Yeah. andd the mass grooming (rape ) of underage girls
Well thats why I mentioned the Rotherham scandal as an example of that!
They won't last long in the uk as they are all going to be deported wait and see its coming very soon as they will be made stateless and signed by royal ascent that means the uk queen look it up on the internet not long to go before they are put out of the uk
@laughinglad999 That is utterly ridiculous.
@goaded l dont think so as its going to be writing into uk law
@laughinglad999 Which law? What's it called?There was one proposed that affects people who went overseas to fight for ISIS, iirc, but that wouldn't include a few idiots in London.
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Im only linking it because i see the growing problem with no go zones in places like sweden britain and germany which even anhela merkel said existed it isn't some far right conspiracy
@up_64 Could you point to thr location of any of these no go zones in either Sweden, Britain or Germany? You can send me a google maps location of that's easier.
1. What @Cammy137 said. I'd be willing to visit any of them in the UK or Germany (Sweden would have to be a holiday) as long as you would visit any location I gave you in Spain.2. If it were an growing problem, wouldn't you expect, over time, more reports, not fewer?
Justice did its job on these idiots.
Tabloids wrote about "no go zones" in my city too.I went there. Notthing to see, just some shops with Arab names. Plain bull manure.
My city is mentioned there, so are three cities I know well. Bull manure.
@jacquesvol now try visiting with a girl in a miniskirt and see what happens
I went there.
Dood you're not a girl
I have eyes, experience and I speak the languages there.
Yeah man, 100% utter nonsense. My girlfriend and I went to several of those exact locations in the Netherlands and Belgium last summer and I stayed in a hotel just outside one of the Paris ones for work. These are utter nonsense, brother.You're also changing your tune. Are these "no-go" areas or are they areas that women in mini skirts get harassed in? Those seem like very different things.
I just spent 5 hours in a no-go zone in Germany, and I didn't even notice!That map is utter made-up rubbish.
Not really just wanted to see peoples thoughts
I didn't see the video but in the end we all have to accept others and live in harmony
@AbdKilani That's true, but it isn't self-evident to make Quran based laws in Europe.
It is not a Muslim country, so there is no need to make it a law.Even in Muslim countries like Jordan they don't follow it
@AbdKilani I don't know about it exactly, but I think it's only for Muslims.
You see, Islam isn't limited for Muslims or Arabs, nor for an Era of time.That's what you have to know,
They have... many times over.
They have? I must've missed that part in all my history classes in AP History in HS and Honors History in uni... 🤔Care to enlighten me with your perspective?
We have the Moors in the 8th-10th century, the Muslim conquest of Persia in the 7th century, the Ottoman empire in the 14th and 15th centuries, this is all just from the wikipedia article. Do some research, government schools and neon-haired professors won't teach you everything.
Didn't mean to come across disrespectfully, I'm just a little shocked that none of those classes even touched the subject. What are they teaching kids?
Yes, what ARE they teaching you kids, indeed? 🤔The Moors didn't try to take over the world... They conquered a jumbled bunch of city-states fraught with corruption and infighting in what was to later become Spain. Ironically, their downfall was due to the same problems. And they lasted until the late 15th century... Or were you referring to the misnomer of the ARABS in the Holy Land? They fought a purely defensive war against the Crusaders and the invading Europeans. Not conquerors, but defenders. The Muslims didn't set out to conquer Persia, either, but to retake what was captured previously by the Greeks under Alexander the Great. Or did you forget that part?The Ottoman Empire actually lasted until the early 20th century however they never actually tried to conquer the world they simply marched back against Europe. Recall the Crusades prior to that measure.
Not one of those examples you cited was any of the Islamic World actually trying to conquer the rest of the world... simply bits and pieces instead. However, I will give you that under Mehmet (was it IV? I honestly don't recall which) of the Ottoman Empire, there was some blood fever, when he invaded Europe as far as Austria... but that was one ruler, one instance, and not the religion as a whole, or as any sort of mandate or Manifest Destiny.
