In Tennessee professors can carry if the college allows them to. My community college allows professors to carry.
Never happen here. We can't even say "Christmas party". 😂😂😣🔫
Lmao, it sounds like UT has turned into a liberal university.
Getting there. I'm still gonna miss it, but I won't miss that shit.
I can't stand stuff like what liberal colleges are doing. Good thing I decided to go to ETSU instead.
That's cool man. That's a good school. What are you planning to study?
Next year they are starting an engineering program with Tennessee tech. So I will be enrolling in it. And thankfully because of the hope scholarship and the ETSU scholarships, I will graduate debt free.
That's awesome. I was in a bridge program with pellissippi state my freshman year. I got the HOPE too, but I missed out on the 2 free years of CCA.So I'm gonna be far from debt free.Good for you bro. Good luck 👍
Tennessee sounds like a cool place, they just passed a bill saying drivers can run over protesters who block roads XD If you ever decide to run over a protester, don't forget to film it and send me the link :)xD
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You are comparing the most powerful weapon ever created to a hand gun, to make a point. Yea... Next time use something that isn't completely stupid.
stupid people call others stupid to hide their stupidity. Make a valid point or shut up!
I never called you stupid, I called your argument stupid. Which it is, you are comparing a weapon that can wipe out huge areas to a handgun.
is southside of chicago a gun free zone? cause the murder rate there is higher than anywhere. in fact the places with the highest number of gun deaths are places that also have the highest concentration of guns.
@madhatters4 What is your point? I never said gun free zones is where ONLY killers go!
well the logic would suggest that since most killers are in places of higher gun density areas that perhaps gun free zones are safer places
@madhatters4 There is no logic in that... if there is a killer who wants to take out as many people as possible he is going to go to a gun free zone like malls and colleges where there is nobody that can shoot back... most security guards don't have guns at these places!
and yet the fewest gun deaths occur in these places. which suggest that killers are NOT by in large seeking out innocent people. so arming more people would suggest that it will result in more deaths since the places with the most gun deaths are places with the greatest number of armed people
@madhatters4 again what is your point here... I only have 2 roaches a year in my condo but i still spray every six months. So guess what I will strap up just in case those 2 idiots that happen to want to kill people don't kill me! You can be the one that runs behind me... don't worry I will save you and your right to free speech! Don't worry!
and i can see a reasonable conversation is going off the rails as you resort personal jabs and non-linear irrational conclusions... oh well. take it easy
@madhatters4 You haven't even stated where you stand on this issue? Is there a point? Do you not want CCW? If so why.. make your case... at the very least!
i did state where i stand in my opinion but that's not really the point. the point was just challenging your argument about killers rushing to gun free zones. i was challenging that by showing that the VAST majority of murders are committed in places with the highest number of gun carriers. so if the argument is safety then perhaps a gun free zone is safer since there are far fewer deathsbut honestly it doesn't matter. rather than dealing with the details you launched into irrational stuff about protecting me and my rights (i don't need your protection and it's not at all pertinent to the conversation)... so i won't waste your time or mine. you've got your opinion and i've got mine and we'll respectfully go different ways
@madhatters4 The argument isn't safety it's personal safety and the right for one to protect themselves in places "in your argument" are safer only because of statistics. The families of those few aka statistics... would disagree. I could care less about statistics! Statistics should never be a reason for someone to say oh okay I guess I don't need to protect myself since there is only a 1 in whatever chance of this happening.
so since statistics don't matter you don't see a point in a person using contraception since it's 99% likely to avoid pregnancy or STDs?since statistics don't matter people should drive and text regardless of the statistic that says you are exponentially more likely to get into an accident?
personal freedom is the best and only logical argument for gun ownership. but you can't deny the statistics and the truth behind them. I wouldn't use the argument that people who had family or friends die as innocent victims are going to suddenly argue for guns in schools. by in large those people who had children or family members killed in schools or in work places are also often the same people who want stronger not looser gun control.
@madhatters4 Comparing common sense statistics is to say that we on this side of the argument are stupid because you are basically saying your point of view has the same overwhelming stats and they don't. Mr. Mom and Dad who lost their child.. you want better gun laws so do i but if you could of had that teacher strapped with a ccw who could of ended it before they died wouldn't you want that? If they say NO then there is no more conversation because that makes no sense to me but it's their right and their opinion. You don't want to strap students okay.. at least strap some faculty to save lives ! This is a huge debate and we aren't going to really get anywhere on GAG so appreciate you graciously coming back and giving your feedback.. we will have to agree to disagree at this point! Take care!
all statistics are common sense, as math is common sense and based on facts rather than emotions or feeling. it seems to me you simply don't like statistics that don't support what you are bias towards.
@madhatters4 actually if you look at actual statistics, you will find there is no correlation between guns and crimes on either side. Also you do realize most mass shooting occur in gun free zones? You know why? Because they know the victims won't shoot back.
@madhatters4 you also fail to realize statistics are normally displaced in a way to mislead people.
I do realize massacres may occur in "gun free zones" but massacres still account for only a tiny tiny fraction of the total gun deaths. the logic isn't hard to understandmost gun deaths occur in areas with the highest concentration of gun ownership. a far lower amount of gun deaths occur in gun free zones. so the idea that we NEED guns in those places is illogical
@madhatters4 actually most murders happen in big cities. Also a lot of guns that were used were purchased illegally.
@madhatters4 and yes, that accounts for population difference.
i didn't say any of that is untrue. i said the most gun deaths occur where the highest concentration of gun ownership is present... whether that is in cities or guns owned illegally is irrelevant to the fact that most gun deaths occur in places with the highest concentration of gun ownership
@madhatters4 so you are saying just because people get and use guns illegally means more law abiding gun owners shouldn't have guns? You are comparing illegally purchased guns to legally purchased guns.
Also there is studies that say that CCW permit holders are less likely to be convicted of crimes.
"so you are saying just because people get and use guns illegally means more law abiding gun owners shouldn't have guns? "Did i say that? please show me where i said thati'm not comparing how the guns are acquired. i'm not going to keep saying the same thing only for you to expand it into something that isn't being said to try and support your position.
@madhatters4 you are saying law abiding citizens can't carry because people the crime rate verse gun concentration. Which then I pointed out that a lot of those guns weren't purchased legally.And guess what just like I said, CCW permit holders are less less likely to be convicted of a crime.
i'm not saying law abiding citizens can't do anything. you are putting a many many words in my mouth. this OP said gun free zones are where killers go LOLI said that most killlers do not go to gun free zones... end of conversation. nothing more to debate.
Up until about 30 years ago having an archery club and shooting club was commonplace in American highschools.
So, just because someone that age is more likely to get drunk, I shouldn't be able to carry a gun?
in a nutshell yes. college is a time where people are exposed to their first personal freedom and thus mistakes happen all too frequently. it is usually the time when people for experiment with drugs (alcohol and other). I just don't think schools should say it's ok for students to carry guns at a time when people overindulge at a higher rate than other times in their life... if the state allows it off campus then those students should be allowed to do so off campus. but a school bears responsibility to provide a measure of safety and allowing blacked out students to carry fatal weapons is an absurdly bad idea
Who said people in college are young? A lot of people go back to get their master's degrees.
but the majority of students on a college campus are young adults... you know this.
So ban everyone even the teachers?
i'd say that seems like a fair enough rule.
hmmm i've never thought about it to be honest
Concealed carry of a firearm.
Oh... yeah I'm not getting involved, see ya