that is very different-not all Christians are Christians -they mere piggyback on the name. there are many different organizations that call themselves ''Christian''
@Sabretooth and not all muslims are muslims.. its religion we are talking about.. its 2017 .. most of us know its all bs.. people think it defies us in a society but it does not, we're all mearly humans.. doesn't matter which god u choose to belive in, you're ither a dick or a decent human being.. religion won't change much in this case.. human behavior goes waaaaaay beyond just religon.. but statistically speaking christianity has hundreds of milions more kills than islam..
true christianity or false christianity?
I'll assume you live in the USA so let me tell you a little about "false christianity" .. Every single time you celebrate Halloween you break the first commandment.. Meaning according to the all mighty because of it you shall burn in hell.. I could go on for hours how there isn't a single "true" christian but this is a complete waste of time..
@Sabretooth Same goes for Thanksgiving, and some "hardcore" christian priests will even tell you that if you listen to techno you shall also burn in hell.. On a side note hell didn't always exist.. At first it was called sheol, the good and the bad went there but it didn't quite fit the "true christian" agenda so it was added on loooong after "the death of christ" ..
like i said before-not all practice true Christianity-but masquerade behind the name for their own selfish or hateful desires
bible doesn't teach about hell
@Sabretooth "not all" would be 99,999% of christians.. I know hell isn't in the bible, it was created arround the year 400 .. Also if you think earth isn't flat you also aren't a "true christian" xD..
bible says the earth is a round shape
@Sabretooth That is what the church used to teach untill about five centuries ago.. AKA the authority on Christianity..
getting back to the main point... Christianity is by far more evil than Islam..
and we can get back to them "true" christians right after you find a single person that has never broken any of the commandments.. which you won't..
who says churches know anything? as i said-not all ''Christian'' organizations are Christian
i never said anything about perfection
The subordination of women wasn't in the original text, it was interpreted into it by subsequent additions to the literature. It's more of a cultural issue than a religious one.But yes, you're right, most people have interpretations of their religion that fit with social change. Barely anyone completely follows any religious texts.
@Felicia5567 Could you cite an original copy of the text to prove that? Is there any solid evidence to back that up? From my knowledge, this claim seems unlikely, but if I'm wrong then I will gladly accept any solid evidence that proves otherwise as it only adds to my knowledge.
Agree with you.
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Let me question that for a second How do you know terrorist don't represent Islam? Who says? Another human... humans can't judge only God can Maybe they are correct and you are wrong... with religion, it's all interpretation and no one can say one is more right than the other... because we all perceive words and meaning differently... Immams are just people doing the same thing, so they can't speak for God either even if they say this or that is wrong This argument is invalid... unfortunately
@TripleAce I'm not @Schrodingerscat but I've your answers. Following are verses form Quran. let be no compulsion in religion." Quran (2:256)“Now, whoever so wills may believe and whoever so wills may deny.” (18:29) "Say: O you that reject faith! I do not worship that which you worship, nor will you worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which you have been won't to worship, nor will you worship that which I worship. To you be your Way (or religion) and to me mine." (Quran 109:1-6)
@Politicial_dude explain? Lol what do you get from all that?
@TripleAce This is a part of Islam (or Quran) considering terrorist represent Islam, don't you think these verses are contrary?
@TripleAce as I said, I don't care about religions. People have twisted religious texts of all religions to their benefit. I'm just saying that terrorists not necessarily represent the Islam, not even the guy in the video.Again, I'm agnostic so at least I believe that all religions out there are quite flawed. But singling out one religion? I don't think that's fair.
What if the text is twisted from its original source. Of course lol its been centuries. To believe this is the original text is quite sillyThe reason one is singled out more than others is because have you ever heard of a japanese religious killer? Lol and if so how many?
