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Right because I really give a shit about some 19 year old college bimbo talking about her college major and acheiving world peace she won't life a finger to actually create.
@ronaldo75 lol, good comment
Looks obviously don't matter in a beauty contest *rolls eyes*
@Caaarl they do, but they limit beauty.
Lol it is proved again that we are soul sisters 😎 agreed totally 😇
I’m not saying if you’re covered up you’re not beautiful. All women are beautiful in some way or another. Not saying fat is ugly but I am saying it’s not as beautiful if you don’t take care of your body. Beauty is about taking care of yourself in all ways. If I offended you please just move on and ignore, this place is for opinions and this one is mine.
A cam girl that has a problem with objectification...
@grega239 exactly... The world needs to sleep for a while, it's drunk as fuck.
@grega239 Good day to you too, they're beauty queens not whores, they can be judged on their looks without being half naked, why exactly are you crying? Needed something to jack off to? huh? wife not doing it to you.
Do you know what a contradiction is? For example: beauty queens show of their bodies to be judged and admired. cam girls show of their bodies to be judged and admired. both have CHOSEN to be objectified by others. no thanks i dont jack off to stupid.
@grega239 Not at all, men will always try to make their case where it's beneficial to them, I'm glad the bikini competition is scrapped.
What about female body builders or supermodels, music videos, movies, porn. you come across as some1 who would enjoy living in saudi arabia
@grega239 ugh, I didn't say women shouldn't enjoy being free to wear what they like or express their sexuality. Please, people demonize attractive people every chance they get, why are you all so sad you won't get to see them half naked anymore? Maybe when they start covering their attractive selves, you'll appreciate them more. A sex worker, model, beauty queen, video vixen and body builders aren't the same thing. Want sex?, go watch porn, visit whore houses and buy escorts.
I dont watch beauty contests or tv for that matter. ok what would women want to be appreciated for? if u have any other talents and skills, by all means , impress me.
"women no longer being objectified."If we didn't "objectify" each other our species will cease to exist. You're not a feminist yet spewing feminist BS.
@Oram52 Choke on your dick and go away already, I'm done talking.
I have never been in a beauty pageant and I have no desire to be but I do believe a lot of girls do them for scholarships and to earn money. If they can because of physical attractiveness more power to them. There is nothing wrong with a girl trying to go to school or get a little financial head start in life by doing a beauty pageant.
I think there are guys like me who voted B just because I appreciate the women's efforts to be in a shape and be able to flaunt it confidently. It is one of the qualities a Miss World must have. I can always watch naked women on PornHub.
no worries, that's what instagrams for
I don't want to say you're dumb buuuuuuuuut you really think these women have 0 pictures on the internet of themselves in bikinis?
Guys just are chauvinist perverts
@StrappingYoung I'd assume they won't be easily accessible because these women were ordinary women before they entered the contest. So I'd say it's probable that their social media accounts were private, like most girls' are.
Oh please, don't act like women don't like seeing half-naked dudes. Women are all the time gushing over shirtless Hemsworth or any of those other pretty boy celebrities. Have you forgotten about veritable outrage when People's magazine named that Blake Shelton guy "Sexiest Man Alive" rather than someone like Jason Momoa? I don't even give a shit about those stupid swimsuit competitions, never even watched one. My point is, don't act like men are the only perverts.
@YourFutureEx @YourFutureEx I don't think one has to wear skimpy clothes to get appriciation for their efforts to stay in shape. I work on myself too and if I reach my goals, I'd doubt I'd show it off because it goes against my values. And that's the point. Many women told organizers that they are interested in joining but weren't comfortable with this round. That is one of the many reasons they stopped it
@ryancg lmao calm your tits. Did I say women are not perverts? Did I say it is wrong to look at naked girls?
There's difference between personal goals and a competition. You can take the bodybuilding competitions as an example. I don't think an average person wants to look as jacked as they do but it's the "requirement" of the competition. Same goes for this. It's a requirement for the competition to be "confident" enough to walk in biking. It requires guts. By doing things like this. You are just making a safe space for the incompetent ones.
lmao, my tits are perfectly calm. I just wanted to ensure that if men were being bashed on, that women get the equal amount of bashing. Equal opportunity bashing, you know?
@YourFutureEx but all I'm saying is that some women may refuse to expose themselves like that. They don't necessarily equate wearing bikini and walking in it with guts. And they wanted a chance in it.Those who are incompetent (like out of shape) would not get through in first place.
@ryancg the question about female beauty pageants and most triggered n hateful comments on this thread are from men.
Yeah, but there's also plenty of women commenting about being objectified. Men get objectified just as much.
I wasn't talking about physical incompetence. I was talking about mental Incompetence. The might to walk in a bikini reflects your "confidence" which is a major criteria for selecting the winner.
@YourFutureEx as I said, many people feel that it is not necessary to equate confidence with walking in bikini. There are infinite ways of showing off confidence
@ryancg men get objectified, tell me about how it is compatible to the amount women do? And the way women do? I don't want to make this a competition between men and women- but you should understand that this kind of objectification is bad for anyone. Men too, yeah. So you should not support these kind of competitions.
