever occur many people DO NOT KNOW their own ancestry with absolute certainty? They have only family stories and traditions to rely on and they simply report what they've been told to the best of their knowledge. There's nothing sinister about that--it's perfectly natural and very common.
Mmmhhhhmmm if you are OK with what she did your OK with racism
But we don't know what she did. 1. We don't know if she was wrong about her ancestry. 2. If she was inaccurate, we don't know if she was knowingly inaccurate. The facts have not been made available. A conclusion is impossible at this stage.
Of course we know. We know by her politics
you can't know someone's racial ancestry through their political affiliation. that's absurd.
There's no evidence she has native American ancestory
If this was a republican doing what warren is doing... liberals would lose their mind. But since she is one of them... they give her a pass. How pathetic is that
And there isn't evidence she doesn't have native American ancestry.
@Rissyanne yeah and if she was a republican, republicans would give her a pass. gee, what a surprise.
No we couldnt. Because liberals would loot and burn down the cities. The riot and destroy everytime they dont get their way. And you know that is the truth.
Why are you bringing race into this? Are you a racists? you sound like one. I never said at thing about race. And by the way. You dont know me. You can call me names all you want. That is what liberals do best. I am muting this question... you ignorance is a boring.
Why should republicans care about america's cities? By and large, they don't live in them! But of course poor whites love sucking tax dollars out of the cities (and therefore liberals) to pay for their entitlements, all the while berating the very federal government and liberal city-dwellers that enable their backward lives to continue.
@Rissyanne as I always say white liberals are closet racists
I guess that makes you an out-in-the-open racist, by inference.
@Rissyanne I think I understood exactly what you were saying and suggesting by bringing up rioters. Obviously you don't like being called out on your racial innuendos about "looters". If you can't handle it, my apologies.
@Rissyanne in other words, you're an old white lady terrified of scary black men having scary black riots? You probably don't live within 15 miles of a black person--I think your safe. And by the way, white liberals typically don't go looting and rioting since they are on average significantly wealthier than republican whites. Rednecks have would riots too, it's just that they're out in the middle of nowhere where only raccoons and skunks can see them. It's far right folks who start these bizarre militia groups with their gun crazy culture of inbred, swamp dwelling idiocy. But again, how could republicans have riots in the cities when they live out in the middle of nowheresville USA?
The fact that you are saying that all the rioters are black is racist
Pretending to care about racism to score political points is racist, which is exactly what you're doing.
No I didn't vote for Hillary, that was basically the Democrat election platform.
You call democrats racists because you know that non-racists are bothered by being calling racist. A true racist wouldn't care, which is why I'm not bothering to call you racist.
The democrats are the party of slavery, Jim crow, segregation, the kkk, the Vietnam draft, the Clinton crime bill and most recently stiring up the highest racial tension in US history during the Obama administration. Then there's big cities like Chicago, detriot etc run by the democrats for decades yet have some of the highest black on black murder and unemployment rates in the country. Yeah the democrats are still racists.
black people supported the clinton crime bill. And the whole war on drugs that decimated the inner cities was a bipartisan effort. All the other things you mentioned: kkk, slavery, jim crow, have to do with rural white america (modern republican country), not the modern democratic party. The parties completely switched on race, and we both know that. You're using the same tired talking points that work on historically illiterate rednecks that know nothing about how the parties slowly realigned after LBJ and Nixon's southern strategy. Case in point: George wallace was a democrat. His son turned republican. This happened everywhere in rural america in the decades following the 60s.
The Republicans never switched. The Clinton crime bill put twice as many black men in jail mostly for very little. The whole switch thing is to help white liberals accept the long racist history of the democrat party, now they try to keep black voters in their place with welfare scraps.
Generally speaking, racists that would have been democrats if they were born before the 60s are now republicans. Meanwhile intellectuals, minorities, northerners, urban whites, and the well educated who were largely republicans before the 60s, are now democrats. The republicans gave up their brains, the democrats gave up their racists. I say the democrats got the better deal.
Yeah I'm sure all the klan members voted for hillary. Very amusing lol. But I think they voted your boy trump. SAD!
