Imagine for example if we decided as a nation we were going to tackle a single problem we all know needs solving. That everyone left and right of the aisle agreed on, as well as the plan to fix it. That the media got behind and was promoting to the nation. That industries across all relevant businesses believed in the plan and pitched in to help. With workers at these businesses believing in the goal and the plan. EVERYONE working together to get it done. What could be possible?In my book, I think we could truly tackle any given issue we choose if we had that level of focus of cooperative effort.
Thanks for the MHO even though I butchered the explanation XD
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@OlderAndWiser honestly I have no idea if it was real or not but maybe no one talked because the government might kill them if they did? I mean this was a huge deal not saying it was fake but if it was they wanted people to think it happened so they would think nothing of taking someone out.
@MAlNEVENTMAFIA Many of the people involved have died. One of hem could have left a confession to be published after their death. And what about China and the USSR?
UN could've been in on it I mean this not related to the moon landing but I saw Obama's kill list and he had a 16 yr old on it so I mean our government would probably take out anybody who was any sort of a threat to their agendas but just like a lot of other things up for debate there is no way to know if the moon landing actually happened or not. All any of us can do is speculate.
I do think we landed on the moon, but this is a stupid take. People are actually capable of keeping their mouths shut and not outing a conspiracy they were a part of. No one saying they faked it is meaningless, and even if anyone involved said it was fake they would just have their reputation destroyed anyway. No one would believe them.
@MAlNEVENTMAFIA try keeping a New England working class factory worker who made parts for the rockets quiet about something like that in a bar
So why many people says it was a cover up and it never actually happen and it was done in a Howllywood set or something
jitty71: Because many people just have to have a conspiracy, or multiple conspiracies, for whatever reason. Among the reasons can be to have something special to talk about, and to be special in "knowing the truth about..." I have also worked in psychiatry, and I have seen many people who are delusional. I don't think for a moment, that most delusional people are on psych units.
By far the best answer.
Why many people say it never happened and it was all a hoax or the landing was made in some US desert? One of the evidences people who say it did not happen is the flag. They say a flag was moving in the moon and that is impossible as the moon does not have atmosphere or like 1% of it probably.This is what I found"Our Moon doesn't have an atmosphere because it is too small and doesn't have a strong magnetic field. Any atmosphere it might have had would be stripped away by the solar wind that barrages the small world. In contrast, our planet has more mass to hold its atmosphere close, and a strong magnetic field to protect it"
Like I said... with a REALLY good telescope, you can find the locations they landed. The reflectors they left behind are testimony to where they were. Hollywood couldn't have scripted this, if they tried.
and what about the flag moving?
Solar heating and cooling. The flag is supported by a metal frame. It gets heated sitting in the sun and that frame changes shape slightly as it heats and cools, giving the idea the wind is blowing. BUT, the fact the flags are there, AND can be seen via telescope proves someone was there to plant them.
Why do you associate creationism with flat earthers? They’re two entirely separate things. Yes there are creationists who believe in a flat earth, but I’ve also met flat earthers that are atheists.
@Wharvey98 I don't know, it just felt right to put stupid with stupid.
I’ll never understand why people feel the need to say intentionally inflammatory things like this. There was no need or reason to insult anyone here. And nothing to be gained by doing it, so why did you feel it was appropriate do so?
@Wharvey98 are you inflamed by the truth? Do you need a fucking safe space snowflake? The earth isn't flat and evolution is real, people who reject what they should've learned in elementary school for no reason that they can demonstrate are stupid. Facts dont care about your feelings.
I just feel the need to say, I believe in evolution, and I also think the world is round. But, shocker I’m actually a Christian as well. Ya see, Christianity and evolution are not mutually exclusive. There’s no reason we couldn’t have been created through evolution. And yes I was offended by what you were saying, but I fully believe you had the right to say it. I’m just wondering why you felt the need to. You seem to be very angry, and I’m not really sure why. I’m sorry if something I said set you off but I don’t really know what it could be. Just because people believe something different from you doesn’t mean their stupid. If that was all it took to qualify as stupid then everyone would be on that list. However I can see this isn’t a good subject to speak with you about so I’ll move on to something else. One piece of advice though. If your this angry over something so trivial it likely speaks of a deeper issue, and I’d suggest you look into that. It’s not healthy to be so angry all the time. God Bless.😁
@Wharvey98 i think your mistake is thinking im intentionally insulting by calling them stupid. When someone is racist you dont tiptoe around that fact and try to spare their feelings, you state the fact and if they get triggered thats on them. When people are stupid, I'll call them stupid and they get insulted by it then good maybe they'll take it as a sign that they should rethink some things. Calling out bullshit hurts the feelings of the believers in said bullshit, but the hurting of feelings is the byproduct, not the intention. Also im used to trolls and people who like to lie so thanks for not being like them.