I hope the same applied to mathematics too. I am good at maths but I suck at trigonometry. I hope the world understood that I'm good enough. Oh well, nevermind.
@YourFutureEx of course they'd understand. In fact they do understand. Because there's a lot more Math than that where you don't even need trigonometry as much.
@whyisitso I don't support it, in fact, I said I don't give a shit about these sorts of competitions. I'm simply saying that "sexy" men get objectified in much the same ways as "sexy" women do, and I already gave an example in a previous comment about the pretty boy celebrities and that stupid People's magazine outrage. Do I support anyone being objectified? No, of course not, but I'm also not going to pretend like it's purely a female problem.
@ryancg Hemsworth is a celebrity who is going to be objectified because of the fact that he has fans. But it is not like people treat him bad. Men don't get harassed like women do. Well, sometimes they actually do. But you can't compare a competition like this to actors who are being hot. There are female actors getting objectified all the time too. But they are appreciated for other reasons too. But glad that you don't support those competitions😊
@whyisitso If we're talking just objectification, it is about equal. Sexual harassment, on the other hand, is another thing entirely that goes far beyond objectification.
@ryancg yeah, but it is too a cause of objectification. Those things go a little hand in hand, ya know?
@whyisitso That is kind of what I meant, is that it's objectification to the extreme.
@Schrodingerscat All it takes is one guy to get on their social media and spread their pictures to the rest of the internet. There are websites for private social media images after all.
So why do they actually need to know how they look naked? What makes that seem relevant? If their bodies look good it shows even with tight clothing.
@whyisitso and if they have a nice body that they're proud of, why not show it off?
@justacatlady- so you are saying that you ARE a raging feminist, but it has nothing to do with your beliefs that are those of a raging feminist?
@jimmijo1954 No I just think if the show is for entertainment purposes, what is entertaining about people walking across a stage in clothes and then answering questions? If it were more like a sport, I think it would be more entertaining.
There are various parts each part is an opportunity to score points, total points are determined and the highest score “wins” each contestant competes with other contestants- how could it be more Ike a “sport”?
It don’t matter I’m just saying... lol
I think I'll opt for euthanasia when everything we do has to improve the world.
How can you say that not everyone is equal?
What is the point of that here?
@naga1406 not everyone is equal. And I'm sure that's the reason that the swimsuit competition was taken away.. it's based on looks and the not good looking (good body , whatever) aren't going to even qualify. So just get rid of it , that's bullshit tho
@naga1406 Because not everybody is equal man.If you had to choose between saving Hitler or saving Mother Theresa it's obvious who you would choose.You vote for one politician over the other because you believe one is better.You see a licensed doctor instead of some schmuck.Yeah, some people are better than others, especially at a certain ability.I don't think Kayne West is a better human being than I am, but a better singer? Absolutely.It's okay to acknowledge differences. Trying to act like we're all equal is honestly childish. You can treat people with dignity and give them equal protection under the law while acknowleding that they're different.
I think it's because it's politically correct to judge based on achievement, but not looks. To judge a girl by their looks now a days is seen as like treating them like the feminist buzzword "object."
Except those women chose to be there.
@ThisDudeHere yeah, but the rest of us don't really wanna be objectified
And how exactly is a bunch of hot women walking down an aisle in bikinis objectifying you behind your computer/phone screen?
@ThisDudeHere Maybe because I am a woman, and I look about the same, not as tall though. We get objectified too much and it shouldn't be couraged and justified in a competition like that. I don't feel like it is at all good to do those shows and to score people by how their body looks. That's just shallow and makes guys think it is fine to go and objectify girls on the beach with their bikini. You should be ashamed to question this.
But by inhibiting on their ability to compete in those competitions, you are in fact oppressing them. What if they want to compete?You should think twice by questioning this as well.
Its called nature if we didn't "objectify" each other our species will cease to exist. Not to mention its their body their choice.
@ThisDudeHere well, not every choice you make is only affecting yourself.
@Oram52 i think people should learn to appreciate humanity on the inside and not just on the outside if that is the case.
Even if a choice affects me its not my business to tell someone to stop doing it. That's what individualism is. Everyone has the right to do whatever they want to as long as they don't infringe on someone else's freedom.That's the thing we're not drawn to humanity inside first, but what's outside. Its INNATE, we have no choice over it. If we weren't looking for a relationship just sex, what is it we are drawn to?
@Oram52 have you seen me ending that competition? I just think it is a good thing.And after all I would be really glad if smoking would be illegal/ended completely too. But I don't go saying that people can't smoke. Smoking however affects everyones health. Even the passive smokers. I have a health condition that makes me really sensitive about it. Yeah, so one can still be against things that are someone else's choices. They affect us but we can't do much about it as individuals. Don't you see what I mean?
I understand. But like I said attraction is INNATE, we don't consciously choose it. We have to objectify each other, if we find someone physically attractive we objectified them. Its natural. There a line between wanting something to stop and making it stop. That's a slippery slope.
Here's a simple solution - if not models competing with one another bothers you, you could just not watch them, instead of barring them from competing. I don't like pop music at all but I don't complain about it- I just don't listen to it or ignore it when it's in the air.