If it has nothing to do with their religion why do we not have the same problem with immigrants from other religions?
@englisc What immigrants from other religions?Most of the wars are in Islamic countries at the moment.There are Islamists who will take advantage of people in those situations; I expect there were Catholics doing the same in Northern Ireland a few decades ago. We should be concetrating on taking away their sources of desparate, foolish young men, not demonising their religion, creating more of them.
If calling Islam a crappy religion creates "more of them" then that only proves his point.
@Gray-Wisp No, like torturing and imprisoning innocent suspects worked to recruit for the IRA, demonising Islam will do the same for ISIS. We've been here before, don't make the same mistakes!
Ok you guys do you but if there is a suspected terrorist that is not American and they are imprisoned and tortured (water boarded) in an effort to keep my country safe it is justified. Muslim or not. If the small handful of people this happens to causes muslims to become more radical then I stand by it proving the point that they were barbaric in the first place.I'm pro-life for example and we've had over 58 million murders in the U. S. from abortion but you don't see me bombing an abortion clinic. Yes, it has happened. Yes, sometimes they're Christians. Are pro-life people going to go out in droves to plant bombs even though the killing continues? No, you don't see it happening because we're marginally civilized like MOST religions. My point is that you don't see ANY religion (except Islam) causing an 9/11 incident, Orlando shooting, throwing acid in peoples faces, running people over, (France/UK), all while having actual rape culture (Sweden/Germany) on a regular basis.
yeah your right, a religion based on a prophet who was a raping, pillaging warlord that once conquered much of Europe is totally not the problem. Yeah, the religion that says to cut off a woman's clitoris is totally not a problem. You are so right dude how did i not see it before?
@Gray-Wisp So you don't think America has to respect the law? That's something for the world to look up to.Considering there are 1800 million Muslims worldwide and maybe 3% of that number "pro-life" Americans, there seems to have been plenty of violence, and support for it, especally as it's not murder and the "victims" aren't being tortured or blown up.en.wikipedia.org/.../Anti-abortion_violencewww.patheos.com/.../Both of these things could be mitigated by actually paying attention to what has been shown to work elsewhere in the past, but ignoring evidence is what you do best.
Of course America has to respect the law, American law. I said "you don't see me bombing an abortion clinic. Yes, it has happened. Yes, sometimes they're Christians. Are pro-life people going to go out in droves to plant bombs even though the killing continues? No, you don't see it happening because we're marginally civilized like MOST religions."If you take the time to actually read this list from Wikipedia you see that only 11 people were killed for being linked to abortion in the U. S. While 49 people died in the Orlando night club and 2.977 from 9/11. Let's do some basic math. 1600 million Muslims.187 million Americans that wish stricter abortion laws.8.5 : 1 ratio. (Rounding)2,977 died in 9/11 alone.11 died in total in the U. S from radical pro-lifers.270 : 1 ratio. (Rounding)
Even if you disagree with those numbers and go out there and try to find the most muslim-friendly numbers from a credible source I don't believe ANY modification will make that 270 : 1 & 8.5 : 1 ratio actually come close as I only counted 9/11. I also find it odd how on Wikipedia that the pro-life incidents all fit onto one page and the islamic terror attacks each have their own articles grouped together by country because there's just been so many of them.We're talking about several hundred million pro-life people living in countries where abortion happens daily versus hundreds of millions of muslims living in their "perfect" backwards sharia law societies that they like. If you were to take them out of what they like and put them in a first world country you'd end up with Europe's current crisis. Bombs, shootings, rape, and so on. When anyone else in an environment they don't like, hardly anyone dies. Muslims become radical at incredibly vast rates. This is my point.
@Gray-Wisp American law says it is illegal to torture. No ifs, ands or buts.
Somewhere in American law it's ilegal for Americans to be experimented on using chemical, radiation or biological means yet that has happened and no prosecutions were made.
As I said I believe we should follow American laws and I also think we should allow water boarding. I even voted for someone who supports water boarding. There isn't a whole lot more I can do about it but I hope it gets changed.Water boarding is common knowledge but I haven't heard of the U. S. currently experimenting with biological/chemical weapons. That's a new one to me.