@TripleAce Actually Islam has used the EXACT same original Arabic that the texts were written in, albeit written after Muhammad's death. The Arabic used in the Quran is archaic and nothing like the Arabic spoken today.The trick is though, that Arabic doesn't fully write out words; short vowels are excluded. Therefore one spelling can have several different meanings. An example of this in effect is there is a verse that mentions Allah "rolled out the world like a carpet", and once the Arabs figured out the world was actually round it caused some word shuffling and semantic-play and the word for "carpet" became the word for "ostrich egg". I think it's like "Duhiyya" vs. "Duhayyu" or something, but I'm a little rusty on my Quranic Arabic.
@WhistleForTheChoir what I'm saying is... take a story and pass it around 100 people... it's bound to Change Here we are talking about 1500 years lol...That shit has changed all kinds from it's original text... so has the bible and all other religious texts lolL so we aren't even following the truth to be honest We just think we are
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Everytime, it is never about Religion It is always about people.
Stop smoking crack kido.
You read the Qur'an and Hadith yet you didn't learn how to spell 'Islam'?
@CubsterShura he's a clear case of a mentally ill retard. dont waste your time on him. Poor kid is retarded.
and by the way, i can come here and try to make islam a beautiful religion, whenever the hell i want to, and there's nothing you can do about it. if you have a problem with that, then go cry to your maama and suck my balls
@decentguy yeah I know it but even a 5-year-old can spell Islam better than him smh. At least I can expect him to be able to SPELL properly?
Guys... this is exactly what 'they' wanted... for you all to hate each other because of some fake version of a religion. The truth is Pakistan and Bangladesh were Indian/Hindus... just because history worked in a way that Muslims settled there doesn't make you bound to a religion. Same with catholic... the spaniards brought Roman Catholic to Latin America... you easily could of been born Muslim if history played out that way lol... so guys remember you are what you because you choose to submit to your current surroundings...the further you go back to the truth (the birth of man kind) the less division exists! Once upon a time religion didn't even exist!
@TripleAce You're wrong. Bengali people were Buddhists before until Hindus and Islam grew simultaneously.
@CubsterShura exactly. So you're roots are then Buddhism Not Islam Islam is just what is there today...That further proves what I'm saying... you aren't bound to what you are born into... you are actually Buddhist. Just you have no choice to follow Islam because you are born in a Islamic family
@TripleAce Actually Buddhist? What? I'm actually Muslim. Lol.
@CubsterShura Nope lol your roots are buddishm not muslim lol because bangalis were originally buddhist but unfourtunately they didn't get to keep it. If they kept their original religion. You'd be Buddhist today 😛
@TripleAce Westerners weren't Christians or Jews. Arabs were actually mostly Christians and Jews in past. And what existed in Bengal before Buddhism, do you know?I forgot its name but previously Bengalis worshipped nature. And Buddhism didn't even origin from Bengal it originated from northern India (not east).So no. Cultures and religions do evolve. And I am Muslim and actually Muslim. Doesn't matter if even my parents aren't Muslim. If I've accepted Islam, then I am Muslim. That being said Bengali people were Buddhist over 800 years ago lol. My family is Muslim for quite a few centuries (if we didn't then we would have a non-Muslim family title. We don't) so that's enough for me to be actually Muslim by your standard.Hold on, humans are actually apes.
@CubsterShura exactly lolThat is exactly what im sayingYou could of been buddhist. A christian could of been muslim. A buddhist could of been catholicYou aren't born with this identity like your heart or brain. Maybe in the next 1000 years buddihsm will go back to bangali and all the people there will go back to buddihsm lol --> the moral of the story is that religion is just a social construct, it seems, given to you by your surroundings. There is no need to get defensive about someone saying something bad about islam or christianity or whatever else because you could of been anyone of those lolDepending on how history played outNo one knows you are muslim just by looking at your biological identity. No one knows he is christian by looking at his biological identity We have to be told what you are
@TripleAce You know that people convert their religions, right?
@CubsterShura yes lol don't worry i believe you are muslim and choose it. Not saying yoh didn't. You're a great galBut yes people convert given a choice for various reasons. Usually for marriage and other stuff. But its a small small amount. Most people are just by default whatever they are born into and feel loyal to that one
Well, not the "only" exception. Some other exceptions might be acceptance of homosexuality or scientific theories like evolution, although in Western countries, Muslim opinion pretty much lines up with the mainstream, more so than Christianity does even.