I was under the assumption we were talking about Muslim conquests of Europe. The world, that's a different story.Need I remind you that the Crusades were a retaliation against an attempted Muslim invasion of Europe?
Right, enjoy your trucks of peace, acid of peace, peaceful rapping, and stabbings of peace. Some of us in the civilized world aren't as much a fan of foreign invaders. Ehh, some people have to be r type rather than K.
Yes sir, we were supposedly talking about world conquest, as I stated in my original opinion. But I now see your points, as well. A matter of "missed communication."😋Now about your last assertion "that the Crusades were a retaliation against an attempted Muslim invasion of Europe"? How is that even possible? The Crusades began in earnest with the invasion of 1098 (1099 by some scholars). What was the so-called Muslim encroachment into Europe at that time? The Pope issued a Bull declaring that (and I'm paraphrasing here), "We must wrest the Holy Land from the hands of the Infidels." (Yes, he used that word - it's a wholly Latin word in origin, meaning any not of the Catholic faith)The soldiers of Christ marched in the Christians who held the majority in Jerusalem at that time, indiscriminately killing women and children along with Christians, Jews, and Muslims. So who started it? 🤔
1. Christians were not being allowed to enter the Holy Land on pilgrimages. This was seen as an attack on their religion.2. Christians were being persecuted for their faith.3. The Muslim Seljuq turks invaded the Christian Byzantine empire in 1068, this was seen as aggression coming from the Muslim states. Note that this invasion began 28 years before the first crusade took place in 1096. The fighting continued for 260 years. If thats not Muslim aggression, i don't know what is.
3. The Seljuks we re-invading after being expelled. That's not aggression, that's defense. 2. Yes, Christians WERE being persecuted... First by Romans, then by OTHER CHRISTIANS. No Muslim leader in that time took issue with Christianity or local Christians, least of Salah-Al-Deen.1. If Christians weren't being allowed to enter, then how TF did all those European Christians get there to be later massacred by Crusaders? Over 1000 of the nearly 3000 residents who were slaughtered were Christian in the first Crusader invasion of Jerusalem. 0. Christians had been making pilgrimages to the Holy Land for about 200 years by the time the Knights Templar were formed to help ensure their safety along the road from Antioch to Jerusalem from thieves and cutthroats (not Muslims). Jerusalem was and has been a holy place of pilgrimage for Christians, Jews, AND Muslims for 1400 years now.
They never had the brains to do that and still dont it was the europeans that took over the world thank god for that
YOUmean the last 1100 years not 1400 years
Muslims can't fight they all run away they are soft as mud and very weak and thin
And why did the muslims not help save some of the christians as they are so two faced even at that time the same as they are now they want it all there own way
When the Muslims finally did defeat the Crusaders, they opened up Jerusalem for ALL - Christians, Muslims, AND Jews. No white Europeans have done such as yet... 🤨And no, I said what I meant... 1400 years, because that's the time since the Qur'an was revealed and Islam became a recognized religion.
@thatdavd you neeed excuses for the west invading and destroying Iraq and Libya after waging an unwarranted war against Afghanistan.
it was after this event that the Church in Europe had declared a crusade to the Holy Land and the expulsion of Muslims. en.wikipedia.org/.../Destruction_of_the_Church_of_the_Holy_Sepulchre_1009Unprovoked my ass. How could you not be pissed if someone was doing this to your own religion. Besides, the crusades had the end goal of taking back Jerusalem which was controlled by Christians long before the Muslims attacked them and took control. In a sense, they are taking back what was originally theirs.
Your worldview is unfortunately skewed. I cannot help you. You need to step outside of your confirmation bias.
Im tired of saying i linked a second video from cnn if you dont trust RT
We're told not to trust CNN.
Sharia Law should never be tolerated in any civilized country.
Weve got good reason not to trust the clinton news network
As the GRU now understand...
@goaded Dont start your shit with the uk as we will not put up with it the uk has run the world for more than 300 years any one want to start there shit in the uk bring it on we are ready and waiting for you if you want to be shot it will be your own blame if you think we are a soft touch you better have another think we are nice but we are real bastards when we start so back of before you get burnet and in the uk we are trained to shoot to kill?
