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I asked this question on abortion. But I also stated that I wasn't a vegan, didn't even like vegans, and was not heavily emotionally invested in abortion, as well. I asked it as emotionally unattached as can be, because it just seems like flawed logic, to me.
Most responses I got to it, did not and could not, explain why being Pro-Life to humans was okay, but Pro-Death to animals was not.
Most of the responses were basically "Humans are superior" and "might is right."
A few shifted focus to explain that vegans often being liberal and pro-choice were hypocritical as well (which I don't deny or dispute, but that's not what the question was about).
A few gave stupid religious reasons not worth taking seriously, like "God put animals on Earth for us to eat."
And only ONE person, said something, that while it didn't explain how it's not hypocritical, at least said how both pro-life and pro-choice people's priorities were messed up. He got Most Helpful Opinion on that.
Others (really, just one smart dude) said, he is pro-life, but also supports as many contraceptives to avid pregnancy, to begin with. Which is better than saying, "This woman got raped or the condom broke, now she and her child have to live a miserable experience because I'm morally self-righteous and would rather see people living in pain than avoid more humans into the world."
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I am pro-choice because the world is overpopulated and a lifetime of torture by bad parents seems worse to me than some self-righteous fart-sniffing "moral" reason to not abort a fetus, while many of these same humans will not give a damn about the life of their fellow neighbor, let alone humans suffering all over the world. A small few pointed out how these people, are indeed, not "pro-life," but rather just "anti-abortion." The distinction being, once that baby is born, their life becomes a irrelevant to the Pro-lifer as every other stranger out there they do not care about.
So what good is it being "pro life" and feigning to care so much about an unborn fetus, while also treating other living humans with such disregard and apathy? Sure, you can claim "humans are superior lifeforms" and that we're the only ones who should matter. But even the "abortion is murder" ones, who implied "humans are superior to all animals" still did not admit to caring about their fellow man.
I brought up one of the reasons why I am pro-life in that the world is bad enough and people suffer enough in the world, and that adding more unnecessary, unloved, unwanted people into the world, who are far more likely to grow up with depression, mental health issues, or become a serial killer, rap ist, or pe do phile, is a recipe for disaster. We can't even take care of our existing people, and yet, so many others think abortion is unacceptable?
Some of the respondents even implied how they are against welfare and paying higher taxes to raise these unwanted children, citing it as "[only] the father's responsibility" and that it was "irrelevant." But how?! How is an unborn fetus, that's not even a living human being yet, more important than people currently living and suffering in places like Afghanistan or most of Africa?
That argument made, was dumb as f*ck. You force a man to be father, and then would happily sit by while he and his children starve to death? When abortion could've avoided all of this suffering. No, that discussion on the post was too idiotic for me to even jump into.
So while I didn't get a proper - or rather, satisfying - response to answer why is isn't hypocritical to be Pro-Life without also being a vegan (as in, how are you "pro-life, but only to humans, and pro-murder to all things that aren't humans), I did get some interesting flawed logic and double standards from people. Which is okay, I guess... I learned something new, regardless.
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Imagine this scenario.
You don't want to eat Mexican food; you don't like Mexican food so you don't order Mexican food. Your partner already ordered it for you while they're at work, just seven minutes ago.
You can either call the restaurant and try to cancel the order, or just accept that its coming to your home soon. If you don't cancel it now though, you're going to have to pay money and spend time on something you don't want. You can cancel it now and risk nothing, except the restaurant maybe being annoyed at you. You decide to not cancel the order, though. Now the delivery guy comes, you pay a lot more money than you wanted for Mexican food (let's just say, $40 total for it all) and you gave them the last bit of cash you had on hand, and you don't really want to eat it. Assuming you do eat it, it might make you sick or ill. There's a tiny 1% chance you might even be so ill, you die from it. Sure, you could give the order away to your neighbor, but he probably doesn't want someone else's Mexican food.
The whole point is, you could've canceled the order when you had a chance to, but now you're stuck with Mexican food you don't want, and know for sure you won't just "learn to like" if you start eating it now. Just throwing it away would be a waste of time and money, as well. Maybe you can give it away to someone at work tomorrow, but the chances someone will want your Mexican food from the night before are low. Now, maybe your partner shouldn't have ordered you Mexican food without your consent, to begin with. Maybe the two of you should've talked about dinner options beforehand, without one of them just making a decision for you. But that's not where we're at, and hindsight is 20/20.
"If you would rather not have Mexican food than to just spend all your money on food you can't eat and might get sick from, why do you other just not throwing it in the trash? Sounds like you really love Mexican food, to me. Cancelling that order would've been horrific and against God's Plan."
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0 2"So what good is it being "pro life" and feigning to care so much about an unborn fetus, while also treating other living humans with such disregard and apathy?" -- Well, ultimately it could be that sexual freedom is bad for society since it leads to single parenthood -- so by blocking abortion you put more pressure on women to think more before they have sex. And to those who say that men & women should be responsible -- sure, but women are the gatekeepers who determine when they get pregnant. The birth control pill made that possible. Before that her having the self-control to limit who she had sex with did it.
And speaking of "treating other living humans with such disregard and apathy" The best cure for poverty is respecting a person enough to let them work hard and build themselves up. Liberals -- as you know -- have the idea that if they give a poor person enough money that person will rise up in social-economic status. But they've had generations to prove their theory and they failed. Apparently, giving stuff to someone lazy doesn't actually help them. And no I'm not claiming that it has anything to do with race... but there are cultures in every race that are full of lazy people & they are usually the ones looking for handouts.
"Ultimately it could be that sexual freedom is bad for society since it leads to single parenthood -- so by blocking abortion you put more pressure on women to think more before they have sex." Possible, but unlikely. You're basically asking people to be more responsible. Which, if they were, they wouldn't be having unplanned pregnancies to begin with (outside of cases like rape). A lot of responses were "what if" scenarios like this, but the flaw is putting idealised logic and rationale on an unidealized society that is, frankly, full of stupid irresponsible people. If most people were mature, rational, intelligent adults, and most of the world's problems, such as poverty, hunger, overpopulation, political corruption, human trafficking, violent crime, etc, were eliminated or at least reduced, then yeah. I could see abortion being outlawed in such a dystopia. But outlawing abortion in such a society is like pouring gasoline on a raging fire: making an already big problem far worse. And all just so some people (usually on the right) can be smug and morally righteous (as the people on the left they despise) about how someone else's parental decisions.
in such a *utopia.
Western society is like the sinking Titanic. And the vast majority of people aren't even thinking about the real work it would take to fix the ship OR to build a lifeboat.
There is a simple solution to abortion.
Women scream that only a woman should be in control of her body. That is 1005 correct.
That said. Why don't all women actually exercise control over their reproductive systems and not get pregnant if they don't want kids?
Don't get pregnant. No need for abortion. Problem solved. Everyone is happy!!!
I agree, but that would require all sex-active women (and men) to be responsible adults. And we don't live in a world where even the majority of them are. Why bring more children into a world filled with such people?