You've opened my eyes to a whole new world of racing.
@AaronKrieger My pleasure!
That was way more exciting than I anticipated!
Ikr. He's a pretty good commentator.I want the red seal.
You be careful, Lliam. 56% of Californians estimated to get it? Holy shit.
I think this is being overblown for some reason. COVID-19 another variation of MERS and SARS. We didn't shut down the country over those and they didn't wind up spelling the end of humanity, either. It's like the flu. Most people will get over it on their own and a small percentage of people with already compromised immune systems will get hit hard.I understand the caution only because our medical system is woefully unprepared for anything beyond the average number illnesses. It could become overwhelmed and that could lead to deaths because of lack of available care. That's because we have a profit driven system that continually cuts costs to maximize profits. It's like a levee system that is built without consideration for the possibility of a 100 year flood.I wonder how many people will go bankrupt, become homeless or even commit suicide when their lives unravel due to loss of income. Millions of people live on a shoestring as it is.
Some health care systems have a little more slack the others but really all that lets you do is wait a week longer before slapping quarantines in. Sars actually had a higher fatality rate but much less contagious. We also caught it and contained it basically, with covid 19 we didn’t.
@0112358. But how did we contain SARS? I barely remember it. It as like a non-event. We didn't shut down the country. We didn't make half of the citizens unemployed. Out of all the people who have contracted COVID-19, there is about a 4% mortality rate. Very few develop serious symptoms. And if one looks at the demographics, the vast majority of those who have dies averaged 80 years old and had multiple other serious conditions that lowered their ability to fight it. Isn't that about the same as the way flu works?
Flu has like a 0.1% fatality rate plus we have vaccines and our immune system is somewhat used to it. So more people will get it then the flu if nothing is done, and then something like 40 times as many die. Sars got jumped on really fast. Think of where we were weeks ago where every person who had coronavirus was tracked and those they contacted quarantined. Total SARS cases outside China+Hong Kong+Taiwan was only like 700. China did have some closures etc. The rest of us managed to nip it in the bud. That wasn’t done this time.
@0112358. "40 times as many will die" sounds like hype.
Let me be clear: that won’t happen in the developed world because we will use lockdowns of whatever strength necessary to prevent it from happening. But would we see something like 1-2% of the total population die otherwise? Looks like it. Unfortunately as it begins to hit much poorer countries we will see. But If you look at the spread outside China on an exponential graph it’s a dead frigging line. Exponential growth till you hit herd immunity unless you severely restrict transmission. This thing has a very nasty mix of being contagious, notable death rate, fast, and enough asymptomatic cases to spread it. Something like Ebola is “too lethal” which is why it doesn’t spread as far.
@0112358 Good points. I learned a few things, thanks.
Alarmingly it also appears you do not necessarily develop immunity by exposure as they are now see people who have tested negative now testing positive again.
Oh no.And what about false positives on tests? I have heard they are not 100% accurate (but what is their failure rate?) Imagine them giving people a false sense of security, and proceeding with that.
@AmandaYVR, good point. And is there a suggestion that EVERYONE get tested? THAT'S a slippery slope. The idea is more terrifying than getting a bad case of the disease. What's next, mandatory RFID chips "for our own safety"?I don't trust the government and think it's motives have little if anything to do with people's best interests. I wouldn't call myself an "anti-vaxer" but I feel the same way about for-profit pharmaceutical companies and people like Bill Gates as I do about the government. I'd rather take my chances with freedom than to be treated like a factory farm animal. People are not government property.
I think we are gonna see massive amounts of testing coming - it’s sort of the only way to exit lockdown pre-vaccine.
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This is why I love living in small college towns very little pollution and the sounds of cows breaking through the wind is oddly relaxing