So? This is Sweden we are talking about. I dont understand how these two things are in any way shape or form related to eachother.
@Soteris rape is out of control in Sweden
@Soteris you idiot i was talking about the muslims in the middle east
Muslims in Sweden come from the middle East hence Sweden's rape epidemic
And you didn't attempt to help her? Some soldier you are.
There is rape culture in the military too
@ZeussLightningBolt Nope i was busy hiding in a truck trying not to be seen in enemy territory, Thanks for the input
@ZeussLightningBolt funny thing about sneaking into enemy territory to light up some terrorists it requires you to not blow your cover for a civilian no matter what, not only will that risk your life but everyone else with you as well
In that case, you should've closed your eyes or turned away. But you watched. You probably jacked off to it. Sick fuck.
@ZeussLightningBolt Actually no, Closing my eyes would make me a traitor to the states, I was to keep watching no matter what, If someone were to have approached us from the left it was my job to signal the team for possible combat,
@OkennyO@AskerCan you two decide amongst yourself which direction you want to take this argument and come back to me later?
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I'm not American. America is an imperialist nation that bombs the shit out of the middle East and then accuses other countries of racism for not wanting to take in the refugees they've created. Go wash the blood off your hands and stuff your fat American face with McDonald's.
have you talked to petersweden? Visit his twitter, lots of verifiable links to this VERY REAL problem
@Greatcat : men feel entitled. Muslim men feel chosen. Nuff said.
@Greatcat petersweden? 30 seconds of searching, and I find this:theredelephants.com/.../Calling Hope not Hate a "spy group" (how does he describe Project Veritas, I wonder), it comes to this:"Sweden said that... Morgan Finnsio, is a member of the Bonnier elite Jewish family who owns 80% of the mainstream media."I think he can safely be ignored as a liar and a fantasist.
@goaded just because a person is wrong about one thing or is being smeared by the mainstream lying media does not mean they are wrong about everything. Go to his twitter and he tweets news as it happens providing links as he does so. Sweden is the rape capital of the world.
@Greatcat It's not just being wrong about something, it's about believing obvious nonsense. I'd feel the same about anyone pushing pizzagate.www.mediamatters.org/.../219064
@goaded are you implying that pizzagate isn't real? I've literally seen the leaked emails...'should we play dominoes on pizza or pasta?'yeah, that's totally not code... anyone who's been on 4chan for 5 minutes knows what these terms mean
Because Swedish women are liars and they wanted to be gang raped by Muslim men?
Sounds very implausible to me but whatever.
Sounds like something a Muslim would say
I assume that it's similar to the situation here in Britain. There's a very real problem especially with Muslims targeting young girls. New cases all the time keep popping up all over the place where in each city it's found that thousands of young girls have been raped and pimped out by Muslim gangs. The leftists ignore ir or downplay it, just as Soteris is doing here.
@englisc It is not that I am ignoring anything. There is obviously a lot of crime happening but what you are doing is deceptive in that you are not presenting a fair representation of reality. It is very easy to present any number of cases for your argument since its hardly a rare occurrence in a country of millions but you can also do that for the completely opposite argument as well. Your whole argument is null and void because it lacks any meaningful evidence what so ever.
I feel the same way. Most of the ones migrating to. the West are garbage
Exactly we should be killing them in the street and burning down mosques
You made a fake account. Reported.
Made a fake account? i just join like 2 days ago. just because i'm new here doesn't mean i'm a fake account. Just because you don't like my answer you dont have to go and accuse me of having a fake account so GTFO.
I agree. Muslims should be isolated for the hate they reinforce.
Wrong them and all others even Europeans everyone who has hate in them
Yes like in Palestine with the walls
No the whole world needs to be cleansed of hate in everyway
Agreed we need to peace bomb the middle East
If they want Islamaphobia to. go away, they need to stop raping women and children.
Yes and demons will fuck them with dicks from fire in hell too.
It's obviously the most restrictive living religious practice.