Masks either work or they don’t. Conservatives are having this identity crisis with masks and so of course Covid is spiking in conservative crowds.
No, it isn't
That is a worthy SO!
True! The NSA must be going nuts.
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How do you tell the difference? I listen to actual medical experts, who say wearing a mask in public is why Europe is kicking our ass.
Europe is not kicking our ass. When you add up all of Europe's Countries, you finally get to a similar population as the US. If you look at each Country individually, they have far less people and do FAR less testing than we do. No one in the world does as much testing as the US, so naturally our numbers are higher. The death count is inflated because pneumonia, influenza, and heart disease patients (among others that make even less sense) who either tested positive for covid or were presumed to have it get marked down as a covid death ifthey die for any reason, including "old age" which isn't something that gets put on death certificates. This explains why we saw a spike in covid deaths in March, because the new code U07.1 was implemented, and thats the one that lumps untested patients together with positively confirmed ones. My sources of information include the CDC website and Coronavirus Response Coordinator Dr Debrah Birch, before you go accusing me of believing news sources that you disagree with.
You and Trump have this mind block about Covid cases. It’s about percentages and how applying scientific methods to Covid actually decrease the numbers.
Did you just ignore everything I told you?
No. But you and Trump are peddling this “no testing, no cases” bullshit. From a percentage per population we can see which countries are doing better with Covid. And the US is no one of them.
Aside from the tyrannical mask mandate and the daily lies from the media, would you have noticed a deadly virus pandemic this year?
Yes, I’d notice 170,000 deaths that outside the norm.
No it isn't. At all. Over 2 million people died last year in America how many of them did you notice? Probably just what CNN showed you. Had covid-19 never been uttered by anyone, you'd have people dying of Pneumonia instead of Pneumonia and Covid. Heart Disease instead of Heart Disease and covid. Influenza instead of Influenza and covid. Were this the Spanish flu, you'd see dead people in the streets, sickly people everywhere, devastation in the homeless population. So tell me, aside from the MSM and the tyrannical mask mandate, WHAT would have been your clue that there is a deadly virus pandemic?
(sigh) 170,000 deaths are outside the norm here in the US. Because last year we didn't have covid. You can't be this moronic.
So last year less than 170,000 people died?
No moron. There are the usual dead people and now we have a pandemic. You can't be this stupid.
No bitch. We have people dying of all the normal causes and being marked as covid deaths because they either tested positive for it using their shitty test methods that throw false positives left and right or the doctor "presumed" they have it, which they have monetary incentive to do. You should look up "conflict of interest" and see how many of them are involved with the pandemic - not that I think you have the mental capacity to do so
Please provide proof of that outrageous claim.
I would but this thread doesn't allow me to share screenshots, or I'd show you one from the CDC website. Here's a copy and paste at least. "COVID-19 deaths are identified using a new ICD–10 code. When COVID-19 is reported as a cause of death – or when it is listed as a “probable” or “presumed” cause — the death is coded as U07.1. This can include cases with or without laboratory confirmation."
Did you delete my response? "COVID-19 deaths are identified using a new ICD–10 code. When COVID-19 is reported as a cause of death – or when it is listed as a “probable” or “presumed” cause — the death is coded as U07.1. This can include cases with or without laboratory confirmation." - CDC website. I would share a SS but I can't in this thread
No, I can’t delete. Just block, which I never do. Can you send a link to the CDC?
Or they should get a colostomy bag.
No. There are some people with respiratory issue where masking puts their health at greater risk. Not all people can safely wear masks. Deal with that and accept that!Plus, there are some that will never wear them.
You act like 100% of people can wear them safely without it affecting them. You don't take people's health into consideration. You only care that all people do the same thing without realizing all can't safely do it. That's why there are exemption cards. Babies also would be risking health and so would people with severe breathing health problems.
No. It is proven that it is not recommended for all people. People under 2 can choke and people with PTSD can trigger more health issues. If anybody can wear them, no doctor would exempt them.You don't take respiratory problems seriously.You don't cuss at me. Understand?
So anytime science makes a mistake it disproves itself? Then stop using cellphones.
It didn't make a mistake. There's nothing new learned from mask technology from March till now. How about YOU stay in your house until you feel safe and leave normal people alone.
Just don’t be surprised when you’re put in jail for endangering the public. This pandemic is costing the billionaires money and they will do anything to stop it.
Lol, I'm protesting BLM so I can't be arrested. So you and the other doomers can piss off.
Welp here's the science. Asymptomatic people have a near 0% chance of spreading the virus. So wearing a mask if you're not having symptoms is stupid and ineffective. https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671
Did you notice where that research came from?Perhaps a conservative media source will help you:www.wsj.com/.../face-masks-really-do-matter-the-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298
Can you dispute the findings from the study reported by the Annals of Internal Medicine? If not, you're nothing but a science denier.
I can’t dispute it. All I can do is point to the hundreds of other researchers that says the opposite. Consensus is the only thing that matters in science.
Science disproves itself. You said so yourself.
No I said scientists make mistakes. And competing research can occur, and that’s when you go to what’s consensus.
Nothing is consensus when it first challenges the status quo. You must not know how science works. Not surprising since you’re a doomer.
Sorry, can’t say something is true until it has consensus.
So if a consensus is reached through bad data - what then?
Consensus means majority of scientists have verified the data. Moron,
So when Neil Ferguson from the Imperial College of London based the mortality rate and infection rate of covid-19 based on data from ONLY 6 flights out of Wuhan which triggered a global-wide lockdown, was that good science or bad science? When 2 dozen or so medical studies and research conclude that masks are ineffective? That sounds like a consensus to me.
Giving this comment a bump so dipshit has another oppurtunity to answer your point or ignore it like the tool that he is
I’m just tired of people distrusting science when it suits their political agendas and then turn around and benefit from the fruits of it, like cell phones.