Thank you 🙂
I think you nailed it. The dry goods are easier to store and last a lot longer than ready to eat foods.
Thank you for MHG!
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It doesn't have B12, saturated fat, vitamin D, b vitamins, animal based iron, etc.
@Warmapplecrumble Saturated fat is unhealthy maybe you meant unsaturated fat? The nut butters have plenty.As for iron I have been a vegetarian my entire life I have never had animal based iron. It’s never been a problem my red cells are always in proper number and healthy. As for B 12. I have always taken supplements though normally I get it through nutritional yeast and Spirulina , which I eat daily. As well, if I had nothing else to say I’d still be fine on the vegan ensure bc it has the daily requirements for basic dietary needs including your concerns~ iron unsaturated fat B 12 .. iron from from animal source is not necessary. I’m not sure why you think that is a problem. 🤔 People all around the world including myself , do just fine without meat. 😊😊
(If I had nothing else to eat* Not nothing else to say )
You need saturated fat to absorb vitamins such as vitamin d3, vitamin K2, vitamin a (not retinol). Saturated fat also creates our hormones. Well artificial B12 is not absorbed by everyone. Your stores will run out eventually. It takes maybe 6 years maximum. A lot of protein is also missing. Heme iron is necessary for humans. We cannot process it as efficiently from plants. Plants have certain oxylates etc that block the absorption. I've been there done your thing. And got a stroke. Just warning. It'll just hit you one day. All those greens are very bad for kidney stones as well. Especially spinach and kale.
All what greens exactly? I only listed spirulina of which I use as a supplement. I do normally have salad but I never listed that and I don’t know what you mean by “too much” without providing reference. My b 12 has been in perfect level my entire life. It’s been tested for the fact I’m a vegetarian.As has my iron levels as I did mention. I don’t know what your Diet was, or why you had a stroke. I’m sorry you had a stroke. I mean this nicely. I’m not saying this with hostility 😊 I think it is impossible for you or anyone to say I’m having too Little or too much of anything without knowing my actual day to day intake, which I did not list. I listed only what I have stored. I can assure, I’m very careful about what I eat as well as my nutritional status. I get regular blood work done to make sure everything is in check as well. I have been doing this over a decade. I suppose what is good nutrition for one person is bad for someone else. The only problems I have ever had with food are from dairy which is why I became vegan. And eggs meat or fish I would not even try. Obviously it will make me ill ( it did as a kid) as I’m not used to it. But I find it nauseating, so there is no incentive there. When you had a stroke were the able to link it to anything specific? Maybe you have food allergies?
Also I want to say I can totally understand you wanting to say something bc you exierience day problems. It’s a kind gesture. Also I didn’t mean everyone should stock up similarly... I was answering the question based on myself not as an advisory. 😊
Alright 🙂 well always make sure you have regular checkups. Because I don't think anyone should experience that.Also spirulina has side effects, these nutritional supplements have side effects. Research a lot before buying.
They have vegan ensure?
@Warmapplecrumble Thank you for your concern, I have been eating spirulina and yeast for a decade, to fill in potential nutritional deficiency incurred from loss of any animal product in my diet... I was never a meat eater, but until age ten I did have dairy. It was making me sick, so I stopped. My current diet has kept my blood work completely stable for a decade since I became Vegan. I get blood work done Quarterly. 😊
@Lightning8 Yes it’s so good lolBut I don’t know which places sell it. I can ask if you want. 😊
Here is another thing. Must get rid of cellphone. To stop tracking. At least pull the battery. Get CB and Ham radios. Un-traceable form of communication
I agree. None of this is found in our shops
@Warmapplecrumble A basic CB radio any truck stop.Water Tank and tower. Any farm storeGuns, get one from a criminal. A legal gun gives your location and let everyone know you have one.The rest you can get from here and there
Ever heard of radio direction finding and triangulation? Quite easy to find you if you use cb or ham radio!
Lol we live in tiny apartments in the city in UK and don't have access to any of this. 😕
@juicyjessie well yes I know all about. But that takes time for people to organize. Track you.Cellphones are instant
Really depends on where you live.. Some people who live in rural areas normally have to stock up on items for a month or trip. It isn’t being greedy it’s just how they Have to do it. In normal times cutie or no. And having things delivered isn’t always a possibility or safe. People who are high risk it makes sense to stock up bc they Dk if they will be sick And won’t be woke to get out. Healthy people in cities not so much.
People who live in rural areas where shopping trips are less frequent who USUALLY stock up are not the problem at ALL as they are not exhibiting atypical hoarding behavior. And it's the atypical hoarding behavior that's taxing the grocery supply beyond what the region is able to handle. If people who have the ability to replenish regularly were behaving normally, the excess would be available for those at risk individuals who NEED to stock up.
Remember this case, case, case, cluster, boom. The boom is coming. Self isolate and flatten the curve.
I forgot to recommend ICE carbonated vitamin water. .88 a bottle at Target. Great for diabetics who should be self isolating. They can last for months at room temprature if unopened. I plan to get more next weekend.
Seeds and canned goods by the way.
Venezulea has been so much worse (than under the COVID) for years because of socialism under Maduro
Very interesting way of looking at all this.
NO.people are getting a SMALL but hardly comparable idea of what life under Sanctions and embargo is like. There is ALWAYS history of outside interference for countries that suffer economically.Do some research. It’s not hard to piece it together.