The people who go to college to end up working in Starbucks do not represent brains. Of course a lot of rich liberal elites send their kids to college and it's in the intrests of the liberal elites to keep the masses of all races working for next to nothing so they can live high on the hog exploiting ilegal immigrants so they can live like it's the guilded age with maids, gardeners and nannies that way they can pursue their intrests and pleasure.
Of course the Klan are still upset with the democrats and for Bill and Hillary abandoning them. The kkk are tiny as are all white supremacist groups, their leaders are more about making money.
Sounds like the life of Donald Trump! Only he didn't do too well at school lol. He was precisely one of the silver spoon babies that you resent. Except rural whites don't resent it, because he panders to hatred of elites and minorities, which is all they can hold on to for self esteem. If minorities weren't beneath them, nobody would be.
You're talking both ways. Democrats abandoned racism, or they didn't. If they didn't, why does the klan vote for the other party? Obviously the 2 parties went in different directions and changed constituencies.And this isn't only about card carrying klan members and neo nazis, it's also a matter of ordinary people who tolerate racism, and that group votes republican.
I resent a millionaire like Elizabeth Warren talking about welfare when ordinary Americans have no jobs or opportunities. We've had 8 years of welfare, kids are coming out of college to work in Starbucks still living as a burden on their parents in their 30's. We were promised change and got nothing. Trump is taking care of American citizens first, which is as it should be, countries should look after their citizens and provide them the opportunity to succeed but liberal elites don't care about that as long as their wealth isn't touched.
But what does any of that have to do with conservative ideology? Resentment of the rich? That's not conservative, that's rebellious. You sound like a leftist.
Ordinary Americans out in rural america have made decades of horrible decisions with their lives, and now they're paying the price. Undervaluing education, isolating themselves, losing faith, their families failing, having too many children, getting into drugs. Where is the moral responsibility?
It's not resentment of the rich it's resentment of the elites filling their pockets and keeping ordinary people down. Of course they throw us welfare, entertainment, celebrities and war to pacify the plebs but Americans have rejected being kept in their place. This is 1st generation to do worse than their fathers.
Instead they blame others and start whining about these vague "elites". They should be growing a pair, and pull themselves up by their bootstraps with common sense, instead of waiting for the government to solve their problems. Other people aren't having problems. Maybe they should study those people.
Rural America beats the big inner cities. There's a lot of very successful rural Americans who often move to the big cities for work. You underestimate rural America "Undervaluing education, isolating themselves, losing faith, their families failing, having too many children, getting into drugs. Where is the moral responsibility?" That describes virtually every part of America including the suburbs. There are few opportunities in America even for the children of the Middle classes maybe Trump can turn that around but then he was the only candidate that campaigned on bringing back jobs all Hillary campaigned on was glass ceilings and Russia.
Other people are how many middle class college kids work in the service industry and live with their parents, a lot.Thank God for the army or I'd never have been able to get out of that trailer park
Some regions are doing better than ever and some are doing worse than ever. There is no one economic picture of America. Overall, america has never been richer. Sure some people don't feel it, but some do. One person's community is not another's community.A lot of the disparity is due to technological change, not "elites" making evil decisions. Elites can't un-invent technological improvements that make a lot of lower middle class jobs obsolete. Service jobs are naturally going to be a fall back for those people. Yes free trade lost jobs, but it also lowered prices at walmart. Can't have it all.
Yes but shouldn't conservatives blame themselves for their moral failings instead of others, or adverse circumstances? I thought that was part of traditional values.
American elites are richer than ever. The gap between rich and poor grows and the national debt triples which the working and middle classes will have to pay for.
With all this concern for the proletariat you sound like Karl Marx. Are you sure you're a conservative?
Elites are richer than ever, but the poor are certainly not poorer than ever and you seem to be implying that.
Definitely are. I must be the only under 40 year old in my neighborhood that own his own house let alone has a mortgage or even under 30 that doesn't live with his parents.
Your neighborhood is not the whole of america. The bigger picture is much more nuanced. Some areas are doing better than ever. My area is doing well, but I don't then say that the whole country is perfect. Look at how everyone is doing and not only the people you know.
The election showed how people are doing.
Or it showed their capacity to be manipulated.
Nah the real tell tale sign was the non voters.
Well non voters aren't good either. The largely ignorant American people got the ignorant leader they deserve.
And if they prosper under Trump they will get him again
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