Also, to make them ridiculously big and hard to conceal. The ideal would of course be to replace ammunition with tranquilisers. And these changes to the actual weapons are not against the Ammendment - the government could impose legislation against firearms manufacturers. It would also need to reequip its police force accordingly. But have they tried doing that? Have they fuck.
Are you sure the gun laws are the cause for the decrease in the murder rate? Our murder rate dropped by the same amount as Australia's murder rate, during the same time. And no new gun laws have really been made here.
@Thisperson98 Australia hasn't had any mass shootings since. Also, provide a chart.
@Thisperson98 That website isn't a chart.
So you need the information in a chart?
@Thisperson98 I'm a visual learner. I need to see things to understand.
Don't know about you but police studies have shown that an attacker with a knife is actually more dangerous than one with a gun. The knife can kill a person faster than a gun could at 7ft.
Look at the US and other countries before their gun laws. You will notice that the US always had higher murder rates. So it can't be the guns, especially since in the UK their murder rate didn't decrease when they banned most guns.
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Would you want to live in an area where people feel the need to open carry? (The bad side of town immediately comes to mind.) How many banks have you seen with armed guards? (Because it most definitely depends on the location, and any bank robber with at least half a brain would happily drive a few hundred miles to hit the bank without guards.) How many mass shooters would give a shit if they got shot at? (Because all they care about is seeing how many they can get.)Your point is moot. Try another.
I open carry purely because it's more comfortable. Inside the waistband gets tiresome after so long. I've seen done banks have guards but I'll still carry. If a shooter goes somewhere else away from me, then I have to hope someone there carries. Look up every high profile mass shooting and count how many firefights they engaged with police. If I can stop a gunmen with my gun, I will do so; but I am not a sheepdog. Your safety is your responsibility. Unless the police have figured out teleportation, you'll be dead, or close to it, by the time they show up.
So just because you want to play the hero instead of the damsel in distress, it's 100% okay to make people uncomfortable?I've seen rednecks wander through Walmart with m16s slung over their shoulder before. I just left the buggy and walked right out. If there's a chance that I'm gonna be part of the crowd they unload into, I'm out of there.Gone.
Play hero? No. Your safety is on you. My first priority is myself and my family to get out of that mess. Most time, people either don't notice or don't care. If anything it's a conversation piece. No we don't have a civilian m16 and it's not legal to open carry long guns. Those guys are like the rice burner Honda civic guys in the car community. Every community has their village idiot that gives the whole community a bad name.
Actually there is a lot of gun laws passed that restricted the second amendment.
Knives are still a thing. So are hammers, axes, baseball bats, screwdrivers, pipe wrenches, swords, machetes, metal poles and even spoons. Everything is a tool before a weapon. It is the user that is the weapon. I can kill you just as easily with a plastic bag and piano wire than with with a gun. Food for thought, Britain doesn't have guns but the crime is just as high.
Hey, you wanted my opinion
"Britain doesn't have guns, but the crime is just as high" Are you mental fam? The US and the UK don't compare. Oakland and Richmond alone are rougher jungles than south London. Don't get me started on Detroit, Chicago, Miami, etc.The "knives, bats..." point is pitiful. Excluding vehicles, guns are really the only other accessible tools for mass murder. Weapons for slashing or blunt force don't come close to effectiveness of guns. Regarding your original question, it's too late for gun control in my opinion. The US gun to people ratio is ridiculously high, and legislation will do jack shit. Most gang related deaths, for example, are carried out with illegal guns. Criminals don't care what legislation gets passed, and the blackmarket has too much inventory. Short answer: no
No, in the UK murder rates stayed the same after they banned all the guns.
In Australia, it worked: http://andrewleigh.org/pdf/GunBuyback_Panel.pdf
For the UK, I've only found secondary sources so far, but those say that over time crime rates dropped.
See table 1.01 www.homeoffice.gov.uk/.../hosb0212?view=Binary
@Thisperson98 The table does back up your assertion, but reducing the number of innocent people killed at random (like in Las Vegas), as opposed to people who have managed to get someone want to murder them specifically, is still worthwhile.Suicide by firearm is also rare, because only 4% of households have a gun.
@goaded only a very small percentage of the murder rate is made up of mass shootings.
@Thisperson98 So it's not worth regulating firearms to reduce that number?
@goaded um, not really, because more people are saved by firearms than the amount of people who die from mass shootings.
@Thisperson98 I seriously doubt you have meaningful statistics to prove that.
@goaded unfortunately the statistics is very hard to get. But most experts believe guns are used over 100,000 times in self defense each year.
@Thisperson98 Used or useful?
Used as a deterrent or as a lethal weapon in self defense.
@Thisperson98 "more people are saved by firearms than the amount of people who die from mass shootings"There's also the deaths and injuries from accidental/negligent discharges (505 in 2013), and reduced numbers of suicides because of the thought and planning that needs to go into most other methods.
@goaded most experts believe the use of firearms in self defense is above 100,000 per year.
@Thisperson98 I'm sure you have a list of these "experts"? A scientifically valid study of any kind?You're saying one in 3400 people in the US (which would be, what, 1 in 2500 adults) use firearms in self-defence each year? Would it have been necessary if the bad guys didn't have guns too? Over 40% of robbers used a firearm (and I'm sure I had a statistic about how many guns were stolen in robberies from people who were, by definition, armed, istr 8000 coming up).ucr.fbi.gov/.../robberyHundreds of thousands of firearms are stolen:http://i.imgur.com/HsBMx5b.pngA few decades ago people took your stereo from your car, now they take your guns...www.theguardian.com/.../gun-theft-us-firearm-survey
@Thisperson98 But were the guns actually needed?
@goaded the range of firearm usage for self defense is anywhere between 100,000 times up to 2 million times a year.
And yes, the guns were needed for the victim to defend themselves most of the time.
@Thisperson98 "the range of firearm usage for self defense is anywhere between 100,000 times up to 2 million times a year."I'm pretty sure those numbers are some of the 89% of statistics that are made up on the spot, and I'm very sure that countries with strong regulation don't have nearly so many problems.
@goaded depending where you get your statistics for self defense usage, you will get different numbers. The 100k are from liberal sources and the 2 million is from conservative sources. That why I gave you a range.
@Thisperson98 How about you give us the sources, instead?
@goaded here is some of the estimates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
Hey strawman, what is Norway then? Anders still holds a record and he did it in a country with strict gun laws.
I live in Sweden and yeah i know but we dont have mass shootings once a month/week
If you had a population of over 300 million you would. Also you have no go zones all over Malmo where you have stabbings every day.
Thanks to the idiots who decided we shouldn't have any borders and let in 300k+ people
Same reason America has gun violence problems, otherwise they would be better off than Switzerland.
America has borders
So does the EU.
Same borders like the US.