Actually, I would argue that the fact that they follow that religion, and their faith has led them to that point, does in fact say a lot about the religion, just like if their faith instead caused them all to spread love and peace and be very anti-war. In fact, I would even be willing to bet that if that was what they did instead, people would be singing a very different tune, saying that they do in fact represent the religion despite still being extremists, just with a different goal than the ones of today.
Westboro Baptists are ludicrous examples to use for terrorists who blow up children. As for the rest, can you give the dates of these crimes against humanity? I'll give you a hint, the Salem Witch Trials were the most recent and they happen approximately 300 years ago. Allah Akbar sounded recently, today, over the bodies of dead children. The same 300 years that passed for Christians also passed for Muslims, what's the difference?
Okay, what are you trying to say? My point was only that every religion has extremists whom have dome terrible things.
Point is the difference is night and day. When a nutjob can vaporize a city for the glory of god, you have to take those villains and others like them very seriously. It's not just burning one old woman for an imagined slight, it's millions of innocent people being incinerated. The west has grown up to understand these things, the adherents of Islam have not.
9/11 was an inside job. The evidence is overwhelming.
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Ah, pagans: child-sacrificing druids and Aztecs, blood-thirsty Norse vikings, hundreds of revered Gods of War, the Roman Empire's brutality. Truly these are the peaceful religions!
@WhistleForTheChoir In comparison to the bloody path of the Muslim horde, yup.
Islam us a peaceful religion. . . . . piece of you here. . . . piece of you there
Lmao thank you for the peace 😂😂😂
Bin Laden wasn't even religious.
He was the leader of an Islamic terror group
That doesn't make him religious. He used to practice many forbidden things in Islam.
A lot of people do forbidden things in their religion.
True. We all more or less of do them sometimes even without knowing it.But he did them consciously. He did them despite knowing. Okay, even besides doing them, he was INTO them.
They say Islam is peace and its extremist that's are non Muslims yeah extremist in Egypt, Indonesia, and other Muslim countries are the ones shouting death to Isreal death to USA
@AlphaStyles shit be crazy
Islam has extremist views like just go to Muslim country and commit s crime and see what's up they will fuck you up till you end up in coma
I also have friend who is Muslim but Islam on it's own is the problem this people love violence
*terrorist sorry i write turkish
Other religions do not have hit squads and perform be headings on TV. I don't know of any other faith that encourages gassing villages and suicide bombers. No Islam is not like other religions.
@readywriter During the Crusades, Pope Innocent III gave the following order: "Kill them all. God will recognize His own." So yes, other religions do it too.
yes the Islamist should have learned better.
Well, "suicide bombing" was practiced by the Japanese in WWII, secularists and Marxists in the Palestinian conflict, and Hindus in the Sri Lanka conflict. The British, French, Germans, and Americans all used gas in WWI. The British used it on civilians in Iraq. And the U. S. dropped not one but nuclear bombs on Japan.Violence is a defect in human nature, not in one particular human religion.
@Robbey In the pursuance of a declared and justified war against a warring nation in accordance to the articles of war internationally accepted yes, people die. To target specifically the weak or unarmed. Those unable to defend themselves and pat yourself on the back for doing "god's work" is the highest form of villainy. If you want to defend blowing up children and hospitals just to get air time on the local news station, you have a problem.
@Charleslvajr Targeting of civilians is most definitely not internationally accepted. It seems to me that issue here is a case of "Our violence is justifiable but their violence isn't" despite the fact that end result is fundamentally the same. That's a double standard which is hardly morally sustainable. Again, violence is a defect in human nature, not in one particular human religion.
@Robbey Violence is endemic to human nature. Always has been, always will be. How you manifest that violence and it's purpose is what I look at. And the justifiable nature of the violence can be summed up with an unbiased look at middle eastern culture as it stands now.