Wether intentionally insulting or not, it’s not a great way to convince others. I’m guessing you know that though and just don’t care. Intentionally provoking hostility only causes issues for everyone involved. Now as I said before this doesn’t seem to be a great topic to discuss with you, and this conversation really doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. So I think I’m done. Once again, best wishes and God bless.
The issue is two fold, first the moon is pretty uninteresting scientifically speaking to keep returning to, second, rovers and probes are much cheaper and have been sent all over the moon, mars and elsewhere... it costs a lot more to send a craft that has to support life and return to earth.
The exact way they measured the distance...
The flag waving is actually the flag on a rod holding it up and vibrating when put into the moons surface. See my post for why it happened as a whole.
Just saw the footage, it’s diffusing live on Youtube right now, and you can indeed see the rod keeping the flag high.Since I’ve never given it much thought, I didn’t even think about their solution. All I knew was that the flag was waving in no atmosphere, but it didn’t interest me enough to think about it and make some research.
They can see the sites from a 2009 Satellite sent to the moon’s orbit. m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=QkaNqud_VxU
"poor explanation of the famous picture where there's a moving flag" LMAO at your stupidity.
The flag was on a horizontal rod holding out like normal on earth. They brought the rod with them and it is clearly seen in the pictures. The movement was the astronauts hands in the staff and the vibration from having the staff plunged into the surface of the moon to hold it upright.
Your evidence is overwhelming.
@JenSCDC Thank you.
It's just as strong as your ability to detect sarcasm.
@JenSCDC Oh I can detect sarcasm, as well as I can detect fake female profiles and trolls ;)
SMH, you make me sad 😞 given your age and your denial but yes the government lies... just not about this.
no y’all are just brain washed
Yeah, and the New World Order is spraying chemtrails all over the flat Earth.
What did those astronauts said back then?
Go watch yourself. It was weird.
send me a link to that interview
Search for "Apollo 11 press conference" on YouTube.
i watch it at home is too long
ok then tell me what you think after you watch.
What dod you expect? They were on the friggin' moon, then weeks of quarantine and the same questions all over again. They were obviously fed up. But I guess that never crossed your mind...But they left quite a few mirrors on the sirface of the moon, which were used to make laser measurements of the earth-moon distance. And those mirrors are still there...
@s2firestar Are you addressing to me or to the other lady who replied me?
The opinion owner.
@s2firestar i thought it was me
First off I am not sayng I know one way or the other but I have seen a lot of stuff about space not even being real even in songs they give little clues like Red Hot Chili Peppers say space may be the final frontier but it's make in a Hollywood basement.
Yeah. You don't know shit. You base theories on songs?So. If space is not real, tell me, how does satellite TV work? How is it that even in my jet's service ceiling, the sky is not blue any more, and you can start seeing the curvature of the earth on the horizon?And where the sam hell are the people on the International space station? You do know that the ISS is visible to the naked eye, yes? And you can also use a small telescope to see it up close?The sheer stupidity of this generation is what will doom humanity.
@s2firestar No I don't base any theory on a song I base it on a number of things one of which being an astronaut saying we can't go back to the moon because that technology is destroyed now. Lol they can make cars drive themselves but can't replicate a technology that was used decades ago? Come on now lies.
Who the hell said that? XDThey don't go to the moon because it's a useless feat (unlike in the cold war).Also, there is no fully safe way to do it (it wasn't safe back then either, but beating the soviets was worth more than a few lives).
@s2firestar skinny guy with glasses he also talked like footage from space looks so good that it looks like they made it on earth like fucking with us
You do realise that optics were good back then as well? Also, space is empty. It is much easier to make good photos, there is NO air to cause anomalies.Learn physics before hopping on board with conspiracy theories.
@s2firestar Don Pettit said it it is on Youtube
i believe the earth is flat...
@mixedforever29 why do you believe that? there isn't much in nature that is flat... are other planets flat? Is the moon flat in your perception? We believe what we perceive, which goes through our mind filters. you are seeing things diff than I am... it's just perspective differences. But I highly suspect it's a ball which means round to me.
just because one planet is round? all planets have to b round? that’s like me saying since one white cop is racist all of them are racist ! makes no since
but everyone has their own opinion @lightbublb27
@mixedforever29 valid point of assumption. I'm just looking out at design of things. Most things follow similar patterns. e. g. a human kinda looks like such and such... humans are not flat, thus I assume your neighbor is not flat either. He could be, but unlikely. It makes more sense it is round than it is flat. there is also no motive for anyone to discover it is flat and lie about it. There are pictures of it from space, etc.. Diff minds work differently for example, some people don't know north and south... they think north is straight up (to the moon), some people don't do time well, etc.. But there is some reference point to what is correct.But different brains perceive things differently and we latch onto these beliefs and don't want to change. that's how our minds work and that is general. Examining the emotions is what reveals the hidden beliefs and often, in many cases, those beliefs are not valid or were once valid and no longer are.
Why you say that?
Yep, sad isn’t it...
@Jersey2 yep, and a little frightening.