What are you talking about?I was talking about the police identifying the agents who poisoned people in Salsbury.
@goaded Sorry l can't talk on that point?
Sure its run the world for 300 years. but so did spain and look whats left
So true not much
Sharia has no business anywhere in britain is my point
Arbitration is also accepted from Roman Catholicism, from Judaism.That doesn't mean non believers have to follow Roman Catholic or Judaic rules and teachings.
Im fine as long as it can be overuled by courts
It CAN be overruled by courts, like any other arrbitrage, religious or not.
it never will be in the uk
It might if we dont stop muslim inmigration
There isn't that much new immigration in the UK
Yes only a 100.000 last year most on benifits
@laughinglad999 numbers from Pluto or from Uranus?
Your choice thats the real numbers
@laughinglad999 numbers advanced by the EDL or by Robinson?
They are nothing to do with me and what are your numbers if it is not 100 .000
@up_64 you seem to hate Muslims.
@laughinglad999 do you have a source that isn't a tabloid?
You have to understand that l can't say to much l should not even be talking about this stuff on this site plus l hate no muslims the word hate is a very strong word just lets leave it that have a nice day
WHAT DO YOU THINK ( LAUGHINGLAD999) STANDS FOR READ INTO IT I HAVE TO GO GOOD BYE
I hate islam
Obviously there's good muslim. but i think if you're going to a place you should abide by there legal AND cultural norms. you know "when in rome do as the romans do"
Very true but they dont act like that as they want to take over there will soon be civil war on the streets of Europe
There's freedom of religion, but you have to follow the law, which they didn't. They can leave if they want to, once they're out of prison.
@goaded i agree with that.
@goaded They are going to be deported they have no choice weather they want to leave or not
@laughinglad999 They're not going to be deported, they're British.
@goaded You are wrong l can be made stateless and then be removed from the uk its called royal ascent singed by the queen its been worked on right now look it up on the internet
@laughinglad999 You might like to look up some definitions (for the UK): "Royal assent is the final step required for a parliamentary bill to become law.", "The last bill that was refused assent by the sovereign (on the advice of ministers) was the Scottish Militia Bill during Queen Anne's reign in 1708."However, according to this report www.theguardian.com/.../stripping-criminals-uk-citizenship-racisrt-sex-abusers-terrorists-two-classes-citizens about 37 people have been stripped of their British Citizenship, 2000-2016. That's only about 2 a year, but it's still not right.
They weren't tolerated, they were imprisoned.
Yeah but according to the coran its ok to kill a woman for being raped
you're free to try and change my mind
Thank you. That shows how much you know. Thank you again.
pls show me how im wrong instead of just saying im ignorant
@up_64 please cite the passage? The burden of proof is on you, as you're the one making the claim.And by the way, there's no such thing as "coran"; it's properly spelled "Qur'an" (or you can omit the apostrophe).
Ok thanks. i seemed to have gottej it a bit muddled up. it says that sex slaves are allowed.(wgich is rape) not to punish the raped. but that is still saying that it tolerate sex slaves
Quotes :Quran (4:24)
Stoning of Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow - ...https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Stoni...
That's in the Bible too.
@jacquesvol Agreed.I am not as scholarly as most of others :) hence I will explain in my own loose way.Islam believes in all books that came from God. However, God kept giving new commandments and guidelines as society progressed. So unless there was a clear redaction of a previous commandment, rules given to prior people remain. Some punishments in Islam are actually taken from the Old Testament.
Perhaps our friend @RockStarBob can elaborate more as I'm sure he is more eloquent and knowledgeable than me. So is my friend @jacquesvol.
@RockStarBob the woman is killed for not yelling hard enoughwww.biblegateway.com/.../
I linked a cnn video in update
I do not believe that sharia law applies in Europe or that there are Sharia Zones in Europe or that Europe is at risk of being conquered or that sharia law should apply wherever muslim's live. It is not a meaningful question.
There you go