@VIVANT Hi, Are you saying that Venezuela is like that because of the outsider influences like sanctions and embargoes?
What are you on about? It’s objectively worse than SARS.
Yet research says sars killed more people. I doubt the coronavirus is worse. It's so blown up by media. You're not gonna die from it unless you're sick or old. And a lot of people aren't even aware they have the virus because it's so mild for them. I bet I've had a worse cold this winter than the virus is to someone who's healthy otherwise.
It spreads faster than SARS and it has only just begun. You can’t compare a number of something that has run its course with something in beginning stages. And it’s spreading fast bc people are being given idiotic info. Even If it is _mild_ for one person they can still spread it around. It is highly communicable; the symptoms Are unclear eap early on and mimic a common cold before it gets worse; ; you are contagious long after you feel better; You know, “older people and sick people” are _people_ Many people are repeating This “ it only affects those people” When a person says “ it only affects “these people”, they sound like you think it’s ok to kill people. Like psychologically they’d be ok picking people in a line up. Or that they can’t intellectually compute “other people“ are human beings. This mind set does fit with the general attitude towards war and poverty racism bigotry etc by many ~though not all ~people who don’t have to deal with it directly. So it isn’t surprising exactly, but it’s crazy and dangerous all the same. It does sound really dumb to say something isn’t a big deal bc it only affects like 30% of the worlds Population badly. That’s a tremendous amount of people. And the more people who get it the more other people get it. It is expected to impact 70% of worlds population bc it speeds quick there is no immunity and most countries are not prepared to deal with it efficiently. Anyhow the people most likely to fall ill from covid are between 20 and 40 years old and they Dk how bad it can get yet. ESP the more reckless people are the more hospitals get over worked and health care workers fall ill themselves.
@Sainukon "Yet research says sars killed more people."Which SARS are you talking about? Even Corvid-19 is technically a SARS virus too.Let's say whatever you're talking about is true, okay so... why does that matter? Wouldn't we want to stop anything even remotely close to it from happening again? How about we just do what we can to fight the dangerous things in front of us even if they're less dangerous than some other things?"You're not gonna die from it unless you're sick or old."Wow, so fkn what?Firstly, young and healthy people have died, so it's not like you're immune.Secondly, I've got a ton of relatives in the high risk group. There are hundreds of millions of people in that group. We're suppose to not care? Why? Because they're *just* old people? WTFThirdly, okay fine, you can be a sociopath, but even if you don't get infected it still effects you specifically if that's what's important here. What happens when you're in a totally-not-virus related car crash but all the hospitals are at 200% capacity? All the medical professionals are sick or busy, uh oh, fuck me, no treatment.And if you *really* need it to effect you directly, we're just now finding out that non-lethal cases are still at risk of *permanent* lung damage. Why be cavalier and take even small risks of permanent lung damage or death?How about let's just not be psychos and cooperate, hmm? We help each other, ride this out, slow the infection rate, and if you're right and it's not that bad in the end, then I'm totally fine with you gloating in my face about it. But until then, it's absolutely obnoxious to treat it like it's nothing.@VIVANT A voice of sanity, thank fuck!
@Sainukon You ain't seen nothing yet!! Death toll rising by the minute, wordwide!
@VIVANT Well said!
The point is people should stop freaking out... freaking out makes things worse. I don't care how fkn dangerous something is. If we want people that are sensitive to the virus to survive we should at least stop taking away the things they might need more than we do. Let an old person stock up instead. The rest can wipe their arses with a towel for all I care.
People obviously miss-fucking-judged my comment. I want people that are in the risk zone to get all the benefits instead of you idiots out there that keep making things worse. The point I was trying to make was. You healthy young people out there that are freaking out should calm down because you are bot the ones that people should worry about
@Sainukon Practice what you preach and calm down!
I am calm, I just think it's stupid that people seem to believe I wish for people to die just because I said we don't have to panic. Spreading panic won't solve a thing. Can't believe you guys seriously get so hurt about all this. I have a lot of people I care about that I seriously don't want to get in contact with this virus and I won't go around selfishly panic. I care more about them than I care about myself. I don't even know if I am consider healthy enough to survive the virus myself and yet I still stay calm (I haven't checked if I have the same issues my parents have). That's all I'm trying to tell people. And yet I get people after me for saying this. I live with doctors. They are saying the exact same things I'm saying and they meet people everyday who are sick and dying.
@Sainukon You are being passionate and I respect that, but you're still freaking out over a usual flu season. That is your choice and mine is type again to calm down.
What? I'm not the one freaking out... I was telling people to calm down because they are freaking out. Have you read the previous messages? People got mad because I told them the corona virus isn't a danger to most.
@Sainukon I have read every post. I know you liked my OP 16 days ago. I still think you are freaking out. Passion is a wonderful thing, and I miss having that. Please don't buy into the bullshit. Do me a favor and think about it. Mull it over.
If you've read everything then I seriously have no idea why you're pointing at me and telling me I'mfreaking out. Seriously dude. I was very obviously trying to defend your opinion and yet now you're saying I'm the one freaking out. We're. On. The. Same. Side
@Sainukon Because you're the strong one! I've learned you can take it and still give it!
Imagine if it had a death rate of 90 percent
Excellent, Harry :P
On a serious note, this is ridiculous and you all need to leave the shops full for the elderly, disabled, ill, etc. 🙏
Well I agree Harry. But in UK they have isolated the elderly and putting us in prison if we have virus and letting prisoners out.