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Some don’t care about annhilation. Remember they blow themselves and their children up all the time
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But him blowing up embassies is ok?
Answer the question, if you can, please. Was Suleimani blowing up embassies legal as fuck? Are we really supposed to tolerate terrorists doing whatever they want and sit around with our thumbs up our asses because an effective response might be illegal? Who made up that rule?
I know this is a difficult concept but you cannot break the law to catch lawbreakers.We did not have Iraq's permission to bomb one of their airports to catch an Iranian terrorist. Pretty sure we're harboring a few guys other countries consider criminals, it's totally ok if they just fly a drone in and drop a bomb on them right?
What Trump did was an act of war. Not against Iran but IRAQ.
And blowing up embassies isn’t illegal or an act of war?
1. "I know this is a difficult concept but. . ." Very condescending, since you know NOTHING about my intelligence or experience with world matters.2. Do you understand that terrorists such as Iran rely on people like you who insist upon following the Marquess of Queensberry rules. Would you prefer to die following the "rules" or live to see another day? Would you offer the same "dignified" but limited protection to your wife or daughters if they were being attacked?
@OlderAndWiser 1. I was calling you stupid because you're saying stupid things.2. Terrorists are playing by the same rules we are. Fuck the law. We kill who we want, where we want, when we want. Performing a terrorist act to kill a terrorist is hypocrisy and if you don't see that you're telling me PLENTY about your intelligence. You don't get to ignore the law when it becomes inconvenient for you."Would you offer the same "dignified" but limited protection to your wife or daughters if they were being attacked?"That is a stupid argument. Of course I'm going to try to stop a crime against my family IN PROGRESS. What I'm NOT going to do is hunt the attacker down if he escapes into somebody house and perform a fucking DRIVE-BY.
Calling me "stupid" is a very poor strategy for persuasion " and if you don't see that you're telling me PLENTY about your intelligence."
@OlderAndWiser Quit saying stupid things than.
and I know I'm not going to persuade you of anything.
Actually, you have persuaded me to believe that you are seriously lacking in any social awareness and you have persuaded me to say goodbye.
@OlderAndWiser Whatever you need to tell yourself ya fascism-advocating boomer.
And then you’ll have the Saudis building nukes to protect themselves against the Iranian threat. Then perhaps the Turkish will build nukes to protect themselves against the threat of both. Then Israel will build even more nukes to protect them against all. Then potentially even Egypt could want to start building nukes.And suddenly you have a nuclear arms race in perhaps the most volatile region in the world
What threat is that?
There will never be such a thing as a nuclear arms face because it does not take many nukes to annihilate a country. Only a certain number is needed for mutually assured destruction, which should make it so leaders think twice about invading other nations.
The threat being an American invasion, obviously. The never ending American invasions under whatever pretext they choose. Whatever country the USA touches leads to death and destruction.
Has that ever happened?
It actually takes quite a lot of nukes to annihilate a country. Especially if you want enough nukes to annihilate multiple countries, so that the deterrent is credible
Sure it did. I'll name you a few. Invasion of Russian Empire during the civil war (1918-20)(The Korean War 1950-53)The Vietnam War (1955-75)Invasion of Bosnia-Herzegovina (1992-95)These are just a few I've handpicked and exclude the hundreds of assassinations and coup d'états they've made in order to establish their empire. Interesting fact about the Korean war is that every city and village was leveled and 20% of the population was killed. That's 1/5 people dead. A genocide.
And no, it only takes enough nukes to level the most important cities of a country in order to cripple it economically and industrially. There's no need to bomb every square meter of it.
Have fun living in fear from us. Look at West Germany, Italy, Japan after our “takeover” we’re not your enemy
Oh sure you don’t need to cripple every place.But Iran is really really large, you’re gonna need enough nukes to even wipe out Tehran. Plus, you want more nukes to deal with multiple nations at once, you’re gonna want some expendability, you’re also gonna need to take in accounts some file, and nukes specially for targeting launch systems of others.Even if nations only create 100 nukes that’d stilly imply a far, far more dangerous Middle East
@tartaarsaus do you want Iran with nukes or not? Be prepared for your answer. Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it
It wouldn't be dangerous because of the entire reason nukes exist to begin with. Mutually assured destruction. "You destroy me, I destroy you, so let's not be hostile" is the entire idea behind it, which has worked for every nation involved with it, except, unsurprisingly, for the USA. And you'd be surprised at how many people hate the USA. It doesn't matter if they present themselves as a force of good, actions speak louder than words, and millions of deaths from their wars is a strong reminder of what the USA really is.
@reptocarl I already commented@Peuples_FrancesThat holds in countries with stable governments. Not countries that like to have revolutions and radical leaders every few decades.It also doesn’t help that insurgents like to pop up in Middle Eastern nations very often.As for MAD not working for the US. Has the US already invaded North Korea or not?
No. You may hit a couple of places but a pissant place like Iran we could make it uninhabitable for hundreds of years
People come and go, but national interests stay. Whether a nation's government is a monarchy or radical islamists, anybody with half a brain cell knows the dangers of nuclear bombs and will not act in any way that warrants nuclear warfare. It's true that the Middle East is unstable , and what nation, pray tell, is the reason for that?As for the usage of Nuclear Bombs, the Americans used it on the Japanse, and I would not be surprised if they ignored the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction too, given their horrid history of warfare.
National interest stay huh? Tell that to the Japs. It only took two weak nukes to stop that belief didn’t it?
Civilians are the national interest, if that wasn't clear. That goes for any nation.
Ok keep believing that. We have no problem nuking you to submission just like we did the japs. The thing you’re not learning is we can nuke you anytime we want. You can’t us. Remember that. We go to sleep in comfort, you don’t
Truth hurts doesn’t it
It's so very American of you to resort to empty threats when you don't know what to say anymore. You sure live up to the stereotype. Cheers.
Usa bomed them first. they just returned the favor
@Nikola99 They returned the favor by sending rocket attacks at Iraq? You're not the sharpest tool are you?